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CaptainSarcastic posted:Part of me hopes for a comedy option board that can run either DDR4 or DDR5 but not both at once, like in the transition to DDR2 days. So much so that a friend with a top of the line Dell with a P4HT got jealous because WoW ran like dog poo poo on it’s included FX5200 or MX440 or whatever POS was in that thing that he had me order another dirt cheap X600 for him immediately and was so pissed at the difference a $40 GPU made and the fact that they’d even sell him such trash for the express purpose of gaming as that GPU was so cheap relative to the total price tag of his system. The problem is nowadays motherboard manufacturers would put so much of a premium on such a niche goofball comedy mobo that it’d hardly be worth it. Gone are the days where you could get the absolute top of the line board for $65 if you were willing to play the refurb game. 
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Sep 9, 2020 05:01
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I think I mentioned this before but the AM3+ motherboard I was playing around with in June had some poo poo like a Radeon 4000 integrated graphics right on the motherboard. loving incredible! They should start doing that poo poo again just to calm my nerves about buying non-iGPU CPUs.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I think I mentioned this before but the AM3+ motherboard I was playing around with in June had some poo poo like a Radeon 4000 integrated graphics right on the motherboard. loving incredible! They should start doing that poo poo again just to calm my nerves about buying non-iGPU CPUs. My previous main computer is an AM3 board with integrated Radeon HD 4250 graphics but I don't think I have ever actually used them. It's had an Nvidia GPU in it from day 1. It is kind of a nice feeling of security having a fallback for video right there.
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Sep 9, 2020 05:19
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gradenko_2000 posted:IIRC DDR5 is keyed differently from DDR4, so you can't have a slot that works for both Somewhere some Asrock engineer just felt a tingle
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Sep 9, 2020 05:28
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WhyteRyce posted:Somewhere some Asrock engineer just felt a tingle Soon: DDR3, 4, 5 and an optane slot all ok the same board.
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Sep 9, 2020 05:29
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ratbert90 posted:Soon: DDR3, 4, 5 and an optane slot all ok the same mini itx TR4 board.
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Sep 9, 2020 05:31
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EmpyreanFlux posted:Speaking of good but probably not purchasable products I'm thinking the Asrock wins if you gotta have DisplayPort and a 2nd or faster ethernet at the same time. Asus if you want 2 of the USB ports to be USB 3.2 gen2 instead of 2.0 (total of 3 USB 3.2 type-A) or a Micro-SD reader or a microphone jack. I have too many USB 3 external drives to not consider a 2nd USB 3 type-A plug to be a practical necessity. Transferring between drives connected to the same hub seems slow. Which case looks better ventilated? gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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Sep 9, 2020 05:48
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CaptainSarcastic posted:No, I mean a board with different slots for different types of memory. I played with a couple of boards that came out in a transitional period and had slots for DDR and DDR2, like 2 of each, and could run one or the other. Looks like this was one of them: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-8I915P-Duo-Pro-A-rev-10#ov There were also SDR/DDR boards too - the ECS K7S5A comes to mind.
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There used to be mobo's with support for multiple consumer sockets and stuff too to act as 'transistional upgrade' boards. They were usually poo poo and made by guys like PCChips but the idea itself is cool as heck. Here is one that supports socket 370 and slot 1: PC Chips M741LMRT https://cdn8.bigcommerce.com/s-a1x7...c=2?imbypass=on
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Sep 9, 2020 06:09
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:There were also SDR/DDR boards too - the ECS K7S5A comes to mind.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:There used to be mobo's with support for multiple consumer sockets and stuff too to act as 'transistional upgrade' boards. They were usually poo poo and made by guys like PCChips but the idea itself is cool as heck. Here is one that supports socket 370 and slot 1: PC Chips M741LMRT
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Some earlier 486 boards had stuff like both SIMM slots for EDO DRAM and DIMM SDRAM slots... which gets really mental when you realize how different those two are from a signaling standpoint. But memory controllers weren't integrated into the CPU in those early design, so it was up to the motherboard to deal with.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:There were also SDR/DDR boards too - the ECS K7S5A comes to mind. I had a K7S5A with some Athlon XP via one of Fry's CPU + Mobo sales.
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Sep 9, 2020 07:02
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ratbert90 posted:Soon: DDR3, 4, 5 and an optane slot all ok the same board. Some ASRock engineer just bolted straight-up from a dead sleep with an erection at the thought of being able to bring back memory daughterboards for each kind of memory, with LPDDR-style low-profile slot and retention mechanism, but for full-size DIMMs.
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Sep 9, 2020 09:27
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Part of me hopes for a comedy option board that can run either DDR4 or DDR5 but not both at once, like in the transition to DDR2 days. If anyone makes it, it will be Asrock
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Sep 9, 2020 10:04
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FuturePastNow posted:If anyone makes it, it will be Asrock I was wondering if there were any Skylake boards with both DDR3 and DDR4 support and of course Asrock did it.
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Arzachel posted:I was wondering if there were any Skylake boards with both DDR3 and DDR4 support and of course Asrock did it. Currently running an ASrock m-itx system by powering the mobo with a 19v DC adaptor. Love to rear end rock.
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Isn't there supposed to be a major announcement of some kind today regarding zen 3?
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movax posted:What features would they add? Seems like an expensive reason to spin masks IMO... just more PCIe lanes, but at the expense of ? it could also be like X370 vs X470 where it’s the same silicon but with different software bundled or whatever
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Cygni posted:Some earlier 486 boards had stuff like both SIMM slots for EDO DRAM and DIMM SDRAM slots... which gets really mental when you realize how different those two are from a signaling standpoint. But memory controllers weren't integrated into the CPU in those early design, so it was up to the motherboard to deal with. Just to prove that everything old is new again, Power10 doesn't have an on-chip memory controller. It just uses generic signalling to a buffer chip, be that DDR4, DDR5, GDDRx or even IO. This lets server manufacturers choose the mix of memory and IO to suit their product. There's a pretty good explanation here. 
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Sep 9, 2020 12:36
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movax posted:What features would they add? Seems like an expensive reason to spin masks IMO... just more PCIe lanes, but at the expense of ? When AMD shipped X570 they had to hastily repurpose their Epyc I/O die as a chipset because ASMedia (their normal chipset partner) didn't have PCIe 4 ready yet. ASMedia has probably caught up now (B550 was ASMedia again) so an X590 chipset could just be a lower-power remake of X570 by ASMedia eliminating the need for the chipset fan that everyone hates.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I think I mentioned this before but the AM3+ motherboard I was playing around with in June had some poo poo like a Radeon 4000 integrated graphics right on the motherboard. loving incredible! They should start doing that poo poo again just to calm my nerves about buying non-iGPU CPUs. My old computer had something like this (probably not as good tho) on its MB, was very helpful that time my GPU died.
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Mr.Radar posted:When AMD shipped X570 they had to hastily repurpose their Epyc I/O die as a chipset because ASMedia (their normal chipset partner) didn't have PCIe 4 ready yet. ASMedia has probably caught up now (B550 was ASMedia again) so an X590 chipset could just be a lower-power remake of X570 by ASMedia eliminating the need for the chipset fan that everyone hates. The chipset on b550 isn't pcie4. Just the lanes directly to the CPU.
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So are the new APU's never really going to be released standalone? The 4750G seems to be exactly what I've been waiting for.
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Just to prove that everything old is new again, Power10 doesn't have an on-chip memory controller. It just uses generic signalling to a buffer chip, be that DDR4, DDR5, GDDRx or even IO. This lets server manufacturers choose the mix of memory and IO to suit their product. There's a pretty good explanation here. I’m the GDDR DIMM having erotic dreams about SoCs. I wonder if the POWER method is to be able to support upcoming standards like CXL through the buffer chip as well. Good way for baking in support for extremely new standards that may not be finalized yet.
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Xeom posted:So are the new APU's never really going to be released standalone? The 4750G seems to be exactly what I've been waiting for. AMD's trying to realign their APU releases so desktop gets Cezanne, Zen3 with Vega, sometime after Vermeer.
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Event or paper launch? https://twitter.com/LisaSu/status/1303725578160349185 E: https://twitter.com/AMD/status/1303726678808711177 E2: Tweet said RDNA2 in Sep 28. ufarn fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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Sep 9, 2020 17:05
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Unavailable now, what did this say?
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Paul MaudDib posted:Unavailable now, what did this say? But Su's video said Oct 8 for Ryzen, hence my immense confusion. I guess they published an old schedule that got pushed back because of ... Ampere? ufarn fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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Sep 9, 2020 17:12
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corrected tweet https://twitter.com/AMDGaming/status/1303726683976069123?s=20 Zen3 October 8, RDNA2 October 28
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:There used to be mobo's with support for multiple consumer sockets and stuff too to act as 'transistional upgrade' boards. They were usually poo poo and made by guys like PCChips but the idea itself is cool as heck. Here is one that supports socket 370 and slot 1: PC Chips M741LMRT I have vague memories of some grody thing that was socket 754, but with a monstrous daughterboard you could put 939 cpu in. Possibly had to move your memory to the daughtercard as well. Oh poo poo, and in trying to find that board I found this beauty from, guess who, Asrock: https://www.asrock.com/mb/ULi/K8 Combo-Z/ .png) DOUBLE oh poo poo, I found something even more hosed up (and maybe what I was originally thinking of) ECS made an LGA775 board that had a daughterboard you could put a 939 CPU in  https://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Overview/EN/Motherboard/PF88 Extreme Hybrid -LL-V1-DO-1-RR-/Socket 775 -LL-Intel-RR- https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/mainboard/1181-ecs-pf88-extreme-hybrid-mainboard/   Featuring ULi and SiS chipsets, respectively 
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oh hell yes. the days before AMD and Intel systematically murdered third party chipsets were wild times.
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Really wish they'd bring back that kind of color scheme on mobos. I don't use a windowed case but that's fun as hell.
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Buy one of those phones from the early 90s, take all the components out, and build a motherboard out of it! Been sure you are wearing a Swatch watch while doing so, otherwise you've liability concerns.
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https://gadgetcrutches.com/technology/the-amd-ryzen-4000-will-finally-arrive-under-the-name-ryzen-5000/ There's this bit o' rumor that apparently all of Zen 3 is going to release as Ryzen 5000 SKUs, so that the naming is going to be consistent again: a Zen 3 CPU is going to be something like a Ryzen 5 5600X, a Zen 3 APU is going to be a Ryzen 3 5400G, and Zen 3 mobile is going to be a Ryzen 5800U. This does mean the only 4000-series SKUs are the Renoir APUs, but that's the price to pay for unifying the naming schemes again. I say good on them.
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our current naming is stupid and hosed as it always is, how can we fix it? *San Jose State marketing intern named Kleidrian*... gently caress it up worse?
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ehhhh no 5000 series for DDR5? booo
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SO DEMANDING posted:I have vague memories of some grody thing that was socket 754, but with a monstrous daughterboard you could put 939 cpu in. Possibly had to move your memory to the daughtercard as well. Yeah I forgot about those things. I vaaaaguely remember them but never actually saw one in person or knew anyone who had one. Definitely cool but definitely crappy.
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