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this show has maybe the biggest disparity between sfx shots -> practical shots ive ever seen on tv. all the big sfx shots look absolutely incredible and everythibg else looks like star trek tos with harsher color grading. if the story sticks the landing that might work out all right but i have a feeling the story is going to waste most of the season on boring melodrama
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steinrokkan posted:Well just tell her she sucks and is wrong. I tired that already with Banshee. Didn't work.
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Sep 6, 2020 21:52
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I love the weird 1960/70s sci-fi vibe in this, like Barbarella or Zardoz. Super minimalist and a dollop of surrealism.
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I was wondering how they made Father/Mother’s suits seamless. Do they shoot with suits with back or front openings depending on the shot to hide them or are they just insanely stretchy rubbery stuff they use talc to get in?? They definitely look like what androids would wear, though.
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Sep 7, 2020 02:16
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I assume they're just on the back and any time they would be shown they're just digitally erased.
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Sep 7, 2020 04:34
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Neck-entry latex suits are a thing that exists, and work just like it sounds. All the anecdotes I can find from on-set are that the suits were exactly as much of a nightmare to wear as you are imagining they would be.
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Sep 7, 2020 04:49
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Neck-entry latex suits are a thing that exists, and work just like it sounds. Man I can't imagine how sweaty that'd get 
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I don't know about this whole thing and trying to read into the allegory, perhaps I'll be proven wrong but it felt to me like this whole thing was actually devoid of subtext and irony, the theists are bad and the atheists are good, everything is at face value, the mom bot appeared as brutal and irrational but so far she's been vindicated in that everything she did was proven right, even the opening monologue spells it clearly, heck the space theists are even space pedophiles like the whole 'religious organizations are actually bad and hypocritical' thing wasn't already obvious enough. The fact that we finally have a show that shits on religion is subversion enough in itself
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Collapsing Farts posted:The fact that we finally have a show that shits on religion is subversion enough in itself It’s a 100% going to end with just the children left and them worshiping the androids as gods.
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Sep 7, 2020 14:03
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it's gonna end when David from Prometheus/Covenant finds the planet and releases his horde of xenomorphs to gobble everyone up
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Sep 7, 2020 14:09
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priznat posted:Man I can't imagine how sweaty that'd get The actress who plays Mother said that after a few hours of shooting her feet would be squishy water balloons because all the sweat trickled down as she moved. I'm always fascinated by these reverse magic tricks in life, like the latex suits, where the question of "how could they possibly do X?" is "They just did it and it really, really sucked." It's like how the trick to circus sword swallowing is that you just swallow a loving sword.
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Ethiser posted:It’s a 100% going to end with just the children left and them worshiping the androids as gods. Maybe this is a horizon zero dawn prequel
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Sep 7, 2020 18:59
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Ethiser posted:It’s a 100% going to end with just the children left and them worshiping the androids as gods.
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Sep 7, 2020 19:51
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The giant lizards will come back and the show will be about them through season 2-7
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Sep 7, 2020 20:00
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This is a weird mix of cliche plot points (e.g. a vehicle precariously balanced on the edge of a fall; the kid losing his pet and getting separated from the group) and a bonkers blend of ideas from other movies and media (androids from Alien; a Star Trek search party one step removed from the knights in Monthy Python and the Holy Grail) and I can't tell if it really works. Episode 3 wasn't all that compelling but I'm just barely interested enough in the show so far to watch another episode when it drops.
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Eason the Fifth posted:This is a weird mix of cliche plot points (e.g. a vehicle precariously balanced on the edge of a fall; the kid losing his pet and getting separated from the group) and a bonkers blend of ideas from other movies and media (androids from Alien; a Star Trek search party one step removed from the knights in Monthy Python and the Holy Grail) and I can't tell if it really works. Episode 3 wasn't all that compelling but I'm just barely interested enough in the show so far to watch another episode when it drops. As long as the show continues to have really weird lore/worldbuilding, I'm in. If it just devolves to petty back and forth conflict, then who cares, right? What's distinct about it anymore?
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JazzFlight posted:As long as the show continues to have really weird lore/worldbuilding, Yeah honestly that's the draw for me. There's SO MANY weird decisions Why DO the outfits look like that? The Atheists are wearing cone hats and alt-history WWI/Medieval gear in Boston 2145, and then there's the literal Crusaders Why are the flying sonic-scream death lady robots called Necromancers and not, hmm, Banshees? Did they pick a name out of a hat Why did she howl like a wolf besides an awkward tie-in to the name of the show? Why do her eyes control her transformation so she wears them around her neck in a ballsack? Edit: oh yeah the Dickensian atheist child soldier part made me laugh I know the answers to almost all of these are Ridley Scott and they're just there to be weird. Any explanation would be unsatisfying And yeah fuckin' lol at the Ep 3 'cliffhanger'. It's so weak for one of these high-budget shows that it made me audibly laugh The weird parts are so weird that I was bored as hell by the standard plot beats and brown palette segments but I'm going to keep up with the show... Victis fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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Sep 8, 2020 02:13
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Victis posted:Why did she howl like a wolf besides an awkward tie-in to the name of the show? That poo poo was very funny to me in ep1
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Sep 8, 2020 03:01
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What was so permanently damaged about Earth they have to leave? It looked just like regular shithole dystopian city #95. Do they ever mention it? The future templars created the necrobots but just for some reason didnt bother to take any with them on their arc to defend their new planet?
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banned from Starbucks posted:What was so permanently damaged about Earth they have to leave? It looked just like regular shithole dystopian city #95. Do they ever mention it? The future templars created the necrobots but just for some reason didnt bother to take any with them on their arc to defend their new planet? All those goddamn necromancers flying around shrieking at people
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Sep 8, 2020 05:20
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Looked like a whole buncha nukes went off too which doesn't help with the habitable part. Yeah it's weird they have the track star androids with them but not the scream queens, which you'd figure you'd bring one or two along to go to an alien planet.
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Sep 8, 2020 07:18
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Maybe the screamy robots were too dangerous so they got left behind. But whoops, now there's a screamy robot and you're hosed
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Sep 8, 2020 07:36
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Now the doggos rule the earth, hope they can do a better job.
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banned from Starbucks posted:What was so permanently damaged about Earth they have to leave? It looked just like regular shithole dystopian city #95. Do they ever mention it? The future templars created the necrobots but just for some reason didnt bother to take any with them on their arc to defend their new planet? In the opening credits there’s a montage of a bunch of nukes going off and I think there was a title card early on that alluded to it. I could see the necromancers being deemed by the religious as unholy or OP or something to that effect, like how crossbows were prohibited by the Pope at one point. Or maybe (which I think would be fitting given that this is from Ridley Scott and he’s all about examining android’s sentience and the moral implications of them for humanity and themselves among other themes), they were deemed too unreliable and dangerous to employ them, Mother being a good example.
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sticksy posted:In the opening credits there’s a montage of a bunch of nukes going off and I think there was a title card early on that alluded to it.
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I will say the necromancer flying and screaming is terrifying in a very weird way. Very well done. I said it in the westworld thread and I’ll say it here too: Ridley Scott is absolutely convinced that robots are filled with milk, isn’t he? Relatedly: I wonder if this will tie into Alien at all? Doubly relatedly: when the religious people were examining their wrecked ship and that one guy discovers the vat of milk and just screams “MILK!!” at the top of his lungs I literally laughed out loud.
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sticksy posted:In the opening credits there’s a montage of a bunch of nukes going off and I think there was a title card early on that alluded to it. But the necros were the weapon of the religious?
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Androids apparently start to behave erratically/starts to malfunctioning after long periods of time, so, maybe, loading your ship with them to take on a long trip is not advisable. Kinda like bringing a bunch of nukes that could explode at any time. The other androids are not that potentially dangerous.
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Sep 8, 2020 23:13
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This show is so freaking bizarre and I am not at all surprised that the creator wrote Prisoners, which was also full of strangeness
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Relatedly: I wonder if this will tie into Alien at all? I doubt it. Only way it would fit is if they set it wayyy after Alien: Resurrection since Earth is still around at that point and the shows tech is much more ahead of anything in the Alien movies.
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Sep 9, 2020 01:01
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Sep 9, 2020 03:12
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I really like how this whole show is about Ridley Scott's trademark that he puts into every movie: Mother. (See "Let me tell you about my mother" in Blade Runner, the name of the computer in Alien, etc. etc.)
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Doubly relatedly: when the religious people were examining their wrecked ship and that one guy discovers the vat of milk and just screams “MILK!!” at the top of his lungs I literally laughed out loud. Yeah lol what the gently caress was that, "PIPE MILK OVER HERE GUYS." Looked like some piece of debris filled with milk. Dude was being super wasteful with that poo poo too he would've been kicked off the keg immediately. It seems like Mother's weapon is sonic/sound-related yes? As she literally has to shriek every time to disintegrate someone, and you can see the waves coming out of her when she screams. But she also tells the girl/Campion "don't look at me" so I was kind of confused about what looking at her would do, if she can still direct a force at you that will evaporate you whether looking at her or not. knox fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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Sep 10, 2020 05:19
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What kind of milk stays good after 13 years or whatever it was?!? That was my first reaction to that 
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Only seen episode 1, loved it. I really don't think the atheism side is being presented as obviously good; Mother is sorta "proven right" in a sense but she's also indoctrinating Campion with blatant hypocrisy. She tells him to never let his mind find comfort in fantasy but her following her own insane fantasies is what leads to her rediscovering her power. Also she literally shapes her face and voice into lies in order to comfort her son. I'm not saying these things are wrong, but it seems clear that the teachings contained in her programming are terrible, and whether she ultimately is good or evil seems fairly separate from which side she came from.
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I could see how it’s divisive but imo this show owns bones. I’m loving it so far. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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Sep 10, 2020 05:53
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I wish they would drop 3 episodes at a time instead of this once a week bullshit now! (Also The Boys Season 2) 
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priznat posted:What kind of milk stays good after 13 years or whatever it was?!? That was my first reaction to that Given how fast and loose this show plays with technology I just figured it was some synthetic milk with an endless shelf life. IDG how the mother screams people into giblets either but it’s cool, so hey.
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Martman posted:Only seen episode 1, loved it. I really don't think the atheism side is being presented as obviously good; Mother is sorta "proven right" in a sense but she's also indoctrinating Campion with blatant hypocrisy. She tells him to never let his mind find comfort in fantasy but her following her own insane fantasies is what leads to her rediscovering her power. Also she literally shapes her face and voice into lies in order to comfort her son. I mean, she also named herself Lamia, which was a monster that ate children. I'm thinking this Mother character might be a bit of a dick.
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veni veni veni posted:Given how fast and loose this show plays with technology I just figured it was some synthetic milk with an endless shelf life. I'm just mad cuz I'm always stocking up on milk and I want some of their supermilk (along with the hexapod containment)
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