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Rank the Universals Bride of Frankenstein Invisible Man Creature from the Black Lagoon The Wolf Man Frankenstein Dracula The Mummy
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few pages late but CelticPred your Michael/Sam photoshoot was loving awesome. You've got a real talent with photography, I love when you share em.
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Sep 9, 2020 00:21
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I haven't seen the Universal Monster movies either. I think the thing about them, why people who have seen a ton of horror movies haven't seen them, is because of how historically important they are. Like, even in this discussion, the fact that they're good is brought up second to the fact that they're essential viewing if you want to speak authoritatively about horror movies. So that creates a context where someone watching them for the first time is doing so primarily out of historical curiosity or genre obligation. And I think those are lesser motivators than, like, this movie is the new hotness, or this is by a director you really like, or this one is from a genre or country you aren't very familiar with, etc.
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Sep 9, 2020 01:15
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Gripweed posted:I haven't seen the Universal Monster movies either. I think the thing about them, why people who have seen a ton of horror movies haven't seen them, is because of how historically important they are. Like, even in this discussion, the fact that they're good is brought up second to the fact that they're essential viewing if you want to speak authoritatively about horror movies. So that creates a context where someone watching them for the first time is doing so primarily out of historical curiosity or genre obligation. And I think those are lesser motivators than, like, this movie is the new hotness, or this is by a director you really like, or this one is from a genre or country you aren't very familiar with, etc. What's funny is that this is a self creating problem because if someone DID watch a James Whale film and liked it, then you could approach them with some of the stuff from below But most people who haven't seen the films tend to discount them due to age or whatever and that leads to people trying to defend them with the former reasoning, which drives others away from them all the more
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Sep 9, 2020 01:17
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One of the weirdest quirks I've encountered was from the head manager when I worked at a theater. He refused to watch any films made before he was born ('88 or '89). It's been years since that job, but every now and then it crosses my mind and I still can't get my head around that decision. He also had a DVD player in his dash, and would just let Phantom Menace play while driving to and from work. Weird guy.
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Sep 9, 2020 01:21
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Kvlt! posted:few pages late but CelticPred your Michael/Sam photoshoot was loving awesome. You've got a real talent with photography, I love when you share em. Have you seen his extremely dope stop motion short? Dude should work for Laika or something. edit: I have no idea where to find the short
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Sep 9, 2020 01:38
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It’s wild how so many of you have classic horror as a blind spot. 1930-1970 is my sweet spot, and my physical collection is almost entirely movies from that era. I’ve got tons of Universal, Hammer, Val Lewton, William Castle, Roger Corman, and similar. My big blind spot is 80s and 90s stuff. I’ve seen most of the big franchises, but a lot of the cultier stuff has so far evaded me.
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Sep 9, 2020 01:41
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Franchescanado posted:Rank the Universals Frankenstein The Bride of Frankenstein Dracula Invisible Man The Creature for the Black Lagoon Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein The Creature Walks Among Us Spanish Dracula Son of Frankenstein The Wolfman Revenge of the Creature House of Frankenstein Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman The Ghost of Frankenstein The Mummy House of Dracula Dracula Is buoyed by the sheer importance of Lugosi's performance. Spanish is otherwise the slightly better movie. I know Bride is a better made movie, but the performance more striking in the original. And while Bride has great camp, the queer subtext of the original is much more raw. I really should do a rewatch though. Some of these movies, I haven't seen since college.
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Sep 9, 2020 01:43
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married but discreet posted:Have you seen his extremely dope stop motion short? Dude should work for Laika or something. I havent but this sounds amazing! anyone got a link?
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Sep 9, 2020 01:51
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Which short? I’ll post the two https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzJO1HB8mes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe4Rj-bdp8Y Then there’s this which I don’t think I’ve shared. I did it for a contest with the toys but then I realized I was a grown man entering a contest for kids and never actually entered lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E6EUMO_vns
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Sep 9, 2020 01:54
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Benito Cereno posted:It’s wild how so many of you have classic horror as a blind spot. This October Ironman, I'll be breaking out some of the silents I have again. I reviewed some for the first Ironman I participated in and they seemed to go over well.
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Sep 9, 2020 01:55
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I'm a confirmed Horror Husk BTW, no shade on fellow thread poster 1001 maniacs. I think Scaredy Cats is the best horror channel on YouTube and they don't need to see Frankenstein to be that for me - I look forward to future videos where they give their thoughts on some of the most fun and interesting movies they haven't seen yet. There's a thin line between championing great old movies and being gatekeeping douches, which a large part of the horror community is whenever they get the chance to be. Perhaps the tongue in cheek poser bit is just a little too on the nose? I have seen probably 99% of the rank list there and would not be able to make a video like Scaredy Matt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxDRJUKpzCQ https://youtu.be/lxDRJUKpzCQ The Hausu Usher fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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Sep 9, 2020 01:58
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CelticPredator posted:Which short? I’ll post the two There's THREE? Hell yeah man! edit: You'd have absolutely wrecked those kids' poo poo. married but discreet fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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Sep 9, 2020 02:01
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BisonDollah posted:I'm a confirmed Horror Husk BTW, no shade on fellow thread poster 1001 maniacs. I think Scaredy Cats is the best horror channel on YouTube and he doesn't need to see Frankenstein to be that for me - I look forward to future videos where he gives his thoughts on some of the most fun and interesting movies he hasn't seen yet. I tried to make a YouTube video back in '05, and I quickly realised that I'm not very good at that sort of thing. So I absolutely respect anyone who can make videos and have them be entertaining. Even if they're wrong about American Psycho.
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Sep 9, 2020 02:14
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BisonDollah posted:There's a thin line between championing great old movies and being gatekeeping douches, which a large part of the horror community is whenever they get the chance to be. Perhaps the tongue in cheek poser bit is just a little too on the nose? I have seen probably 99% of the rank list there and would not be able to make a video like Scaredy Matt.
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Sep 9, 2020 02:17
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Dog_Meat posted:It was one of my favourites as a kid (my uncle managed to sneak me into the cinema to watch it when I was 10). It was just so... horrific. The Thing is hands down the better movie, but as a kid the Blob just tapped into something NASTY for me. And it helps that they just don't care and utterly gently caress up the kid like that . There's nothing like an 80s/early 90s melting death to get a Fangoria kiddie's attention You're right that The Blob is just gross. The Thing is better and weirder, but The Blob taps into that part of your brain that is disgusted by the idea of putting your hand down the drain and then takes that concept to its grossest possible end.
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Sep 9, 2020 02:20
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I'm not big on the funny haha youtuber tone, but that guy is leagues better than most of the horror tubes I've seen. I still haven't seen one I really like.
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Sep 9, 2020 02:20
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anime tupac posted:You're right that The Blob is just gross. The Thing is better and weirder, but The Blob taps into that part of your brain that is disgusted by the idea of putting your hand down the drain and then takes that concept to its grossest possible end. RIP Paul. In another movie you would have been the hero
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Sep 9, 2020 02:41
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Bert of the Forest posted:I mean, the so-called classics can definitely be a chore to watch so I can't say I blame any horror fan who hasn't the willpower to sit through Frankenstein or Dracula. I gave it a shot when I first got into horror because it seemed like something ya just "had" to do, and yeah it felt like an absolute chore compared to the films that actually got me into the genre, they're like a whole different kind of film. Agreed, Frankenstein was a chore to watch(though it's possible I just wasn't in the right mood for it), Bride of Frankenstein was great though dorium posted:I still stand by that Young Frankenstein is the more purest of Frankenstein movies. Very true
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Sep 9, 2020 02:47
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:RIP Paul. In another movie you would have been the hero your Yeats avatar quote seems especially relevant in this scenario. I don't even remember anyone's name, just the horrible ways they died
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Sep 9, 2020 02:54
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The Blob and it's remake are underrated classics. The practical effects in the remake are really gruesome and good.
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Sep 9, 2020 03:02
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Blob talk reminds me: I don’t know how many of you have seen Fiend Without a Face, but it’s a sci-fi horror about brain monsters, and it’s got surprisingly gross effects for a 1958 flick. It’s definitely in that McQueen Blob vibe
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Sep 9, 2020 03:14
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Timeless Appeal posted:I still like Scaredy Matt, but I think there's a difference between gatekeeping horror from casual fans and making some fun at a dude who makes weekly videos of horror having some weird gaps and some questionable taste. Yeah, the difference is this dude is presenting himself as an expert on the genre. Like, that doesn't stop him from having some valid analysis of the films and everyone's got blind spots, but if you're claiming to be a specialist in this field you should probably at least have the basics covered before you start educating others. edit: wtf he's never seen Psycho????? That might be worse than Frankenstein. That's like being an expert on Shakespeare and never having read Hamlet. TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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Sep 9, 2020 03:33
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Yes, hello, I’m a horror expert. Don’t worry, I’ve seen all the big ones. AvP:R, Silent Hill: Revelations, and the entire Annabelle series.
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Sep 9, 2020 03:50
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Lights Out is the Citizen Kane of horror.
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Franchescanado posted:Rank the Universals If we must: Son of Frankenstein The Creature from the Black Lagoon Frankenstein The Mummy's Ghost The Invisible Man Dracula The Bride of Frankenstein The Ghost of Frankenstein The Mummy's Hand The Mummy's Tomb The Wolf Man Revenge of the Creature The Creature Walks Among Us Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man Son of Dracula The House of Frankenstein House of Dracula The Mummy's Curse I don't think I've ever seen the Invisible Man sequels or the 1943 Phantom of the Opera, and I don't remember enough of the Abbot & Costello joints to remember if I've seen one or more of those.
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Sep 9, 2020 04:48
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Benito Cereno posted:Blob talk reminds me: I don’t know how many of you have seen Fiend Without a Face, but it’s a sci-fi horror about brain monsters, and it’s got surprisingly gross effects for a 1958 flick. It’s definitely in that McQueen Blob vibe I love Fiend Without a Face. When I was a kid, that movie made me want a pet brain monster something fierce.
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Sep 9, 2020 05:12
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I agree that The Mummy is not good but Karloff in the wraps just looks phenomenal. Too bad it’s only one scene. Class3KillStorm posted:1943 Phantom of the Opera I was going to ask about this one because for some reason it’s included in the 8-pack. I don’t know if I’m even going to bother watching it since the set was a gift.
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Sep 9, 2020 06:03
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Class3KillStorm posted:I don't think I've ever seen the Invisible Man sequels or the 1943 Phantom of the Opera, and I don't remember enough of the Abbot & Costello joints to remember if I've seen one or more of those. The Invisible Man sequels are all different genres. The Invisible Man Returns is horror and has Vincent Price in an early role, so is worth watching. The Invisible Woman is a screwball comedy. The Invisible Agent is a war film. I’ve actually never seen The Invisible Man’s Revenge even though I own it. The 1943 Phantom is pretty bad, despite Claude Rains. You’re better off sticking to the 1925 version
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Sep 9, 2020 07:18
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Class3KillStorm posted:Abbot & Costello joints Man, I haven't thought of these in a while but I used to love them as a kid. Many fond memories of cracking out on Three Stooges, Universal monsters, and MST3K on the weekends
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Sep 9, 2020 07:42
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I finally finished 1BR after having to stop it after it got a little too intense for me, and it was absolutely fantastic. One quick word of caution: do not watch this if you suffer from epilepsy, there's a scene that could very likely trigger a seizure. Netflix should really put warning labels on their stuff for things like that.
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Sep 9, 2020 10:43
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lovely UK Netflix lineup, lovely geoblocking, grumble grumble. As far as old horror movies goes, I know it's my blind-spot and the enthusiasm of people in this thread has made me resolve to watch some classics for Spooktober, and I'm obviously not making YouTube videos about the genre. It's in that weird spot where it's not technically gatekeeping because watching Nosferatu, the 10 best universal horrors, the best Hitchcocks etc is hardly a gargantuan task but at the same time it's not like the number of good horror movies is decreasing, so being educated on the genre is constantly getting more difficult for a newcomer. I'd rather talented video producers be able to make stuff about things they like than feel obligated to shut themselves in a movie basement for 100s of hours of homework before speaking their mind.
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Sep 9, 2020 11:07
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So are there any non Kaiju horror films from Japan that A) don't rely on Jump Scares for most of the horror*, or B) have an actual happy ending(cause as far as I can tell J Horror seems to be near universally bad endings, and I hate those, especially in a horror context^) *not only are Jump Scares the cheapest and laziest way to get scares, they're also something that I do not handle well at all as I have anxiety and paranoia issues that they most definitely set off ^what can I say, I find the real world a depressing enough place without happy endings as it is, I don't need that kind of thing in my fiction as well
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Sep 9, 2020 11:20
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drrockso20 posted:So are there any non Kaiju horror films from Japan that A) don't rely on Jump Scares for most of the horror*, or B) have an actual happy ending(cause as far as I can tell J Horror seems to be near universally bad endings, and I hate those, especially in a horror context^)
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Sep 9, 2020 11:30
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drrockso20 posted:So are there any non Kaiju horror films from Japan that A) don't rely on Jump Scares for most of the horror*, or B) have an actual happy ending(cause as far as I can tell J Horror seems to be near universally bad endings, and I hate those, especially in a horror context^) Shirome or find a cut of the J-Horror from The Cabin in the Woods which looks a hoot!
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Sep 9, 2020 11:33
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Ringu has a happy ending for some but a very bad ending for others
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Sep 9, 2020 11:34
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Timeless Appeal posted:I mean... what counts as a happy ending? Like in Audition the villain is stopped, but it's obviously hard to label that as a happy movie. I thought the villains triumphed over the heroine at the end of Audition
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Sep 9, 2020 11:34
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drrockso20 posted:So are there any non Kaiju horror films from Japan that A) don't rely on Jump Scares for most of the horror*, or B) have an actual happy ending(cause as far as I can tell J Horror seems to be near universally bad endings, and I hate those, especially in a horror context^) it's not a film but the new Ju On series on Netflix is less jump scares and more intense dread and unease and sudden intense fits of violence. it definitely does not meet criteria B though.
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Sep 9, 2020 11:36
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Timeless Appeal posted:I mean... what counts as a happy ending? Like in Audition the villain is stopped, but it's obviously hard to label that as a happy movie. Well it doesn't have to be outright happy, like a bittersweet ending can be good when done right(the original Terminator is probably the classic example of this) Alhazred posted:Ringu has a happy ending for some but a very bad ending for others Yeah I'm not going anywhere near either that or Ju-On as franchises, both because of their reliance on Jump Scares generally, and also cause of legitimate lingering trauma relating to Ringu(or rather The Ring) I've had since I was 12(like I was legitimately terrified of my VCR for the year between that and Scary Movie 3* killing most of the terror it caused me), so I can't stand anything that has that general style of Japanese Ghost(doesn't help that I also find them to be extremely boring as monsters go) *yeah those movies are the epitome of trash but at least for the first three entries they were pretty funny
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:I thought the villains triumphed over the heroine at the end of Audition I dunno if there are multiple versions of Audition or if there's some lovely dub that completely drops the ball, but in the one I watched, Asami paralyzes Aoyama and starts driving needles into him, he "wakes up" and imagines an alternate sequence of events that end in her death, and then the very last thing you hear before the movie ends is one last "KIRI KIRI KIRI KIRI," implying rather heavily that the escape sequence was the dream and he's really dying at her hands. e: Also, while I don't really believe in word-of-god canon, Miike apparently agrees with me; or at least, he said in an interview that the torture sequence is not a dream. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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