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RFC2324 posted:Eh, I didn't realize the kid just got elected to the Kansas State House of Representatives. That makes it way more relevant. He won the Democratic primary in a race where the Republicans haven't bothered to put anybody up. Unfortunately, he was the progressive, Green New Deal candidate, so mostly likely he'll get replaced with the corporate stooge he beat by 14 votes.
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GreenMetalSun posted:Given how often he claims in the video that Lovecraft is lighthearted, fun, and easy-reading, also that it has no deep themes and there's nothing significant to think about, I don't think he likes Lovecraft or the mythos very much. Going by his other video titles he apparently seems to think that lovecraft, personally, was super cool? So uh, maybe he's just a big racist who likes the other big racist's works in an entirely uncomplicated fashion. Which is odd because even then you would have to appreciate that lovecraft's work is driven by racism whether you think the racism is good or whether you think that the racism allowed him to describe a more general concept of terror in the face of incomprehensibly vast and malevolent entities and environments, you still have to, presumably, realize that racism is a thing in lovecraft? Unless you actually don't know anything about lovecraft and read the books in an entirely naive way without knowing anything about the dude. But any understanding of the books in context would have to reach the conclusion that racism is a totally valid and in fact, important part of lovecraft stories, whether you think it's good and should be emulated or whether you think it's bad and should be either consciously excluded to allow more people to enjoy it or that it should be faced up to, or that systemic racism actually might constitute a cosmic horror in and of itself, with the scale of it and sense of powerlessness you can feel when on the receiving end of it actually fitting very well into a lovecraftian story. So I'm gonna go with "he knows lovecraft is racist, thinks it's good, but is too cowardly to say that"
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https://twitter.com/MikePeezy_/status/1297380204873224193?s=20 How do people not realize this says way more about them than anyone else? Try having sex with women who actually want to have sex with you.
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Aug 23, 2020 21:08
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Byzantine posted:He won the Democratic primary in a race where the Republicans haven't bothered to put anybody up. considering what happened the last time a weird kid who espoused progressive politics while displaying controlling and egocentric tendencies along with a lack of remorse got a big following, the stooge might be less dangerous in the long run 
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Byzantine posted:He won the Democratic primary in a race where the Republicans haven't bothered to put anybody up. guessing here you've never seen Kansas
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Dr Christmas posted:I’m guessing Kill Six Billion Demons as well. The comic is currently expressing pro-trans themes, and we all know how idiots get riled up about that. I am only on like Book 2 but assuming this is about White Chain, her gender dysphoria is explicitly mentioned on the second page she appears on, fourteen pages into the comic as a whole. How....how could anyone possibly miss that 
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food court bailiff posted:I am only on like Book 2 but assuming this is about White Chain, her gender dysphoria is explicitly mentioned on the second page she appears on, fourteen pages into the comic as a whole. How....how could anyone possibly miss that
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PetraCore posted:Other characters in the comic insist angels are all genderless so it must be true, that's how. (Nevermind that specifically angels are sexless, as in non-reproductive, and NOT genderless). Strong av+post synergy here
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You misunderstood because the "punishment" is "people complaining that he was a political candidate when he's shown no remorse". You're not entitled to be an elected official.
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food court bailiff posted:I am only on like Book 2 but assuming this is about White Chain, her gender dysphoria is explicitly mentioned on the second page she appears on, fourteen pages into the comic as a whole. How....how could anyone possibly miss that Oooh, you’re in for a treat when you get caught up, then.  But yeah, I legitimately have no idea how you could read the comic and not get that she’s a trans allegory.
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:If she had been born over a hundred years ago to a white family she probably would be as racist as anyone else. Bizarrely self-aggrandizing to claim your psyche would be the exact same in that context, unless she time travelled. Eh, there were non-racist white suffragists who led integrated groups (Lucretia Mott was one), but more importantly there were Black suffragist groups that were extremely awesome. Susan B. Anthony, however, was a big old racist and classist, and had connections with old money types who wanted the white women’s vote to dilute the Black men’s vote, and because she had the  behind her, she had way more power than the leaders of the Black and integrated groups.There is a lot of good journalism about Black suffragists coming out this year, and it is definitely a “what could have been” kind of moment.  why we can’t have nice things.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:guessing here you've never seen Kansas There was nothing in that post about hills or other topological features so I don't understand
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AlbieQuirky posted:Eh, there were non-racist white suffragists who led integrated groups (Lucretia Mott was one), but more importantly there were Black suffragist groups that were extremely awesome. My point is that it's really odd to phrase it as "I would have done it properly." when you have literally no idea what you would have been like back then versus the environment you were raised in now, and that it's weird to make a retrospective judgment of moral errors in history by framing it as something you would have fixed had you been there. It's just an extremely bad way of saying something by presenting yourself as an important part of the equation instead of just presenting it in a third person context without the weird connotations of self-importance. Like if it were me I would have properly blown Hitler up during Operation Valkyrie. I don't have any issue with her point, she just made it terribly.
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"Donatism" is a meme now and I'm all aaaaa
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Data Graham posted:"Donatism" is a meme now and I'm all aaaaa Please forgive my ignorance. What exactly is donatism?
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BrigadierSensible posted:Please forgive my ignorance. Thank you for asking.
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BrigadierSensible posted:What exactly is donatism? An early splinter of Christianity in North Africa. During the last major persecution of Christians under Emperor Diocletian, the governor of Africa (roughly Tunisia now) was satisfied with those who handed over their texts (the Bible didn't exist yet) and renounced their faith. The persecutions ended when Constantine took over, and it became a huge deal over if people who had done that should be allowed to rejoin the church. The Donatists said no. They continued to oppose Constantine himself also when the Emperor tried to mediate as part of his consolidation of the church, though, and took a hardline interpretation of Christianity, setting off riots and being condemned as heretics. Byzantine has a new favorite as of 05:26 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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More specifically for the tweet, Donatists believed that priests must be free of sin for confession and other sacraments to be valid. This proved difficult in practice, so this shitbag is complaining that people are upset at him for not being a perfect saint and that if this is the standard that leaders must be held to by the left then progressivism is doooooooomed. In reality they are mad at him for being an unrepentant abuser.
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PetraCore posted:Other characters in the comic insist angels are all genderless so it must be true, that's how. (Nevermind that specifically angels are sexless, as in non-reproductive, and NOT genderless). Does it go into why they have genders?
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bhangraton posted:Does it go into why they have genders? They were given form by humans. Their corporeal form is just stone or metal armor, in reality they look like the actual Biblical depiction of angels. You know, this kind of poo poo 
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Basically, the majority of angels in the setting have varying degrees of contempt for humanity, and think that doing just about anything that makes them appear closer to humanity is a sign of weakness on their part. White Chain is pretty much the only one of them that still actively gives a poo poo about their original mission of protecting and helping humanity, and pays the price for that both by being the angel who’s died and reincarnated the most out of them all, and by getting banished from their territory when her form becomes too womanly for their liking.
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Fister Roboto posted:They were given form by humans. Their corporeal form is just stone or metal armor, in reality they look like the actual Biblical depiction of angels. 
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gently caress Biden etc. but I'm pretty Dick Sponger is doing this because he's well aware of his reputation. https://twitter.com/ProudSocialist/status/1297730780706123776?s=19
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Remember when liberals got apoplectic over Joe Rogan endorsing Bernie.
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https://twitter.com/sexenheimer/status/1297706714007924736 Turns out witches are coming out against covid restrictions.
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Inceltown posted:https://twitter.com/sexenheimer/status/1297706714007924736 Didn't some baby witches just try and curse the moon? Maybe witches should stop witching for a minute?
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Inceltown posted:https://twitter.com/sexenheimer/status/1297706714007924736 I tried to find a good source of the video, but couldn't. Sorry. But the nutjob that got into an argument at Bunnings about wearing a mask, is also a witch and a healer, (she claims to have healed a former PM from negative energy) and all that jazz. And she put a spell on the premier Dan Andrews because of the stage 4 restrictions we are now in here in Victoria. Restrictions that are working, by the way. As I type. ew have had the lowest new cases in more than a month. Here is a link to a news story about it that has the video and a radio interview with her. Beware it is from the Murdoch press. https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/r...c636e3e8edecd12 BrigadierSensible has a new favorite as of 10:35 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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Inceltown posted:https://twitter.com/sexenheimer/status/1297706714007924736 Since when
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teen witch posted:Since when Most droll.
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So my friend who for some reason is a giant Shapiro fangirl, has revealed she’s not above calling him out when he’s being too stupid for her Though in the vast pantheon of dumb poo poo Shapiro says I’m surprised that’s what made her comment.
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:If she had been born over a hundred years ago to a white family she probably would be as racist as anyone else. Bizarrely self-aggrandizing to claim your psyche would be the exact same in that context, unless she time travelled. I recently got in an argument with someone who wanted everyone in the past judged by modern standards because he was absolutely convinced that no matter what time period he was born and raised in, he’d come out making all the same conclusions he did today about race and gender politics because “I was raised by conservatives and realized racism is bad anyway!”
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Skwirl posted:Remember when liberals got apoplectic over Joe Rogan endorsing Bernie. Yes, and that was stupid and disingenuous. But I also think Richard Spencer and David Duke just say whatever they think will outrage the most people. Spencer saying he’ll vote for Biden is about as meaningful as Duke saying he likes Ilhan Omar.
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I think in context of the original tweet it is entirely reasonable to suggest that the decision to exclude black people from large parts of the suffragette movement was wrong and that many people, being the people they are today, would not do that if given the choice? Like just because people in the past were wrong because of environmental circumstances or whatever doesn't make them not still wrong. You can absolutely believe that they were a product of their time and also garbage from a current understanding of the issue. You don't need to like people from the past. They're dead, they aren't going to gently caress you if you stan them online.
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OwlFancier posted:I think in context of the original tweet it is entirely reasonable to suggest that the decision to exclude black people from large parts of the suffragette movement was wrong and that many people, being the people they are today, would not do that if given the choice? It's not about "We have to either stan them or hate them." It's an ego thing: everyone wants to think they would have been the good guy in history, so everyone in the past who doesn't meet modern social standards was retroactively doomed to Hell. You need to be able to recognize who was garbage even by that context.
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i simply would have explained to thomas jefferson that owning another human as property is immoral
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chitoryu12 posted:It's not about "We have to either stan them or hate them." It's an ego thing: everyone wants to think they would have been the good guy in history, so everyone in the past who doesn't meet modern social standards was retroactively doomed to Hell. You need to be able to recognize who was garbage even by that context. I'm not necessarly sure about that, I think it's more that we should appreciate that even if people might be key figures in a movement it is entirely reasonable and desirable that the movement should entirely eclipse and supercede them, and that they be relegated to, at best, useful contribitors in their time but not people to be admired. It ties in well with the lovecraft discussion, I think. He was a garbage person but his work, I think, has spoken to a lot of people that he certainly wouldn't have even considered human, much less capable of appreciating something in what he was writing. But it doesn't make him less garbage that he did that, and we can take the ideas it inspires in people today and simply use how how we want, make something better of it. I think it's more that people are tired of lionising people from history or saying we have to be deferent to their memory because they did something good while also doing bad things. Why not instead simply take the good things and run with them on their own merit? The dead do not own their ideas and aren't in a position to care what you think about them. And hopefully when we die people will do the same to us.
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