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The Little Death posted:
Mookie's views of love and sex remind me a lot of Ernest Cline's "porn for nerds" essay which is deeply terrible and no one should read. Great update, The Little Death. Thanks. SardonicTyrant posted:Curses, I guess I have to relinquish my title as King of Dominic Deegan. Woe is me. username/post combo
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I don't think I ever even noticed Dominic made Luna his assistant, the power dynamic is so explicit and creepy! It's a lot like that anime trope of a pure helpless girl falling into the lap of a 20-something loser's life, except Luna's issues are a little too real and it really highlights how manipulative Dominic looks.
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TheHan posted:I don't think I ever even noticed Dominic made Luna his assistant, the power dynamic is so explicit and creepy! It's a lot like that anime trope of a pure helpless girl falling into the lap of a 20-something loser's life, except Luna's issues are a little too real and it really highlights how manipulative Dominic looks. It's easy to miss because after this story arc and maybe the one after it, it isn't really alluded to again. She becomes just his girlfriend/adventuring companion and stops washing his underwear and making his tendies. This, like many other things, is more of an unplanned consequence of the comic becoming more about an itinerant band of murderhobo ttrpg protagonists (so Dominic isn't in his hut so doesn't need Luna to clean it) versus being a conscious choice. I like how he explicitly says that if she serves him as a domestic drudge that he'll let her sleep there. There's a word for this, and it isn't "assistant." EDIT: is there a way to edit an image into a post? I can't seem to figure it out. Invisible Clergy fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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Aug 27, 2020 21:44
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In large part this is because after this arc, once Dominic and his brother are done running around the area, they go and basically move into his mom’s house.
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Aug 27, 2020 21:54
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Mors Rattus posted:In large part this is because after this arc, once Dominic and his brother are done running around the area, they go and basically move into his mom’s house. Well, Mookie had to invent Miranda first before he could dump that stuff on her. Invisible Clergy posted:I like how he explicitly says that if she serves him as a domestic drudge that he'll let her sleep there. There's a word for this, and it isn't "assistant." https://ibb.co/qyMzNp0
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Aug 27, 2020 21:58
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Pyrotoad posted:You should also stick to the sub for both FMA and FMA:B because Edward's dub VA is legally a piece of poo poo. Japanese Edward is sooo much better anyway. I'm totally in love with that VA's voice.
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Aug 27, 2020 22:05
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It’s a pity, really, because the dub otherwise s pretty solid. Dude’s just a piece of poo poo and should be memory holed. (Tamaki of Ouran was voiced by Hatsune Miku.)
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Aug 27, 2020 22:07
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Mushishi is really hosed up but it's all wrapped in this incredibly chill atmosphere. It's goodMors Rattus posted:It’s a pity, really, because the dub otherwise s pretty solid. Dude’s just a piece of poo poo and should be memory holed. I don't think I ever watched the Japanese track for Ouran but that's pretty cool.
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Aug 27, 2020 22:31
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Skypie posted:Mushishi is really hosed up but it's all wrapped in this incredibly chill atmosphere. It's good Uh That was a joke Like saying Miku invented Minecraft
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Aug 27, 2020 22:41
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Mushishi is very good, the soundtrack especially. I should really watch the second season, the first one was mesmerising. But also man that went to poo poo so fast after my post where I almost kinda sorted defended Luna 
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Aug 27, 2020 22:56
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Mors Rattus posted:Uh In hindsight, I probably should've realized that given Ouran is from like the mid-2000s  Now, here's my 10000 word thesis on Ouran's Haruhi vs Luna as characters:
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Aug 27, 2020 23:04
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Mors Rattus posted:Uh WHAT
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Aug 27, 2020 23:31
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Why is he smoking a pipe 24/7? Has anyone asked that before?
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Aug 27, 2020 23:36
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The human creator of minecraft decloaked as a terf, so people including the game company itself disavowed him, so people began saying Miku created the game as a joke. Codependent Poster posted:Why is he smoking a pipe 24/7? Oh, I actually know the answer to this one. First, Gandalf smoked a long pipe like this. Second, Mookie adheres very strongly to the famous Mary Sue Litmus test's tried and true path to writing terrible characters by giving them a bunch of fake flaws that never meaningfully impede them, like how in romcoms the heroine is said to be "clumsy" when she isn't in a scenario where that would do anything to her like a dancer or brain surgeon. Mookie is always very quick to mention Dominic and Luna's fake flaws. About 3 or 4 years into this comic, I believe someone in Mookie's family experienced a smoking-related cancer scare, so he decide to have Dominic stop smoking tobacco. Shortly after, he had Dominic get his foot disintegrated by ancient Egyptian laser beams and also get a tooth knocked out. He got both of these things fixed by the alterist I've mentioned upthread and they never caused him any significant impediment again. They serve purely as props for Mookie to whip out and say "nuh uh, not a Mary Sue, he's got weaknesses." After this point, in panels, blurbs, bios, etc, he refers to them as a "gimpy seer and his deformed girlfriend" because Mookie is a great person at all times with no abhorrent views. Invisible Clergy fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 27, 2020 23:37
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Invisible Clergy posted:The human creator of minecraft decloaked as a terf, so people including the game company itself disavowed him, so people began saying Miku created the game as a joke. Dang it guy I’m doing a username thing here! 
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Codependent Poster posted:Why is he smoking a pipe 24/7? I'm assuming because he's part of the dark enlightenment movement.
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Aug 27, 2020 23:51
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Why was Hatsune chosen as the “aggressively enforce Death of the Author” default character?
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Aug 27, 2020 23:53
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Because pipes look cool, but he will magically give it up with absolutely no problems with addiction or withdrawal later on due to magical surgery, because Mookie went vegan and got into health stuff.
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Aug 27, 2020 23:53
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The chief character in Star Power also always has what looks like a cigar in his mouth, but it's never lit and is actually a "chew stick" which is never explained so you can probably assume it's not bad like tobacco.
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Aug 27, 2020 23:57
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Captain Oblivious posted:Dang it guy I’m doing a username thing here! How silly of me. Looks like I was Captain Oblivious there. Mors Rattus posted:Because pipes look cool, but he will magically give it up with absolutely no problems with addiction or withdrawal later on due to magical surgery, because Mookie went vegan and got into health stuff. Also because Mookie got sick of drawing it, like his scarf and hat.
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It's also always worth noting how minor Luna's 'deformity' is. Especially in-universe. Like, yeah, IRL tusks on a human being would probably be really offputting. But in fantasy? I mean, like, people IRL fetishize Orcs. And your average female Orc, even when drawn with a traditionally feminine build and without muscles or whatever, still tends to have more non-human aspects than just tusks - green skin if nothing else. And like this is also a world where Orcs *exist*. Luna's issue should be less that people see her as hideous and treat her badly accordingly, and more that people associate her minor deformity with Orcish ancestry and because Callan is racist, treat her badly because she's Orc-spawn. Or he should have given her a more meaningful deformity. Or explored more the idea that her deformity is as minor as it seems to us and that Callan's upper classes are that petty and superficial.
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This doesn't really relate to the current conversation but I had to share it because it explains so much
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:It's also always worth noting how minor Luna's 'deformity' is. Especially in-universe. As FuegoFish said in his seminal work on the subject, Luna could just go to the loving alterist and get them replaced with caps if they bother her so much that she tries to kill herself multiple times because of them. Early on, before Mookie started doing colored Sunday issues, it's clear he hadn't figured out yet that orcs and humans can't interbreed. Later when this is codified, it makes the hicks in Lynn's Brook bullying Luna for being an orc make even less sense, since she is clearly not an orc. Luna refuses to get her teeth fixed though so Mookie can keep touting it as a "flaw" Rotten Red Rod posted:This doesn't really relate to the current conversation but I had to share it because it explains so much
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Aug 28, 2020 00:07
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Apparently the actions of a lawful good paladin include force feeding a demon their own eyeball or beating its head in with its own leg
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Those huge guts aren't going to rip and tear themselves. I have a very specific panel of cool ranch Deegan in mind when I say this. I suspect you and the other veterans know which one, but I won't spoil it. It too needs to be witnessed in its unforeshadowed glory when we get there.
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Regalingualius posted:Why was Hatsune chosen as the “aggressively enforce Death of the Author” default character? also, Minecraft is really the only thing this works with, because a: notch went off the rails after making the game, and B: the structure of minecraft means you can't really easily put your personal views into it like you can a thing with, uh, any dialogue whatsoever Rotten Red Rod posted:This doesn't really relate to the current conversation but I had to share it because it explains so much  And his alignment is True Angry.EDIT: oh god, i just realized... in DD terms? This means the Doom Slayer is an infernomancer Zereth fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Mors Rattus posted:Because pipes look cool, but he will magically give it up with absolutely no problems with addiction or withdrawal later on due to magical surgery, because Mookie went vegan and got into health stuff. If I remember correctly, a relative of his died from lung cancer and he didn’t want to have Dominic keep smoking which like - fair enough I feel.
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He also talked about how since he viewed Dominic as a role model (lol) he didn't want him modeling smoking for kids who read the comic. I really hope not a lot of kids read this comic.
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I can... kinda see where he's coming from, but again it's a rough guide, and if we're applying that onto him, his willingness to buck command structures giving unjust orders (rather than reforming them, he reformed his CO's face) and his, uh...Rotten Red Rod posted:Apparently the actions of a lawful good paladin include force feeding a demon their own eyeball or beating its head in with its own leg yeah, definitely points to a chaotic bent. At best, I'd say NG-CG. But given his somewhat monomaniacal focus on demon-slaying, I'd personally lean to CN. Just fighting evil doesn't make you good, after all. I mentioned it before, but man, his views on "Lawful Good" and his views on paladins are weird and more based on how a bad DM would apply the rules in a bizarre, haphazard way rather than any actual thought and introspection on what they mean. Like, I understand it sucks to critically examine yourself and your belief structures, but I have a hard time imagining not doing it, ever. Besides, Doomslayer's a berserker in the most classical sense, even down to getting a boost by getting hosed up on drugs. What do you think's in a berserk pack, Mookie? A bottle of holy water and some communion wafers?
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catlord posted:I mentioned it before, but man, his views on "Lawful Good" and his views on paladins are weird and more based on how a bad DM would apply the rules in a bizarre, haphazard way rather than any actual thought and introspection on what they mean. Like, I understand it sucks to critically examine yourself and your belief structures, but I have a hard time imagining not doing it, ever. Barbarians can't even be lawful. It's against the rules.
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Aug 28, 2020 00:43
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D&D alignments are a nerd brain infection that needs to be purged
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Oh, yeah, definitely. I was more drawing attention to the fact that even by his own chosen parameters of deeandee bullshit, his point doesn't make any sense than advocating that alignment is a good and cool thing to do if that was unclear Zereth posted:EDIT: oh god, i just realized... in DD terms? This means the Doom Slayer is an infernomancer
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catlord posted:Besides, Doomslayer's a berserker in the most classical sense, even down to getting a boost by getting hosed up on drugs. What do you think's in a berserk pack, Mookie? A bottle of holy water and some communion wafers? That'd be a hilarious holy berserker. A priest who uses holy water like Popeye uses spinach. Battlecry, obviously, would be "I kick rear end for the Lord!"
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catlord posted:I can... kinda see where he's coming from, but again it's a rough guide, and if we're applying that onto him, his willingness to buck command structures giving unjust orders (rather than reforming them, he reformed his CO's face) and his, uh... In the original games, Doomguy was put on the outpost as a punishment for beating the poo poo out of his superior who told him to fire on civilians (which is funny given Mookie's dislike of rebels). And in the second game he fights the demons specifically to let the rest of humanity get on the ships that will let them escape Earth which has been overrun, and willingly stays behind thinking he'll die. catlord posted:Besides, Doomslayer's a berserker in the most classical sense, even down to getting a boost by getting hosed up on drugs. What do you think's in a berserk pack, Mookie? A bottle of holy water and some communion wafers? Eh, honestly this is a D&D Alignment issue thing. Personally I feel like who and why you're fighting is a more important element of your character then how you're fighting.
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catlord posted:Besides, Doomslayer's a berserker in the most classical sense, even down to getting a boost by getting hosed up on drugs. What do you think's in a berserk pack, Mookie? A bottle of holy water and some communion wafers?
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Heliotrope posted:Eh, honestly this is a D&D Alignment issue thing. Personally I feel like who and why you're fighting is a more important element of your character then how you're fighting. I think if you’re going for the shining knight hero like Mookie does they should at least embody their virtues in their actions. After the chapter telling us how compassionate and loving Star Power is she defaults to cracking heads and trusting nobody. But she’s still the pinnacle of a Star Powered Sentinel since she’s always fighting objectively evil people. It’s like he defines heroes by the people they fight rather than the actions they take.
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Heliotrope posted:Eh, honestly this is a D&D Alignment issue thing. Personally I feel like who and why you're fighting is a more important element of your character then how you're fighting. That's more my criticising class choice than an alignment issue, but yeah. Rotten Red Rod posted:D&D alignments are a nerd brain infection that needs to be purged As I said, I think it works in the context of the game because it's a guide for roleplaying, but even there it has its limitations (often quite severe). Applying it outside of there, well... I expect it's a step in the development of a person's understanding the world, ethics, and morality. Most people (I would hope!) who apply the alignment grid to real life, should eventually realise that even 9 options is still limited, and grow beyond that. But... that requires introspection, and at least a bit of critical thinking. It's not a child's view on morality, but it's certainly not a fully developed world-view, if that makes sense? But yeah, ultimately, vv this Invisible Clergy posted:Oh, yeah, definitely. I was more drawing attention to the fact that even by his own chosen parameters of deeandee bullshit, his point doesn't make any sense than advocating that alignment is a good and cool thing to do if that was unclear Even within the confines of D&D, it's a stretch.
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I mean if you look at the alignment chart guidelines in the Player's Handbook, you'll see that Lawful Good is defined as "people I like".
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Invisible Clergy posted:As FuegoFish said in his seminal work on the subject, Luna could just go to the loving alterist and get them replaced with caps if they bother her so much that she tries to kill herself multiple times because of them. Iirc her mom took her to an alterist as a kid to have them removed but the alterist refused to do it because child Luna didn't hate having the tusks yet. When Luna got older and did want them to remove her mom wouldn't pay for an alterist again because she was bitter about it not being done the first time.
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