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There was a comic I read years ago where in the afterword the author talked about how they'd written several stories about lesbian couples before but this was there first time doing a yuri story and it stood out to me because previously I probably would've thought all manga like that would be considered yuri but thats not really the case.
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This is basically what I was getting at earlier.
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Aug 20, 2020 01:59
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the key in all this is the time a prolific yuri artist tweeted "portal is yuri"
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Aug 20, 2020 02:12
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the "its just friendship between girls" part was what made me think that it becoming more directly romantic isn't too likely, more than the "not yuri" part
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Aug 20, 2020 03:19
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A section about 'just friendship' isn't in the tweet thread, and the part where they bring up yuri is, to be clear, that the mangaka says they aren't going to define it as yuri or say that it's wrong if someone else calls it yuri. I wouldn't know if the deleted reply at the top was less neutral, but from what I see there's not really an authorial statement coming down. It's just "think of it what you will"
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Aug 20, 2020 05:45
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i'd heard about the author's statement before but never saw a full tl of it so it kinda felt like there was context being lost
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Aug 20, 2020 06:11
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lih posted:the "its just friendship between girls" part was what made me think that it becoming more directly romantic isn't too likely its possible the deleted tweets said that, but given that they explain they deleted them because they didn't want people to take them out of context, i doubt they said anything that definitive either. because a definitive statement like 'its just friendship between girls' would mean the same thing in or out of context. i am not accusing you of anything since we all get second/third hand information telephone gamed to us sometimes, but my guess is that someone - who has the stereotypical western view of 'all lesbian manga is 'yuri' - saw the author saying that they don't want to call it yuri, and editorialized it as 'they're saying its not gay,' and people took that as gospel. Endorph fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Aug 20, 2020 |
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Aug 20, 2020 06:18
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https://twitter.com/haginomakoto/status/1099949198210781184 if you're talking about here it's like, "The approach from the store?" (I assumed this related to being advertised as yuri) "I don't want to deny it like "that's wrong!" but instead if I just continue to draw what I want to, I believe that eventually what I want to express—the world I want to depict will be conveyed. I will continue to draw with this wish in mind." well, in any case this is like, a very unofficial twitter convo and I think mining all of your impressions of the manga from here is probably not what they want. 99.99% of people who read nettaigyo will not see this however, i'm sure you could glean something about the mangaka from their numerous yuri doujinshi on dynasty scans
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Aug 20, 2020 07:07
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Endorph posted:i am not accusing you of anything since we all get second/third hand information telephone gamed to us sometimes, but my guess is that someone - who has the stereotypical western view of 'all lesbian manga is 'yuri' - saw the author saying that they don't want to call it yuri, and editorialized it as 'they're saying its not gay,' and people took that as gospel. now that the creator hasn't more directly ruled it out i will also be a little disappointed if they don't kiss lol
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Aug 20, 2020 08:01
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Aug 22, 2020 08:24
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Space Flower posted:https://twitter.com/haginomakoto/status/1099949198210781184
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Aug 22, 2020 10:27
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Finished Run Away With Me, Girl. It was real good! Worth the wait. A question, though -- in the TL notes at the end they mention two other mangas as "a tough read but so good", Octave (which is already on my to-read list) and "The Feelings Which We-- *shot*", and I have no idea what the second one is referring to. Anyone know?
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Aug 22, 2020 19:37
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https://dynasty-scans.com/series/the_feelings_we_all_must_endure
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Aug 22, 2020 19:39
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Thank you!
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Aug 22, 2020 23:17
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Haha oh poo poo, I totally didn't notice them all being based on the seven deadly sins and their associated demons.
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Aug 23, 2020 05:27
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i knew because i reread the ending recently to reaffirm that, yeah, i had no desire to reread the rest of it 
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Aug 23, 2020 05:35
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I read it a while back and it took me a chapter to realize I'd already read it. Didn't remember much from it honestly
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Aug 23, 2020 17:59
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it's well liked i just can't read stuff about people being complete doormats the like ace character rules though
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Literally nobody in that was likable. I hated everyone. The ace character and the MC, I hated the least.
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Aug 23, 2020 19:05
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I love the latest Witch's Servant. Just pure gender euphoria for Rei, it's delightful.
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I Am Fowl posted:I love the latest Witch's Servant. Just pure gender euphoria for Rei, it's delightful. God I know that first time skirt feel.
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I Am Fowl posted:I love the latest Witch's Servant. Just pure gender euphoria for Rei, it's delightful. Everything about it just keeps getting better somehow. Well, the supposed main plot is kind of on the backburner, but I think that works in the manga's favour. According to the (surprisingly not-horrible) comments on Mangadex, the japanese version is at least up to chapter 77, so there's quite a bit yet to come 
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Read Collectors. It's real good and real gay.    The covers to the magazine it was in are also good:   
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Aug 24, 2020 14:48
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Goddamn are those covers incredible.
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Aug 24, 2020 20:41
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I know! Edit: Looks like this is the magazine: https://twitter.com/rakuen_info Seems to be grab-bag shoujo, I can't pick out an exact theme. Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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Aug 24, 2020 21:21
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hi all I'm in the process of trying to figure some stuff out and was wondering if anyone had a rec for a bi-focused show or manga, or I guess something with that at least as a focus. I'm not really at all certain how to say what I'm looking for, it's frustrating, I guess I'm just kind of hoping to find something that happens to mirror the stuff I'm grappling with.
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Aug 25, 2020 04:25
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two Hero Who Pulled Out the Holy Sword updates
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Oh Snapple! posted:hi all If you’re okay with talking about it, what stuff are you grappling with?  Why is this so...fetishy
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Aug 25, 2020 12:49
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I think the best way to sum it up is essentially in coming to terms with and just accepting it. I've had a mentality for a few years now of "Nah, you're not bi, you're just a hosed up selfish piece of poo poo looking to hide behind a genuine identity." It's a big reason I've never been involved in any lgbtq threads here, and it's something I'm trying to get past.
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you can be selfish and bi, as shown in uhhhh jealousy by scarlet beriko (note: not actually shown in that) for real tho the only thing i can think of that deals that much with bisexuality is utena. theres other stuff with bi characters but not much that really explores the identity. probably because of the whole yaoi/yuri genre thing, usually if a character is bi its still primarily interested in their same-sex relationships.
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Pollyanna posted:
i don't really get that from it, its mostly jokes about the protag and her experiencing gender europhia. the jokes can be sexual and the manga borrows motifs i guess you can expect from more fetishy things but ehh Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Aug 25, 2020 |
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Aug 25, 2020 13:18
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Fair. I’m used to seeing the same things employed by people who specifically set out to make fetish art, so it’s hard for me to separate the two concepts. That and I’ve always been very reserved/self-conscious about my own gender stuff, so that leaked in as well. I’m bad with indulging in girliness.
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Aug 25, 2020 13:30
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yeah uhhh not to judge but if you associate happiness with performing the gender you want to perform with 'fetishness,' thats on you
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Endorph posted:yeah uhhh not to judge but if you associate happiness with performing the gender you want to perform with 'fetishness,' thats on you i don't think that is what made polyanna read it as fetishy but the motifs used throughout the manga.
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honestly if it was actively fetishy tho i would prob be fine with it, i only really get bothered by that stuff when i find its being actively harmful. understand why others do tho.
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Aug 25, 2020 13:43
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Snooze Cruise posted:i don't think that is what made polyanna read it as fetishy but the motifs used throughout the manga. i dont know what motifs are
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Aug 25, 2020 13:43
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Well you see before Tv Tropes there was Motif-Index of Folk-Literature and
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Snooze Cruise posted:Well you see before Tv Tropes there was Motif-Index of Folk-Literature and
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Don’t you dare invoke the fell name of *V Tro*es in My House.
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Endorph posted:yeah uhhh not to judge but if you associate happiness with performing the gender you want to perform with 'fetishness,' thats on you That’s not the fetishy-to-me part, it’s the uhhh hm. I don’t know what part of it I was thinking of. I think it might be the terminology? The use of the word “girlification” sets off some alarm bells for me, but that seems to be the translator, not the original author. Snooze Cruise posted:honestly if it was actively fetishy tho i would prob be fine with it, i only really get bothered by that stuff when i find its being actively harmful. understand why others do tho. It’s not actively harmful, it’s just indulgent in a way I’m not used to. Which isn’t the same as fetishy now that I think about it. Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Aug 25, 2020 |
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