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The Great and Most Austere Breton Empire, Beloved by Amun-Ra, stretching from Ireland to Burma to Liberia.
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Gamerofthegame posted:tutorial ireland seems like a waste, just get to grips with things on your first life and then get going I want to conquer England as an Irish king at least one time
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Aug 28, 2020 02:52
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Yeah I'm going to do the tutorial on my first run most likely, with the goal of eventually forming Britannia and then maybe conquer France for good measure.
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Aug 28, 2020 02:59
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Ireland first, as is tradition, and then maybe something in Africa, as I didn't do anything with Africa in CKII, so might as well try something brand new!
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Aug 28, 2020 03:18
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Is it realistic to start as a like, low level ruler and eventually... CONQUER EVERYTHING!? Or is the timing too prohibitive and you’d have to start as a higher level ruler
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teacup posted:Is it realistic to start as a like, low level ruler and eventually... CONQUER EVERYTHING!? Or is the timing too prohibitive and you’d have to start as a higher level ruler Based on CK2, you'll have plenty of time to go from count to world conquest if you want
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teacup posted:Is it realistic to start as a like, low level ruler and eventually... CONQUER EVERYTHING!? Or is the timing too prohibitive and you’d have to start as a higher level ruler In my Holy Fury game I started as a count in Norway, and after a few hundred years had 90% of europe, most of africa, and half the middle east before I ran out of steam. Better players will probably do a lot more in that time. I haven't seen anyone do the complete map, but I'm sure it's feasible if you're crazy.
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I'm sure one of the meme youtubers will have a video out in less than a week after launch on how to conquer europe with 100 soldiers.
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Aug 28, 2020 04:00
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Wales or Iceland [not a typo] first for me, then definitely Africa. Very keen to see the expanded religion mechanics in practice and make my own faith. My friend and I are going to be on chat and play simultaneous single-player to compare notes before possibly going in with a multiplayer game. I am also going to try for the new fresh Kwisatz Haderach, if it's possible. Never managed the trifecta in 1000+ hours of CK2.
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Aug 28, 2020 04:40
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Losing my mind looking at this new religion system. Gonna make a Mutazilite heresy in Al-Andalus 
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Aug 28, 2020 05:06
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Swedish Horror posted:I'm sure one of the meme youtubers will have a video out in less than a week after launch on how to conquer europe with 100 soldiers. Since spiff sent me this I count this as him breaking the NDA 
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Aug 28, 2020 05:39
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Doltos posted:Since spiff sent me this I count this as him breaking the NDA  Goodstatist indeed.
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I am assuming the numerical scale is a tad different this time
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Aug 28, 2020 06:07
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Swedish Horror posted:Who is everyone planning to start as? Might do good ol' tutorial Ireland to get a feel for the new mechanics and then do a count in the HRE. If you do Ireland, play as the Norse count of Dublin in 867, it's a lot more fun than anyone else on the island. I'll probably start as Árpád, because event troops make everything easier when you're trying to figure out what the hell is going on.
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Doltos posted:Since spiff sent me this I count this as him breaking the NDA I'd like to say this is the result of stacked Fertility bonuses (that character no doubt has amazing fertility between Whole of Body + Fecund + possible bonuses from religion/dynasty) and the diplomacy perk Sound Foundations for +1 random skill per child, but it would be weird to get as far as Sound Foundations and not take Patriarch so I dunno. Unless he got Scholar/Whole of Body first and didn't go into Diplomacy lifestyle until later.  The Family tree has other potentials for crazy stats too, with the Befriend scheme and +2 random skills per friend.It looks like the mug/horn traits can be leveled up, I wonder if those are the results of holding many feasts/hunts? Since 1 candle is the Quick level 1 congenital trait I'd assume the big stack of candles is Genius. Magil Zeal fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 06:18
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Torrannor posted:I'm very optimistic about CK3. This is a real good post, except for the downside that it has increased my hype a lot and I am getting extremely impatient. The advice for the goon who asked about what makes the game click is good btw. My favourite CK2 games have almost all been stemming from having a plausible objective for my region, religion, etc., and role-playing according to traits and stuff. That's how you lean into the strength of the game, which is telling stories and RPing, and you end up 250 years later with a hatred for some rival dynasty that exceeds any hate you feel IRL and you take increasing drastic and self-sabotaging measures to loving end them until it gets into full Shakespearean Tragedy territory. The other thing to remember is outside of actually losing your last holding or dying without an heir a defeat is never a game over, and you will have a long long time to claw your way back to your rightful place. E; One of my favourite playthroughs was me starting as some absolute podunk count in Wales and working to unify Wales, gain influence in Ireland and Scotland, and curtail and roll back English power. By the end we had an empire of England and half of France, and dynasty members on the thrones of Jerusalem, Denmark, three or four Byzzie emperors before getting deposed, and rotating on and off the Spanish throne every few months because Iberia was absolutely unable to stabilise. But all of this was over the course of nearly a millennium, and each stage was a far smaller thing, with almost everything that was outside France and the Isles (and the Crusades) being the result of diplomacy, marriage, plots, etc.. Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 07:27
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I'm disappointed at the lack of puns in the achievement list.
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cKnoor posted:Wut? I'm not talking about the actual preview content Paradox have posted on their channel. What I find shady is sending review copies out to everyone and lifting the NDA a week early for a handpicked selection of amateur content creators who are guaranteed to be positive toward the game. It's been a trend with publishers lately, I believe Sony did something similar with the Last of Us 2. I think CK3 looks really good and I'm not worried that Paradox are trying to hide it or anything. I just find "Paradox is sharing the game with their biggest fans first!" to be a naive and overly generous read of what is essentially a publisher trying to turn games media into a casualised marketing force. Fat Samurai posted:I'm disappointed at the lack of puns in the achievement list. To be fair a lot of the pun/joke achievements in CK2 were an absolute chore if you actually attempted to complete them. Seems like they've put more thought into the achievements this time around, along with every other aspect of the game.
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Aug 28, 2020 08:13
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Whorelord posted:you have brain worms
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Doltos posted:Since spiff sent me this I count this as him breaking the NDA What the hell is going on here, drat.
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Guest posted:What I find shady is sending review copies out to everyone and lifting the NDA a week early for a handpicked selection of amateur content creators who are guaranteed to be positive toward the game. What do you think is the difference between a youtuber and a professional video game toucher?
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Doltos posted:Since spiff sent me this I count this as him breaking the NDA The Chad emperor.
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Ham posted:What the hell is going on here, drat. Spiff highlighted some of the traits that were like, +2 random stat points per friend and +1 random stat point per child so... I guess if you just stack that poo poo with fertility bonuses you can do some impressive stuff. Feels like this may need to be nerfed unless those stats give diminishing returns.
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teacup posted:Is it realistic to start as a like, low level ruler and eventually... CONQUER EVERYTHING!? Or is the timing too prohibitive and you’d have to start as a higher level ruler I know it's definitely been done and is possible, but I'm not sure how to do that besides conquering enough until you're strong enough to fight off everyone vassal above you on your own. I freely admit I know mostly jack poo poo when it comes to the marriage/inheritance game besides that giving claimants land before you fight for them gives you more land under your control. The Bold Kobold fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 09:10
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:What do you think is the difference between a youtuber and a professional video game toucher? Accountability, professional standards and practices, and being paid by a media outlet as opposed to a video games publisher. People on the internet think outlets like IGN etc. are all just paid shills but honestly not really. Especially in the last 10 years or so games journalism has gotten much better and become more of an established profession. Whereas youtube is basically the wild west and is much closer to the games journalism of old that everybody use to complain about and which gave the whole industry a bad reputation.
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Guest posted:Accountability, professional standards and practices, and being paid by a media outlet as opposed to a video games publisher. People on the internet think outlets like IGN etc. are all just paid shills but honestly not really. Especially in the last 10 years or so games journalism has gotten much better and become more of an established profession. Whereas youtube is basically the wild west and is much closer to the games journalism of old that everybody use to complain about and which gave the whole industry a bad reputation. You need to go away, homie.
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Aug 28, 2020 09:38
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Knuc U Kinte posted:You need to go away, homie. Please don't start doing this Discussion is fine and interesting, it gives us something to talk about to pass the time Guest's posts have been completely mild
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Guest posted:To be fair a lot of the pun/joke achievements in CK2 were an absolute chore if you actually attempted to complete them. Seems like they've put more thought into the achievements this time around, along with every other aspect of the game. They should have written better puns, then. I guess they didn't think to improve on that, eh?  The Bold Kobold posted:I know it's definitely been done and is possible, but I'm not sure how to do that besides conquering enough until you're strong enough to fight off everyone vassal above you on your own. At some point, faction shenanigans allowed you to kick the ruler of a Kingdom out and take their place if you were popular/powerful enough. That wasn't the only way to get a throne being a vassal by any stretch, but I've always found it the funniest.
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The idea of there being ethics in game journalism (or with Youtubers who rely even more on this kind of sponsorship) in 2020 when Rome: Imperator literally just happened a year ago is hilarious. Most of these CK2 videos are good because they're trying to put a funny spin on things and they're all trying to do old runs in the new system and showing it off. It works because CK2 genuinely looks like a good game and it's very familiar so I did pre-order a while ago. The roleplaying some of the Youtubers are doing is fun but I'm not so naive as to think they wouldn't be trying to do the same if they thought the game was bad. Every video is sponsored which means we're not getting independent reviews, we're getting scripted videos with terms made and possibly censored in some places. In fact the way PDX is doing this media push should be a warning sign because they're literally paying people directly this time around rather than just giving them the game early and letting them do honest reviews, good or bad.
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fuf posted:Please don't start doing this If I wanted to talk about ethics in video game journalism I’d be a fuckhead in a gamergate thread. This thread is for talking about crusader kings 3. Christ they gave a few nerdy you tubers some cash to do a clearly signposted advertisement for the game. What is there to discuss.
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Guest posted:Accountability, professional standards and practices, and being paid by a media outlet as opposed to a video games publisher. People on the internet think outlets like IGN etc. are all just paid shills but honestly not really. Especially in the last 10 years or so games journalism has gotten much better and become more of an established profession. Whereas youtube is basically the wild west and is much closer to the games journalism of old that everybody use to complain about and which gave the whole industry a bad reputation. There's no reason to believe that they were paid on condition that they said good things about it. These people were going to do CK3 videos regardless of whether they get paid, so all this does is direct marketing budget into funding content that I enjoy which sounds great to me. How is it different from the paradox streams? That is also footage of people being paid to play the game.
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Chalks posted:There's no reason to believe that they were paid on condition that they said good things about it. These people were going to do CK3 videos regardless of whether they get paid, so all this does is direct marketing budget into funding content that I enjoy which sounds great to me. It’s about ethics in video game journalism.
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Ye I'm going to stop posting about this because I pretty much agree with the people who don't want to derail the thread to have a conversation about ethics in games journalism. All I'm saying is don't applaud Paradox for paying a bunch of youtubers to make their game look awesome just because the game in question happens to be good this time around.
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Chalks posted:There's no reason to believe that they were paid on condition that they said good things about it. These people were going to do CK3 videos regardless of whether they get paid, so all this does is direct marketing budget into funding content that I enjoy which sounds great to me. Nah man come on, don't fall for this. These videos were totally different from the from the videos they would have made if they'd just been allowed to stream as normal. None of them said anything good or bad about it at all. They didn't even really talk about mechanics. Instead we got some amateur dramatics vignettes. Which is fine but definitely a very different thing.
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Guest posted:Ye I'm going to stop posting about this because I pretty much agree with the people who don't want to derail the thread to have a conversation about ethics in games journalism. All I'm saying is don't applaud Paradox for paying a bunch of youtubers to make their game look awesome just because the game in question happens to be good this time around. They are ads that show off the game People get excited for movie trailers gently caress it’s really not that hard
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fuf posted:Nah man come on, don't fall for this. These videos were totally different from the from the videos they would have made if they'd just been allowed to stream as normal. None of them said anything good or bad about it at all. They didn't even really talk about mechanics. Instead we got some amateur dramatics vignettes. Which is fine but definitely a very different thing. The only one who talked about mechanics was The Spiffing Brit and exploits are his thing so he probably got a special deal. It's safe to assume exploit that he abused will be fixed before or shortly after release and it was there for amusement, not to show the game as imbalanced.
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ilitarist posted:The only one who talked about mechanics was The Spiffing Brit and exploits are his thing so he probably got a special deal. It's safe to assume exploit that he abused will be fixed before or shortly after release and it was there for amusement, not to show the game as imbalanced. Trying to pin down what actually happened with that exploit where he was able to farm money/prestige by constantly divorcing and remarrying. I remember alimony being a thing in CK2. Did they get rid of it or did female rulers never have to pay it?
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Zedhe Khoja posted:This or the Isles. My ancestors were minor nobility on Skye (aka glorified peasants) and were probably norse-gaels (officially offshoots of the MacBeths, but this is pretty much a proven lie). i've been to skye heaps, this probably just meant that they had a slightly larger croft than most other people on skye
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Doltos posted:Since spiff sent me this I count this as him breaking the NDA those bedroom eyes on his wife
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