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Zvahl posted:this is really one of the deepest and most damning things about this--these are the same bigots people were rightly condemning years ago, and because they're unwilling to consider the possibility that democrat = bad, they have to twist it into a story of redemption so that anybody who did anything in the past is fine as long as they say donald trump is bad now I really hope that somebody records all of these "Trump is the single greatest threat to humanity since that time Hitler was given a Gundam" posts so that in 10+ years when he's being redeemed by the Liberal Succ Machine, we can at least comfort ourselves with knowing that we saw this poo poo coming from a mile away.
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the_steve posted:I really hope that somebody records all of these "Trump is the single greatest threat to humanity since that time Hitler was given a Gundam" posts so that in 10+ years when he's being redeemed by the Liberal Succ Machine, we can at least comfort ourselves with knowing that we saw this poo poo coming from a mile away. ah yes truly the most comforting thing of the past n years the truth
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Jewel Repetition posted:Which thread? Kanye thread lol
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Zvahl posted:ah yes truly the most comforting thing of the past n years i mean it's either that or drown myself in the bath
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Taintrunner posted:Kanye thread lol Oh god it's so good to have some bluemagas that I don't have to go to D&D to ridicule
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alarumklok posted:welcome, new Maoists. Find your name badge. Your Little Red Book and backyard furnace are on the table over there And for the anarchists we’re setting up a mutual aid network out in the woods away from these jokers, just shout Makhno quotes or Dead Kennedy lyrics and we’ll find you.
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Byzantine posted:neoliberalism: literally worse than an asteroid impact 
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Jewel Repetition posted:Oh god it's so good to have some bluemagas that I don't have to go to D&D to ridicule Indistinguishable from liberal bluecheck Twitter lmao
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This election will separate the wheat from the chaff. Keep an eye on those who side with Joe this election. Those are the people who will be ratting you out in a decade to the Cotton-men for extreme beliefs.
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apropos to nothing posted:biden making the case that trump is the better candidate to vote for if you want to defund the police Man, biden is actually making a pretty convincing case for trump there.
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I don't vote for racists or rapists! NOJOE!
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the_steve posted:https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1297316192655421441?s=19 Reveal yourself
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KaptainKrunk posted:I become more and more convinced every day that the top leadership of Bernie's campaign and possibly Bernie himself did not intend to win. Just imagine sitting there and doing nothing after Obama, Warren, Pete, and Amy collaborated to sabotage your campaign. there was an "or else" involved, count on it
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:there was an "or else" involved, count on it I've said it before, he's doing his own form of harm reduction. If he called out the bullshit without having an armory's worth of smoking guns (who am I kidding? Even if he did have those...), The Dems would use that as a cudgel against every other progressive like they were playing goddamn whack-a-mole. I mean, they're going to do that anyways because they want the progressives gone, but, I think he's still trying to do what he can to mitigate any fuckery aimed their direction
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i mean, they're gonna kill off their party with that kind of bullshit because 'reasonable, moderate republicans' do not exist-- why would bush-style republicans jump ship when they're winning elections? i'm not saying it's a bad thing. it's the least the party deserves.
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:i mean, they're gonna kill off their party with that kind of bullshit because 'reasonable, moderate republicans' do not exist-- why would bush-style republicans jump ship when they're winning elections? Because Democrats and Republicans are on the same team. Republicans drag everything to the right as hard as they can and then the Democrats put up some token #resistance while normalizing the poo poo the Republicans just did and setting the stage for the Republicans to do it all over again.
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:i mean, they're gonna kill off their party with that kind of bullshit because 'reasonable, moderate republicans' do not exist-- why would bush-style republicans jump ship when they're winning elections? if I posted about what the party truly deserves, I'd have to be pretty generous with my use of the term "in Minecraft"
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Code Jockey posted:if I posted about what the party truly deserves, I'd have to be pretty generous with my use of the term "in Minecraft" it'd be like a lovely SCP entry where every 7th word is redacted
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KaptainKrunk posted:I become more and more convinced every day that the top leadership of Bernie's campaign and possibly Bernie himself did not intend to win. Just imagine sitting there and doing nothing after Obama, Warren, Pete, and Amy collaborated to sabotage your campaign. I think he wanted to win but he wasn't willing to destroy, or even threaten to destroy, the Dem party to do it.
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tangy yet delightful posted:I think he wanted to win but he wasn't willing to destroy, or even threaten to destroy, the Dem party to do it. It wouldn't have been the party apparatus that would be in danger. They proved they're ready willing and eager to use people as shields when they told everyone to go out and vote in a pandemic.
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the_steve posted:It wouldn't have been the party apparatus that would be in danger. I'm thinking more so before the pandemic where he refused to call out the establishment candidates as people who would lose to Trump (which they certainly would have pre black swan event). Like why not destroy Biden in the debates and in ads and why apologize for your surrogates calling him out? Because in the end Bernie was afraid to lose even if he weakened the opposition which "could" help Trump win and he didn't have the fortitude to burn it down to more likely achieve his own victory.
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tangy yet delightful posted:I'm thinking more so before the pandemic where he refused to call out the establishment candidates as people who would lose to Trump (which they certainly would have pre black swan event). People already were pushing the idea that Bernie was a horrible foul tempered sexist racist who cultivated toxic online supporters that would harass those who said bad things about him. I think he wanted to avoid giving them more ammunition - but it's not like they would stop using that narrative anyway.
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tangy yet delightful posted:I'm thinking more so before the pandemic where he refused to call out the establishment candidates as people who would lose to Trump (which they certainly would have pre black swan event). It's partly a case of hindsight being 2020, I think. He wanted to focus on the issues. The instant he went negative, that would be all anyone would talk about, and his actual positions on things would be drowned out in "Bernie goes low!!" headlines. And then yeah, whatever personal reasons he had that were holding him back. I'm not ignoring those, and the fact that he never did swing back is something that disappointed me, but to a certain extent, I get it.
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The poison-pill for the establishment (not that they care, for now) is that Bernie largely won the battle of ideas and yet they aren't going to move a loving inch in his direction because they are short-sighted morons. Biden is hosed because MSNBC and CNN won't do for him what they did for Obama or what Fox does for Trump. They won't defend or excuse him, which will cause abandonment but all but the most "b-but, remember Trump??" people. The Dems have already lost the youth, are in the process of losing hispanics. The GOP, even if it loses overall size, is going to increase in commitment, motivation, and turnout at the same time that large segments of the Democrat coalition fall away and their new "base" (white suburban voters) abandons them. Bernie was also probably hosed from jump because MSNBC and CNN successfully whipped the conservative base at the same levels or probably more than Bernie's actual organization was doing for his base. The fact that it took an unprecedented intervention from Obama to get the people who came in 2nd and 3rd to drop out is really telling just what shaky foundations the establishments rests. KaptainKrunk has issued a correction as of 06:57 on Aug 23, 2020 |
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Heliotrope posted:People already were pushing the idea that Bernie was a horrible foul tempered sexist racist who cultivated toxic online supporters that would harass those who said bad things about him. I think he wanted to avoid giving them more ammunition - but it's not like they would stop using that narrative anyway. the_steve posted:It's partly a case of hindsight being 2020, I think. All very true - I'm mostly frustratedly posting about it really I guess. One line I remember Bernie saying or agreeing to was something like "yes Biden can beat Trump" anyway... NO JOE
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Have you read up on what Republican legislatures do in red states on the rare occasion a Democrat makes it into the governor's office? They pretty much tear the entire governmental apparatus of that state apart. It's often upheld by the courts. I live in a red state with a democratic governor, comrade. I think you and I are saying the same thing, that it's easy enough to fix elections in the here and now. We all know democrats have no interest in winning elections and the status quo of republicans winning elections generally and able to subvert pretty much any election whenever if it becomes necessary is preferable (from the perspective of those in power) to more overt ways of invalidating elections after the fact.
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tangy yet delightful posted:I'm mostly frustratedly posting aren't we all. 
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Taintrunner posted:all the birds are going to die now thanks to neoliberalism. gonna post this on twitter as my own post, sorry. also, gently caress joe biden
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it’s like a revolving door of YESJOEs in CSPAM as of late. soldiers, we must maintain discipline
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Taintrunner posted:it’s like a revolving door of YESJOEs in CSPAM as of late. soldiers, we must maintain discipline who the gently caress would vote for Joe Biden? lol
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:who the gently caress would vote for Joe Biden? lol I can't imagine. I just can't.
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