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They must be paying out of their rear end to insure these projects
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# ? Sep 7, 2020 09:13 |
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I think that's the reason Cruise's been an executive producer since 2 or 3, he wanted to a do a bunch of near uninsurable poo poo so he just pays it himself
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# ? Sep 7, 2020 09:22 |
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I’m still convinced Tom Cruise wants to die on camera. Wasn’t he supposed to film in space for one of these new M:I movies?
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# ? Sep 7, 2020 09:24 |
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Mission Impossible 10 Tom Cruise jumps into a dumpster full of infected needles and biowaste and rolls around for a few minutes
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# ? Sep 7, 2020 09:44 |
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Gonz posted:I’m still convinced Tom Cruise wants to die on camera. That’s how you get to OT IX. AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Sep 7, 2020 |
# ? Sep 7, 2020 11:39 |
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Fight scene filmed realtime on a Euthanasia Coaster.
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# ? Sep 7, 2020 12:57 |
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Gonz posted:I’m still convinced Tom Cruise wants to die on camera. No, the space thing is an unrelated movie. Although he is making it with basically the same people.
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# ? Sep 7, 2020 14:27 |
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muscles like this! posted:No, the space thing is an unrelated movie. Although he is making it with basically the same people. Gravity 2: Tom Cruise Fights All The Space Junk.
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# ? Sep 7, 2020 14:34 |
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Is there another series that's kept up its quality this many sequels in? poo poo the last two might be the best ones.
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# ? Sep 7, 2020 15:44 |
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You sometimes get that on horror franchises. I'm of the opinion that all of the Friday the 13th movies are pretty bad but watchable at an equal level, and someone could probably tell me any one of them is their favorite of the franchise without me batting an eye, except maybe the boat one. By all accounts the Child's Play/Chucky movies have all kinda been great?
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 04:24 |
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The Chucky movies are definitely bad, but after a certain point they got super camp and kinda fun to watch. Even the reboot, while fairly generic for most of the runtime, has its moments of genuinely entertaining schlock.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 05:09 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:You sometimes get that on horror franchises. I'm of the opinion that all of the Friday the 13th movies are pretty bad but watchable at an equal level, and someone could probably tell me any one of them is their favorite of the franchise without me batting an eye, except maybe the boat one. By all accounts the Child's Play/Chucky movies have all kinda been great? Friday Part 6
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 05:13 |
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The first Child's Play is a solid horror flick, can't speak to the sequels or remake.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 05:54 |
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I think the Child's Play films are largely pretty good. Child's Play is a pretty solid film, with a fun concept and some pretty cool moments /effects. Child's Play 2 is a little less focused but has one hell of a cool climax. Child's Play 3 is, granted, pretty bad but still has some fun stuff (again, with a rad climax). Bride of Chucky is great, just so much fun from start to finish, Seed of Chucky isn't as good but is inventive and different and deserves more praise than it gets. Curse of Chucky is the loving best one and is the only entry that feels genuinely scary, and with Cult of Chucky I didn't quite buy the conceit but I thought it was well made. The reboot is okay I guess, but it didn't really take advantage of the AI thing imo. All and all a solid series by my reckoning, I prefer them to the Fridays just because there's more variance in approach and tone, which makes a series watch through feel more interesting.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 07:28 |
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Are the M:I plots still "Oh no, Cruise gets betrayed, and has to go on the run!"
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 11:58 |
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Davros1 posted:Are the M:I plots still "Oh no, Cruise gets betrayed, and has to go on the run!" I think so, I fell asleep for a decent portion of the recent one, because it was like 3 hours long.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 12:08 |
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If he gets disavowed one more time he'll have enough stamps on his loyalty card for a free coffee
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 12:19 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:Is there another series that's kept up its quality this many sequels in? poo poo the last two might be the best ones. the Godzilla series really hit its peak in the third through sixth movies
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 12:22 |
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he will likely be disavowed again because alec baldwin, his handler got killed in the last one
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 12:56 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:You sometimes get that on horror franchises. I'm of the opinion that all of the Friday the 13th movies are pretty bad but watchable at an equal level, and someone could probably tell me any one of them is their favorite of the franchise without me batting an eye, except maybe the boat one. By all accounts the Child's Play/Chucky movies have all kinda been great? I'm always amused when someone describes any entry from Friday the 13th as a good movie. They're enjoyable and nostalgic and "safe" in that you don't get suddenly surprised by rape or torture, you're having fun. But outside of a few novel ideas, let's not act like the first one is some sort of classic film. I honestly believe people insisting that haven't actually watched it in years. There are so many shots of a completely black screen with a single wildly swinging flashlight in the distance, and the Final Girl sequence is way too long with half of it too dark to see what the gently caress is going on.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 13:03 |
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Davros1 posted:Are the M:I plots still "Oh no, Cruise gets betrayed, and has to go on the run!" You would think that after a certain point the people in charge would stop believing all these frame jobs.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 13:37 |
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muscles like this! posted:You would think that after a certain point the people in charge would stop believing all these frame jobs. At least the last one came up with the rather fair point of "Given all the crap that keeps happening to this guy, sooner or later, he's going to crack".
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 13:45 |
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mi fallout was the one with the really good trailer music right
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 14:04 |
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You're thinking of the Limp Bizit theme from the second one.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 14:27 |
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muscles like this! posted:You would think that after a certain point the people in charge would stop believing all these frame jobs. Wasn't that the plot of the one with Alec Baldwin and Jeremy Renner in front of congress asking them about all the frame jobs? Naturally they solved it by setting up a frame job.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 14:29 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I'm always amused when someone describes any entry from Friday the 13th as a good movie. They're enjoyable and nostalgic and "safe" in that you don't get suddenly surprised by rape or torture, you're having fun. But outside of a few novel ideas, let's not act like the first one is some sort of classic film. I honestly believe people insisting that haven't actually watched it in years. There are so many shots of a completely black screen with a single wildly swinging flashlight in the distance, and the Final Girl sequence is way too long with half of it too dark to see what the gently caress is going on. Yeah, the first one's a pretty naked attempt to just cash in on the then-new slasher trend. The second one's got some fun moments and I kind of love the third one? Like I admit it's a dogshit movie but I really enjoy it. Jason X I also kind of love just for how thoroughly it embraces it's terribleness and cheapness. It's like an episode of Lexx that Kane Hodder wanders into with a spacemachete via David Cronenberg.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 14:42 |
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muscles like this! posted:You would think that after a certain point the people in charge would stop believing all these frame jobs. Too much smoke man
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 14:51 |
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AceOfFlames posted:At least the last one came up with the rather fair point of "Given all the crap that keeps happening to this guy, sooner or later, he's going to crack". There's some real intelligence agency self-fulfilling prophecy poo poo in there. "Let's keep accusing this guy of being a bad guy until eventually he becomes one!"
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 14:54 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:Yeah, the first one's a pretty naked attempt to just cash in on the then-new slasher trend. The second one's got some fun moments and I kind of love the third one? Like I admit it's a dogshit movie but I really enjoy it. Jason X I also kind of love just for how thoroughly it embraces it's terribleness and cheapness. It's like an episode of Lexx that Kane Hodder wanders into with a spacemachete via David Cronenberg. Oh, there is plenty to love sprinkled throughout. Per your example, a lot of the 3D in part 3...D still looks amazing because they did it all by building sets and props at weird angles and different sizes in order to create the illusion.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 15:06 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:Yeah, the first one's a pretty naked attempt to just cash in on the then-new slasher trend. The second one's got some fun moments and I kind of love the third one? Like I admit it's a dogshit movie but I really enjoy it. Jason X I also kind of love just for how thoroughly it embraces it's terribleness and cheapness. It's like an episode of Lexx that Kane Hodder wanders into with a spacemachete via David Cronenberg. The Friday movies, within the context of other long horror franchises holds up pretty well. The Friday movies have a pretty set formula they don't really stray from and it works well enough. Compared to say Nightmare which has 2 good movies and the rest are a mess. Child's Play remake was disappointing because they really didn't do much with the AI idea or really anything else. Mark Hamill was cool as Chucky I guess.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 15:09 |
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joylessdivision posted:The Friday movies, within the context of other long horror franchises holds up pretty well. The Friday movies have a pretty set formula they don't really stray from and it works well enough. And whenever they've tried to stray from that formula, it hasn't worked out. Just look at Jason Goes to Hell.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 15:14 |
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I'd argue that though the Friday films have a better sense of quality consistency between entries, the Nightmare films have way higher highs. The first one, Dream Warriors and New Nightmare are all better than any Friday film imo.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 15:28 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:And whenever they've tried to stray from that formula, it hasn't worked out. Just look at Jason Goes to Hell. The problem is, they'll have a germ of a good idea, and instead of stopping there, go completely off the loving rails. Jason Goes to Hell starts off with a SWAT team taking him down. There's your movie, right there. A tactical squad gets sent in to apprehend Jason, not knowing or believing what he's capable of. No body jumping worm, no Voorhees Curse. It could've even led into Jason X. Jason's captured. Since he can't be killed, the plan is to freeze him. The military instead wants to exploit him. He escapes, and the military and scientists are trapped in a lockdowned facility while he's on the loose. No space, no androids, no nannites.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 15:29 |
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Lobok posted:There's some real intelligence agency self-fulfilling prophecy poo poo in there. "Let's keep accusing this guy of being a bad guy until eventually he becomes one!" I'm surprised they haven't drawn from that well, yet, disavow him as a double agent.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 15:30 |
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I just want to see my boy use random items to destroy people
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 15:31 |
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Karloff posted:I'd argue that though the Friday films have a better sense of quality consistency between entries, the Nightmare films have way higher highs. The first one, Dream Warriors and New Nightmare are all better than any Friday film imo. 100% agree
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Davros1 posted:Are the M:I plots still "Oh no, Cruise gets betrayed, and has to go on the run!" No one watches the M:I movies for the plot.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 16:56 |
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Yea people who praise Friday the 13th's consistency are coming from a place of experience with the lowest lows the slasher subgenre has to offer. So if you haven't seen all the Hellraiser sequels or Halloween Resurrection or Nightmare on Elm Street 5 and 6, you really don't understand the full context of the conversation. Friday the 13th maintains at least a middling level of quality across 10+ movies, while still managing to mix up the formula in some interesting ways.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 17:04 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Oh, there is plenty to love sprinkled throughout. Per your example, a lot of the 3D in part 3...D still looks amazing because they did it all by building sets and props at weird angles and different sizes in order to create the illusion. Not sure if this is true but someone told me part 3 was never actually released in 3D, which makes all the "throwing things directly at the camera" shots that much funnier. Karloff posted:I'd argue that though the Friday films have a better sense of quality consistency between entries, the Nightmare films have way higher highs. Oh definitely. That's what I'm saying about the F13 movies, like they're pretty bad but they're consistently bad but watchable. The first Nightmare movie is legit a pretty great movie. It doesn't give Halloween a run for its money but it's better than any actual Halloween sequel (argument to be made about Season of the Witch, but let's say that doesn't count as a sequel) and the vast majority of slashers.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 17:09 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:And whenever they've tried to stray from that formula, it hasn't worked out. Just look at Jason Goes to Hell. I love Jason goes to Hell because it is incredibly stupid and Creighton Duke is the best character added to the franchise since Tommy Jarvis. I also loved Jason X but that one was basically "Friday the 13th but in space" which works if you're willing to accept the dumb premise and just enjoy the early 2000s trash that it is. Uber Jason isn't my favorite Jason design (Part 7 has the best looking hosed up Jason) but it's still awesome. The only Friday sequels I struggle with are 3 and 8, mostly because so much of 3 is built around 3D effects shots that look dopey without the 3D and I loving hate Shelley. Obnoxious loving character. 8 is just boring as hell and wastes the majority of its runtime on a boat and then has a completely batshit ending that makes no sense. Also lazy Jason design after the amazing work done on the previous movie.
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