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Baron von Eevl posted:I mean overall the movie is fine, it's occasionally pretty humorous and the plot isn't that bad, as someone who doesn't speak or read Japanese it didn't stand out to me. I think it's something that would have had a good opportunity for another layer so it's a shame he didn't find a Japanese screenwriter with a similar aesthetic to him to collaborate with. I think it would have given some nice dimension and would allow for some bilingual jokes. I vaguely recall Matthew mchonahay (yeah whatever ) basically spelling out why catwoman was planet hopping (she wanted to catburgle some guy she was in love with?) and it reminds me of how they explaine inceptioning in inception and boy does he have a problem telling instead of showing in a lot of his movies
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:29 |
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That's always been a confusing point on the reception to Inception to me. It's a neat concept but a ton of time is spent explaining everything that's happening leaving very little room for the characters to be interesting people.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:44 |
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Dude needs to grow up.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 22:50 |
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 22:57 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:Someone on these forums was talking about Interstellar when it came out and made the point that it's really weird how it's a movie essentially about reproducing but it's totally sexless. Not like that it doesn't have people loving, there's like this anhedonic element of sterility suffusing the whole thing because all of his movies are like that. The protagonist loves his daughter and seemingly forgets he has a son, and the age gap romance is a whole lot of nothing.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 23:02 |
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Davros1 posted:Dude needs to grow up. He's just playing to his base.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 23:24 |
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The son and he never really understood each other (remember his daughter was the one making waves by insisting the space program was real) and his son was more interested in staying home and farming whatever few crops were left. Then his son's last message is basically "gently caress you for abandoning us, you're dead to me." I don't think the movie expressly forgot about the son, I think the son moved on and forgot about his father (and then probably starved to death on Earth because he was focused on clinging to The Old Ways). I forget, was there actually a romance between Catwoman and Alrightalrightalright? I thought there was at most mutual respect. Doesn't she not get sent back in spacetime through the hypercube tesseract or whatever?
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 23:28 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:The son and he never really understood each other (remember his daughter was the one making waves by insisting the space program was real) and his son was more interested in staying home and farming whatever few crops were left. Then his son's last message is basically "gently caress you for abandoning us, you're dead to me." I don't think the movie expressly forgot about the son, I think the son moved on and forgot about his father (and then probably starved to death on Earth because he was focused on clinging to The Old Ways). The movie ends with him going back through the wormhole because he loves her (apparently nobody in the future society is interested in finding out what's going on with the whole wormhole situation.)
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 23:32 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6512XKKNkU Warning: This trailer is for Grown Ups Only! LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:The movie ends with him going back through the wormhole because he loves her (apparently nobody in the future society is interested in finding out what's going on with the whole wormhole situation.) Her ship is also full of embryos so I guess she's gonna be forever preggers? Or did they have fake uteruses too? It sort of glossed over all that.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 23:41 |
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:(apparently nobody in the future society is interested in finding out what's going on with the whole wormhole situation.) Why would they be? Society doesn't know about it. They just know Murphy Cooper solved the equation to allow humanity to get out into space safely on gigantic colony ships. Her dad is just some guy who gave birth to the savior of humanity, ergo why when he's like "nice of y'all to name it after me" they're like "uh, it's named after your daughter". Like he's probably just some sob story about her growing up covered in the surely hundreds of biographies that would be written about her once humanity was spacebound - lost her mother very young, her dad went out to space and was never heard from again, her grandfather died of dust lung, nearly lost her brother and his family to the same, her mentor died before he could solve the equation, but she persevered and solved the impossible. Also claims the equation came to her because of a ghost, but hey, aren't all saviors of humanity a little crazy?
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 23:44 |
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Arrival was the better hard sci-fi movie all around, despite having everyone's least Avenger in it. Really it helps to tie heavy themes with relatable human experiences. A lot of old sci-fi aged like poo poo because none of the characters were meant for any purpose beyond being ciphers who move the plot. The oldest sci-fi story that felt truly character driven was probably Flowers for Algernon.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I mean overall the movie is fine, it's occasionally pretty humorous and the plot isn't that bad, as someone who doesn't speak or read Japanese it didn't stand out to me. I think it's something that would have had a good opportunity for another layer so it's a shame he didn't find a Japanese screenwriter with a similar aesthetic to him to collaborate with. I think it would have given some nice dimension and would allow for some bilingual jokes. I think the Haiku joke was a pretty good bilingual joke. Spoiler is literally explaining the joke: Sometimes folks have a really good idea for 2/3rds of a Haiku and no idea for one line. So there are stock lines that get jammed in there. At least one of the Haikus in the movie prominently features one of these stock lines Which is a funny joke if you know about this. And just a weird Japanese sounding non sequitur if you don't. My memory doesn't work well enough to claim that every haiku has a stock line in the movie.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Arrival was the better hard sci-fi movie all around, despite having everyone's least Avenger in it. Really it helps to tie heavy themes with relatable human experiences. A lot of old sci-fi aged like poo poo because none of the characters were meant for any purpose beyond being ciphers who move the plot. Pretty unfair to compare Nolan with Denis Villeneuve. He's more in the Snyder or Bay ballpark.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 00:55 |
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The space stuff in Interstellar is amazing (the docking scene is possibly the most tense I've ever felt in a theater) and the rest is such a drag.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 00:59 |
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Lol at using Hallelujah for the trailer music
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 02:21 |
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habituallyred posted:I think the Haiku joke was a pretty good bilingual joke. Spoiler is literally explaining the joke: That's cool and the sort of thing I'm talking about. There should have been more of that. a less subtle version that I'm thinking about is in Arrested Development when Buster runs away from home by hiding in Lupe's car, she says something about "retardo" but it's captioned as "now I must take care of Buster." As a side note, Arrested Development really hasn't aged well.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 03:00 |
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Meanwhile.... https://twitter.com/therealsupes/status/1297232110672064512?s=20
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married but discreet posted:Pretty unfair to compare Nolan with Denis Villeneuve. He's more in the Snyder or Bay ballpark. He's nowhere near as good as those two.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 04:47 |
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while looking for that game I also found this greenlight that
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 04:48 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:That's cool and the sort of thing I'm talking about. There should have been more of that. a less subtle version that I'm thinking about is in Arrested Development when Buster runs away from home by hiding in Lupe's car, she says something about "retardo" but it's captioned as "now I must take care of Buster." Very few things from the 2000s have aged well, noted by missing episodes on Peacock and elsewhere, lol.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 05:10 |
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4 hours of Justice League My god, the 2 hours of the theatrical version were already poo poo enough!
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 06:26 |
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I think people are still really mad about having to face up to how Joss Whedon was always bad.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I think people are still really mad about having to face up to how Joss Whedon was always bad. I always thought he loving sucked, whenever that man writes anything all of the characters end up sounding the same. Also Buffy was full of awful male characters that in retrospect made the revelation that Whedon was an entitled creep very unsurprising.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 06:35 |
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Why does an ancient evil alien have a latin symbol carved into his chest? Why is his henchman named after a Canadian rock band?
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Why does an ancient evil alien have a latin symbol carved into his chest? check out this guy who doesn't have to worry about any of the characters in Jojo
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 07:07 |
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It's not Darkseid unless at some point someone walks into their living room to find him sitting in the comfiest chair.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 07:29 |
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https://twitter.com/InsaneLetterbox/status/1297174934876233730?s=19
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 08:57 |
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i hope it's like funny games and we watch chris nolan push a rewind button on a remote over and over i have never seen funny games
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I think people are still really mad about having to face up to how Joss Whedon was always bad. It is funny that there was a moment in 2004 when Buffy was over and Garden State came out that there were people that really loved Joss Whedon and Zach Braff.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 09:34 |
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Nolan makes competent movies but like someone said, they all feel sterile as hell. TDK stood out a bit because a coked out Heath ledger pumped a lot of life into the movie
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 09:51 |
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Dunkirk is a masterpiece.
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Lid posted:Dunkirk is a masterpiece. Dunkirk recreated the famous evacuation of apparently 5 soldiers from a nearly deserted beach using a handful of small boats. Truly epic in scale
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Failed Imagineer posted:Dunkirk recreated the famous evacuation of apparently 5 soldiers from a nearly deserted beach using a handful of small boats. Truly epic in scale Clearly he should have hired the Marvel CGI legions and made a big Vaseline glossy spectacle of it all. More explosions! More CG blood!
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Failed Imagineer posted:Dunkirk recreated the famous evacuation of apparently 5 soldiers from a nearly deserted beach using a handful of small boats. Truly epic in scale inserteyerollhere
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 10:32 |
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Lid posted:Dunkirk is a masterpiece. Eh, I thought it was immensely forgettable
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 10:36 |
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Only 5 stars????
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Taintrunner posted:Clearly he should have hired the Marvel CGI legions and made a big Vaseline glossy spectacle of it all. More explosions! More CG blood! If only there were some sort of middle ground. Like any one of the many movies which successfully depicted large groups of soldiers. Like, did anyone watching Dunkirk really get the sense that 350,000 soldiers were evacuated from that beach? As someone who enjoys pretty much every Nolan movie except Dunkirk a lot, it's still funny how quickly people rush to whiteknight his every directorial choice. Hell, I'll probably do the exact same once I see Tenet so Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Aug 23, 2020 |
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# ? Apr 18, 2024 00:26 |
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Chris Nolan should do a Future War remake that movie had no "future" and there was no "war". It was a knockoff Jean Claude Van Damme and a Dinosaur suit that makes Tammy and the T Rex look like Jurassic Park also should have more loving in it
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