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Watched Final Wars for the first time in a decade tonight. Hoo boy, that movie is the weirdest end cap for an era. The costume work is arguably the best there ever was and the CGI was... there. I have to say, I remember it being over the top, but I don't remember it being so self aware (The UN guy showing up again and just saying, "I escaped somehow.") I don't really know how to articulate how I feel about it. It's more of a love letter to the Showa era than anything else, so it's supremely dumb, but all the monsters get to have slightly more distinct personalities than usual. The only thing that actually annoyed me was how bleached out a lot of the scenes looked.
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Burkion posted:What movie is giving you issues? I can make a short list of the best of the Showa era Not any one specific one I went with Destroy all Monsters but just couldn't get into it. I've tried a few of the films and could put them on but just couldn't get into any of them.
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Hollismason posted:Not any one specific one I went with Destroy all Monsters but just couldn't get into it. I've tried a few of the films and could put them on but just couldn't get into any of them. The best films of this era outside of the original are Mothra VS Godzilla 1964, Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster, though interestingly enough the dubs of both are arguably better due to pacing and additional scenes in the former's case. Monster Zero is excellent if you want some 1960s sci-fi, otherwise eh. DAM is inarguably a rough pill to try and swallow. VS Hedorah is great if you want the most 1970s drug scene Godzilla film ever made and then you have 1974 Godzilla VS MechaGodzilla for pure super hero Godzilla goodness with a surprisingly brutal streak. Terror of MG isn't my favorite but it's a good final ride for Honda.
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Sep 3, 2020 17:54
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Cut DAM down to 75 minutes and there's a good movie. My only issue was the pacing.
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Hollismason posted:Not any one specific one I went with Destroy all Monsters but just couldn't get into it. I've tried a few of the films and could put them on but just couldn't get into any of them. My preferred order of watching is the original Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, Mothra vs Godzilla and finally Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster. That way you get to start with watching Honda try out the different approaches to the giant monster genre before it's all brought together in a way that feels grand. People aren't kidding when they compare the MCU to Godzilla, and Ghidorah is it's Avengers-moment. After that you're in for a bumpy ride, with Ebirah being the only one that stands out to me as incredibly entertaining. Vs Mechagodzilla is a weird case where I think the concept is cool, but everything it does is done better by Terror of Mechagodzilla. Still, you can't have one without the other, so... Watch the rest in any order you like. I wouldn't start with Godzilla Raids Again, because it's a hard shift from the 1954 film, but it fits in neatly between Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla because it's such a tonal difference. If you still want more, I would recommend VS King Kong, too. The rest is wholely up to preference.
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Sep 4, 2020 01:47
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Biff Rockgroin posted:Watched Final Wars for the first time in a decade tonight. I secretly mark out every time I've watched Don "The Predator" Frye say "There's two things you don't about the Earth: one of them's Godzilla. The other one's me."
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Sep 5, 2020 20:07
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Sobatchja Morda posted:Vs Mechagodzilla is a weird case where I think the concept is cool, but everything it does is done better by Terror of Mechagodzilla. Still, you can't have one without the other, so... You better not be talking poo poo about my boy King Caesar...
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Sep 5, 2020 20:50
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Vs MechaGodzilla is worth watching first just so the gag in Terror of MechaGodzilla where Godzilla rips of MechaGodzilla's head only to discover a second, smaller head underneath, is properly set up by that tactic working in the previous film.
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robot roll call posted:You better not be talking poo poo about my boy King Caesar... Nah, King Ceasar is fun. It's the aliens and the human plot that I just find super boring.
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Sep 6, 2020 19:15
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I always forget that it's like a whole musical number to wake up King Caesar.
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Sep 6, 2020 23:28
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Dawgstar posted:I always forget that it's like a whole musical number to wake up King Caesar. yeah i just had the song blast into my head again when i read his name. some real lamb chop poo poo. comets about to do a marathon again. girlfriends out of town again. cant wait.
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Sep 7, 2020 05:53
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Dawgstar posted:I always forget that it's like a whole musical number to wake up King Caesar. And he instantly eats poo poo, too. He gets his rear end kicked almost as bad as Anguirus did earlier in the movie. It's amazingly mean-spirited. God, I love that movie.
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Sep 7, 2020 10:02
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Desumaytah posted:And he instantly eats poo poo, too. He gets his rear end kicked almost as bad as Anguirus did earlier in the movie. It's amazingly mean-spirited. God, I love that movie. Speaking of Anguirus, he may be one of my favourite support characters but he gets done dirty. Every. Time. Is he just that low on the list of favorites, or is it just a running joke?
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Sep 7, 2020 10:43
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Think it's a bit of a running joke. Over the course of the Showa series he gets his throat torn out, cremated, lifted hundreds of feet into the air and dropped, his eye buzzsawed out and his jaw broken. But maybe that's his appeal, he doesn't have any superpowers or rays, he's a little dopey looking with a mournful roar. But he's always up for it, doesn't back down and most importantly tries his best. We could all learn from Anguirus.
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Sep 7, 2020 12:34
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Anguirus is cool because he crawls on his weird human knees and his tail is just this endlessly spiny piece of poo poo that he definitely had to hurt his soul to wag. He didn't get a breath weapon or anything, he was just this poor broken bit of of nature with an admittedly cool spiky shell saddled with just every goddamn disadvantage a giant monster could have in a world of other giant monsters. He had the brain of a Canada Goose or a honey badger though so just gently caress you, just absolutely gently caress you. Like the T Rex from the first King Kong was reincarnated to fight an even more bullshit monster but just decided to run with it.
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Sep 7, 2020 19:50
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What movie does he and Godzilla talk in? I don’t suppose that English dub made it in to the Criterion set...
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Sep 7, 2020 20:30
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david_a posted:What movie does he and Godzilla talk in? I don’t suppose that English dub made it in to the Criterion set... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJMDyWH_ZmE
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Sep 7, 2020 20:41
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david_a posted:What movie does he and Godzilla talk in? I don’t suppose that English dub made it in to the Criterion set... Yes, that's in Gigan, and no, the dub didn't make it.
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Sep 7, 2020 22:10
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Is that the Godzilla where Godzilla talks but they have the speech bubbles for what he's saying. Cause I watched that one.
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Sep 7, 2020 22:33
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Hollismason posted:Is that the Godzilla where Godzilla talks but they have the speech bubbles for what he's saying. Cause I watched that one. Yes, the Japanese version used sort of record-scratching for the monster voices with the speech bubbles. The English dubs used distorted but (mostly) comprehensible voices.
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Sep 7, 2020 22:47
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Desumaytah posted:Anguirus is cool because he crawls on his weird human knees and his tail is just this endlessly spiny piece of poo poo that he definitely had to hurt his soul to wag. He didn't get a breath weapon or anything, he was just this poor broken bit of of nature with an admittedly cool spiky shell saddled with just every goddamn disadvantage a giant monster could have in a world of other giant monsters. He had the brain of a Canada Goose or a honey badger though so just gently caress you, just absolutely gently caress you. Like the T Rex from the first King Kong was reincarnated to fight an even more bullshit monster but just decided to run with it. It's been said in here before, but Anguirus is to Godzilla is what Krillin is to Goku
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Desumaytah posted:Anguirus is cool because he crawls on his weird human knees and his tail is just this endlessly spiny piece of poo poo that he definitely had to hurt his soul to wag. He didn't get a breath weapon or anything, he was just this poor broken bit of of nature with an admittedly cool spiky shell saddled with just every goddamn disadvantage a giant monster could have in a world of other giant monsters. He had the brain of a Canada Goose or a honey badger though so just gently caress you, just absolutely gently caress you. Like the T Rex from the first King Kong was reincarnated to fight an even more bullshit monster but just decided to run with it. There is something special about the way he fights. Like, sure, biting onto one of Ghidorah's necks will probably end badly when the Three-Headed Monster takes off to the skies but he don't care. If you told Anguirus 'good luck' he would tell you 'never had it, don't need it.' (In record scratch speech bubbles.) I liked there was clearly a fan of the 'little' guy on Final Wars, giving him his video game death roll attack and letting him wreck a lot of stuff before being wrecked by Godzilla (if at least not killed).
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SnakesRevenge posted:It's been said in here before, but Anguirus is to Godzilla is what Krillin is to Goku Hey now krillin got to kill...like maybe a saiyaman that one time? I'm pretty sure he killed something once
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Ironic how Ryuhei Kitamura, a director of violent movies, was instructed by Toho not to include blood in Final Wars with younger views in mind despite the fact that Kitamura wanted to pay homage to the 70s era Godzilla films which had the most blood in the series* and were for kids then again, Destroyah slicing up G, Biollante getting blown to bits, and G eating Battra's neck might put that into question Mokelumne Trekka fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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SnakesRevenge posted:It's been said in here before, but Anguirus is to Godzilla is what Krillin is to Goku They cut to the chase in KOTM and just had him dead in his only appearance.
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The Golden Gael posted:They cut to the chase in KOTM and just had him dead in his only appearance. Angiras was busy filming Rampage so they just made a double for that scene.
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Angurius rules, don't hate my spikey boy.
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Thinking about doing this with my room https://twitter.com/mothra1224/status/1302553039748780034?s=20
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I'm the one Godzilla facing into the corner like I'm captured by the Blair Witch.
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Sep 11, 2020 19:43
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Gripweed posted:Thinking about doing this with my room At least it's not a creepy shrine to the Mothra Twins. Anywho, was the Arrow Gamera box set super limited edition or something? It's sold out everywhere and is going for crazy prices on the secondary market. I'd love to get one, but not for $400.
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SnakesRevenge posted:It's been said in here before, but Anguirus is to Godzilla is what Krillin is to Goku Angurius shall marry mechagodzilla 2
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Shiftypenguin posted:Anywho, was the Arrow Gamera box set super limited edition or something? It's sold out everywhere and is going for crazy prices on the secondary market. I'd love to get one, but not for $400. I think the big box is sold out but I've heard they plan on releasing a regular edition soon as well.
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Biff Rockgroin posted:I think the big box is sold out but I've heard they plan on releasing a regular edition soon as well. Cool. I'll have to keep an eye out for it.
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Austin continues to have a kaiju infestation -- this time it's the 1933 King Kong on top of downtown's Frost Bank tower: I've kinda committed to the series and have... four more to go? 
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King Chonk? Now I feel I missed an opportunity to get really creative.
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Fondly remembering that time Angurius got murdered by Mechagodzilla and is never seen again until the Millenium era.
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W E L P https://twitter.com/vintagehenshin/status/1308615677188636673?s=21
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You know no one was talking about the racist poo poo in KKVSGodzilla seriously before this why the gently caress would you Goddamnit Like yeah, anyone with half a brain would go yikes to the brown and black face in that movie, but it's also a Japanese movie from the 60s. It's a cringe and move on kind of situation because its not like its as racially charged as it would be if Americans or UK dipshits did it. Most people understand that- they also don't need to defend the dumb thing that Toho is probably hoping people continue ignoring. It's like the yellow face in Doctor Who, the polite thing is to loving not say anything except condemn it for what it was.
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I was talking about it and it sucks, like the movie.
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