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Envisioned posted:NXT was helped so much too by taping a month at a time to lock them into storylines and prevent the week-to-week last minute changes that plague raw and SmackDown Taping 4 weeks at a time also meant that you’d only see someone wrestle once a month. It would be refreshing to see someone in action when you haven’t seen them in a month. Why the gently caress do I want to see Kayden Carter do nothing every single week?
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https://www.twitch.tv/stylesclash/clip/TastyPoliteGoldfishRickroll Not sure if this is common knowledge, but AJ Styles was one of the talent who tested positive for COVID-19 a month ago
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DogsInSpace! posted:In your defence I’m fairly sure time and space distort when it comes to watching WWE. Years from now scientists will discuss the phenomenon as akin to a black hole except far more suction. And it never ends. They tried to get one of the NJPW time distorters but got one that worked in reverse instead. StarkRavingMad posted:https://www.twitch.tv/stylesclash/clip/TastyPoliteGoldfishRickroll Why am I not surprised in the slightest?
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Cerebral Bore posted:Why am I not surprised in the slightest? Seriously. I hadn't thought about it, but I'd probably have been surprised if he WASN'T one of the people who tested positive.
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Kvantum posted:This is on TV, not including Takeovers. Ah that makes sense
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Sep 3, 2020 08:28
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I bet he still doesn't believe COVID is real
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Abroham Lincoln posted:of course he believes it's real, he's all about trying to flatten the curve. 
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Abroham Lincoln posted:of course he believes it's real, he's all about trying to flatten the curve. Oh gently caress
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Sep 3, 2020 09:25
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When Miz showed up sick, (which is an arsehole move even not in pandemic times), was he sick with COVID-19, or just with a cold?
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Abroham Lincoln posted:of course he believes it's real, he's all about trying to flatten the curve.  I hope some how, some way Daniel Bryan tweets that, or says it to him on tv.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:of course he believes it's real, he's all about trying to flatten the curve. a good post
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Sep 3, 2020 09:54
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CarlCX posted:They never reconciled NXT as a brand you should care about with NXT's identity as a secondary league where your primary goal is to leave, and that has only become a progressively worse condition. See, the NXT goons love is helped by two things, maybe three if the taping thing is legit: You didn't have to do all the work to establish your stars, and people moved on so your stories could end. It was a feeder league and that was good for what goons like. They like recognizing stars from the indies and NJPW and they also like stories that begin and end. So the moment we entered this era NXT was hosed. They can't make stars, they definitely can't make babyfaces and they honestly can't train for poo poo either so there's never going to be that active flow that made the stories work. NXT cheated to be successful. Assuming it ever was. Up until this era it was a huge money sink. HHH got addicted to putting on a show that people liked but I don't think it was accomplishing any meaningful goals. But I agree with you beyond that, adding on additionally NXT now feels less like the development league and more like scraps Vince doesn't care about. It went from feeling B-tier to Z-tier. Not only does it not feel like your time in NXT matters, it feels like stars he's done with can be shoved back down. So why watch the show?
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Abroham Lincoln posted:of course he believes it's real, he's all about trying to flatten the curve. haha
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Thunder Rosa told Fightful that WWE were only interested in using her as a referee
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Rarity posted:Thunder Rosa told Fightful that WWE were only interested in using her as a referee Lmao. WWE just put a call out for female referees or non wrestlers.
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I wonder how someone like Rusev feels to get fired "because of COVID-19" and then watch as WWE specifically hires two people named in #SpeakingOut
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I wonder how someone like Rusev feels to get fired "because of COVID-19" and then watch as WWE specifically hires two people named in #SpeakingOut "boy i sure do love having sex with my wife lana and streaming video games on twitch all day instead of working for an insane billionaire"
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Dave Meltzer on house shows posted:What I heard was that WWE was thinking about cutting everything way back — even when things go back to normal, cutting way, way back on live shows. I don’t know if they’ll eliminate them completely. I don’t know if they’ll totally eliminate house shows, but the idea I think of four days a week doing house shows for maybe forever at least for WWE and AEW will never do that schedule anyway. I think it’s a different world it’s gonna be… you know the Japanese groups may do it, but I think it’ll be a big event business and not a rank and file house show business going forward. Dave Meltzer on NXT posted:I know that a couple of months ago there was a meeting with Vince to discuss this very issue, and at the meeting I mean it was like ‘move to another day we’ll have better viewership and a bigger audience.’ On that day it was shut down for all the obvious reasons that, you know, what was it put on TV in the first place for?
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Touring the country and doing shows you don’t televise is insane in the modern world, even without Covid. It’s based on an era of wrestling where people can’t get the show if they’re not watching it live. It’s where wrestlers have all these injuries and contributes to bad relationships because they get to see their kids twice a week max.
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Golden Bee posted:Touring the country and doing shows you don’t televise is insane in the modern world, even without Covid. It’s based on an era of wrestling where people can’t get the show if they’re not watching it live. It’s where wrestlers have all these injuries and contributes to bad relationships because they get to see their kids twice a week max. It's not crazy if you can make money at it and WWE was making money at it just 18 months ago. From buying up all the talent they can they could even fill out house show cards while giving wrestlers 3 months off house shows per year! Works in every country but this one too.
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It's a weird situation. Honestly it would be cooler if they pursued smaller venues for house shows. Whenever they would come to Dallas it was always at the American Airlines Center. Nothing wrong with that for live shows and PPVs, but they really should have explored smaller venues while touring. Keep ticket prices cheap, give fans a more initimate and close up show, and you never know what kinds of fans you can create that way. It just seems stupid to force larger venues for not nearly as big of a crowd, even when they didnt have competition.
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Sep 3, 2020 17:41
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If NXT was on TV to succeed it would have taken over the Smackdown slot. There’s literally no justification otherwise. I know I’m preaching to the choir but NXT could have held onto at the very least 1 million out of Smackdown’s 1.8 million viewership, if not more, if it was a straight up time slot replacement
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Sep 3, 2020 18:12
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The coolest WWE show I went to was an NXT house show at a large (5000 capacity) club. I got tickets in the balcony overhanging the ring, and there was a big ringside standing room only section.
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Rarity posted:Thunder Rosa told Fightful that WWE were only interested in using her as a referee lol jesus. its not like wwe needs to hoover up more top women in wrestling but way to ensure a potential star will never ever want to work for you.
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Sep 3, 2020 18:18
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I had kayfabe killed because of a WWF house show. The main event for the show was Sgt. Slaughter w/Sensational Sherri vs Ultimate Warrior in a steel cage for the WWF World Title. The finish of the match is Slaughter is almost out of cage but Warrior has him by what little hair he had left. Sherri runs in and nails Warrior with her loaded purse causing Warrior to drop Slaughter and lose the match. Slaughter runs to the back and Sherri is still in the cage with a pissed off Warrior so to send the crowd home happy Warrior rips off Sherri's dress and humiliates her. Anyway year or two later I get to rent one of the WWF Coliseum Home Videos. The big featured bout is Ultimate Warrior vs Macho King in a steel cage match. Which you guessed it is basically spot for spot the same match as the one from the house show I went to. I was already on the fence about how real WWF was after they had edited out the boos from Hogan costing Sid Justice the '92 Rumble but that video was the final straw.
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The thing that suck about no house shows is that going to Raw or Smackdown is painful to sit through. I decided never to do it again after going to Raw in Chicago and there was 45 minutes in the 3rd hour where the only in ring action was 2 minutes of a match that ended in a DQ. Everyone was sitting there bored out of their mind, and had to sit through loving Seth Rollins rehab videos and packages of that Rollins/Triple H match because neither of them was there. And I was like .... never again am I doing this. You buy the ticket with nothing advertised until the day of, and it's just disappointment. Thankfully, Chicago gets PPVs regularly, we we were lucky enough to get 2 AEW PPVs and a Dynamite before COVID happened. But if you live in some small market, you're just never going to get to see a good wrestling show live. If you're on a budget, you'll never get cheap floor seats or ringside tickets for a live event. Now that all said, gently caress it, kill off the house shows because it's still not worth it for the wrestlers health and wellbeing for what they are paid. They should honestly just go back to how it was in the 90's and tape two weeks of shows back to back. Raw on Mon/Tues, NXT on Wed/Thur, SD on Fri/Sat. Everyone gets 12 days off between shows
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I haven’t been to a WWE show in over 10 years. They were supposed to come here back in April but that got cancelled. I might have gone just because it really is my only opportunity to see guys like Cesaro or Bryan live.
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Some of my favorite live sports events growing up were Raw/SmackDown tapings, but that was in the late 90s/early aughts and couldn’t imagine sitting through the current product in an arena. I could see how a PPV/Takeover would still be an enjoyable live experience now though.
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Sep 3, 2020 18:55
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Most recent WWE show I went to was the first Brooklyn Takeover in 2015 and I'm fine with that being the last time I see anything from them in person.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Most recent WWE show I went to was the first Brooklyn Takeover in 2015 and I'm fine with that being the last time I see anything from them in person. Mine was Over The Limit 2010, and, uh, same.
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Sep 3, 2020 19:16
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Mine was Over The Limit 2010, and, uh, same. wow that is uhhh quite a card
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Sep 3, 2020 19:18
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I was at the 2014 Royal Rumble, the one Batista won while everybody booed. At the time it was one of the worst experiences of my life. Tickets were like $65 for okay-ish seats and I just remember being so pissed off at the end that it felt like I threw all that money away. That was my last WWE live event, and it looks like Pittsburgh hosted amazing PPV matches such as: Rusev beating Big Cass by countout Kevin Owens retaining his title via DQ against Roman Reigns Carmella beating Asuka while James Ellsworth was in a shark cage Ziggler vs Rollins in a 30 minute Iron Man match So I think I made the right decision.
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I went to a Smackdown in 2004, which was pretty bad but the dark main had Rey, Eddie, Taker, Batista, JBL, and Angle all in a tag match (i forget the arrangement), then I've been to like 3 house shows since. I like house shows more. Less downtime.
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The only wwe show I ever went to was when I was 5 or 6 in the very early 90s and I got to see a Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels match. The only thing I remember about it was that Bret won and I was very happy. I'm sure the rest of the card was terrible because I remember nothing else about it.
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Sep 3, 2020 19:47
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Heh. My final two WWE shows were Judgment Day 2001 and the following day’s RAW. I have no complaints.
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The wrestlers really like doing house shows. That's when they can have fun. Which as well know is what they're here for.
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I was at Wrestlemania 25, 28, and 32. 25 was above average, 28 was a gamechanger (even with some poo poo matches, i remember the show fondly), and 32 I took a poo poo during the HHH/Roman main event and it was the 2nd best part of the night aside from Zack Ryder winning. Was at the fabled Hell in the Cell PPV where Dean Ambrose died to a hologram of a little girl, I think. So that's....1 and a half out of 4 major shows that were turds. And all of em were before the times we're living in now, where those angles from those shows would be welcomed at this point. More house shows, less PPVs, let wrestlers goof off when they're not on camera
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