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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
I forgot to format that post and now I can't edit it ughhhhhhhhh :saddowns:

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Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Rarity posted:

Ok binus post summary:

Calls Bif scummy for no reason
Defends Toalpaz's VT claim
Defends beet but mostly to go after Bif more
Town read on Sci
Attacks Gridlocked after he had already built a little momentum
Votes HAWKE (do we call him birb?) for voting DGK

Based on this I like Toalpaz and Sci for scum and I think Grid is probably town cause the attack on him seems like an attempt to push away from Sci. (Sci did still have votes at that point, right? I could be wrong about that in which case I'm less sure on Sci)

Anyway for now ##vote Toalpaz

Hate to meta game but we were just scum together last game and it's incredibly unlikely were both scum.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Toalpaz posted:

Hate to meta game but we were just scum together last game and it's incredibly unlikely were both scum.

This is not how probability works!

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
It basically is

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Mutually exclusive probability dictates that the outcome of an event does not effect the probability of a discretely separate event

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
gently caress yeah I got a maths degree, come at me bro

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Math aside, guys we got a problem.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Yeah but like the chances of flipping heads twice in a row isn't 50% right?

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.

Toalpaz posted:

Yeah but like the chances of flipping heads twice in a row isn't 50% right?

Okay Gavin.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Toalpaz posted:

Yeah but like the chances of flipping heads twice in a row isn't 50% right?

No but once this doesn't matter once the first event has occured. Once you have observed flipping heads once, the chance of flipping heads the next time you toss a coin is still 50%

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

But what’s the good news toal?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
I think this is the first time I used my degree since I left uni 15 years ago

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


well I think Rarity's wrong about Sci anyway so the probability doesn't matter :sun:

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4

sandnavyguy posted:

Math aside, guys we got a problem.

don't fuckin elaborate or anything just leave this post here

Toalpaz posted:

Yeah but like the chances of flipping heads twice in a row isn't 50% right?

no, the chance of any given coinflip is 50% though. the past doesn't predict the future. if your only defense of not being scum buds with someone is "well we were last game" then, well, your defense is weak

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Im going to sit on it but it's a very very promising result.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Bifauxnen posted:

well I think Rarity's wrong about Sci anyway so the probability doesn't matter :sun:

Well I think your face is wrong so nyeeeeeeh

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Sorry that was rude :(

I've been drinking

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.
Pretty sure pressure was on SnG when the Grid stuff popped up.

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Epsilon Plus posted:

don't fuckin elaborate or anything just leave this post here


no, the chance of any given coinflip is 50% though. the past doesn't predict the future. if your only defense of not being scum buds with someone is "well we were last game" then, well, your defense is weak

I’m going to I didn’t wanna interrupt if toal was gonna put something out there, but since we’re just arguing probability theory, the scum team has a kill that can. Pass jail. Cause I jailed Hum

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.

Toalpaz posted:

Yeah but like the chances of flipping heads twice in a row isn't 50% right?

The chances of a coin flipping heads twice in a row is different than the chances of a coin flipping heads after previously flipping heads.

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

sandnavyguy posted:

I’m going to I didn’t wanna interrupt if toal was gonna put something out there, but since we’re just arguing probability theory, the scum team has a kill that can. Pass jail. Cause I jailed Hum

drat mobile phone, I meant I hailed Hum but he died anyway. That’s bad news.

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4
I'm not 100% sure I believe SNG but I'm willing to buy it for now.

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.

Epsilon Plus posted:

I'm not 100% sure I believe SNG but I'm willing to buy it for now.

I don't.

##vote SNG

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Rarity posted:

Well I think your face is wrong so nyeeeeeeh

Ohhhhhh that's why someone was saying they mixed us up

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

sandnavyguy posted:

drat mobile phone, I meant I hailed Hum but he died anyway. That’s bad news.

Uh this is pretty bad news.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
SNG, why did you choose Hum to jail?

Epsilon Plus posted:

I'm not 100% sure I believe SNG but I'm willing to buy it for now.

If he was scum would be pretty easy to just say he'd jailed somebody else, no?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Ah wait I guess there's always the chance he'd bullshit jailing a PR and get caught out.

But we did have a bunch of VTs claim already so could always just go for them.

But then why would you jail a claimed VT.

Ughhhh.

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Amnistar posted:

I don't.

##vote SNG

Look, I don’t like this either. We apparently have 2 killers, one of whom can bypass kill prevention. And since one of those dead is a scum (thankfully) it means it wasn’t the SK.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Bifauxnen posted:

Ohhhhhh that's why someone was saying they mixed us up

It's me, I'm the one who is owned :negative:

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Rarity posted:

SNG, why did you choose Hum to jail?


If he was scum would be pretty easy to just say he'd jailed somebody else, no?

Nah because jailing roleblocks the target so it's more loose ends and lies. IDK but if we have someone else targeting h um to prove SNG right it would be okay. I would hesitate to claim though because it probably isn't worth it.

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Rarity posted:

Ah wait I guess there's always the chance he'd bullshit jailing a PR and get caught out.

But we did have a bunch of VTs claim already so could always just go for them.

But then why would you jail a claimed VT.

Ughhhh.

I jailed him because he straight up was the first person to believe my claim, AND he sounded like he had a plan.

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.

sandnavyguy posted:

Look, I don’t like this either. We apparently have 2 killers, one of whom can bypass kill prevention. And since one of those dead is a scum (thankfully) it means it wasn’t the SK.

I mean...I didn't beleive you yesterday, and the only reason I moved to DGK is so *someone* died D1. Your claim today does nothing to make me want to beleive you.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

sandnavyguy posted:

Look, I don’t like this either. We apparently have 2 killers, one of whom can bypass kill prevention. And since one of those dead is a scum (thankfully) it means it wasn’t the SK.

I mean it could be a vigilante or some sort of BP ability too? Why do you think there's an SK my friend.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Toalpaz posted:

I mean it could be a vigilante or some sort of BP ability too? Why do you think there's an SK my friend.

I mean BP PGO here too. :)

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

rarity you may have a maths degree but I have a history degree and those posts are in the past

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Toalpaz posted:

I mean it could be a vigilante or some sort of BP ability too? Why do you think there's an SK my friend.

Because one of the people killed was a scum? I mean, I guess with shenanigans it’s possible they killed one of their own or something, but I’m going with occams razor.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Toalpaz posted:

I mean it could be a vigilante or some sort of BP ability too? Why do you think there's an SK my friend.

Yeah scum goon would be doing the kill most likely so b- could have run into a PGO or something. Definitely too early to assume SK

I don’t know what to make of jailing hum and him dying

SNG maybe I missed it. Did you get a success or whatever result and was it specific to hum or just generic?

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Toalpaz posted:

I mean BP PGO here too. :)

drat you toalpaz

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

if he were PGO I’d be dead.

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Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

sandnavyguy posted:

Because one of the people killed was a scum? I mean, I guess with shenanigans it’s possible they killed one of their own or something, but I’m going with occams razor.

Town vigs exist

sandnavyguy posted:

if he were PGO I’d be dead.

Not hum, b- could have run into a PGO

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