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strong bird posted:867 is broken because they didnt implement a sensible maximum range range for conquest or holy war or cooldown for free CBs that all tribal norse get, 1066 is broken because AI rulers dont upgrade their holdings - the entire game is broken because the AI doesnt know how to do matrilineal marriages and put their heirs as knights in every battle so every dynasty dies off in a generation or shorter All true - also has anyone seen the AI actually go from Tribal to Feudal without being subjugated and doit it via liege?
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Azhais posted:The effects of renown + the diplomacy trees seems a little OP. I just finished forming the empire of hispania by force vassalizing one of my Muslim neighbors and he was still +63 afterwards despite the -30 religion is evil and -20 declared war and everything else modifiers. The diplomacy lifestyles are definitely the "everyone just passively likes me and I don't even need to do anything to earn it" options. Frankly, even moreso than in CK2.
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A God drat Ghost posted:Oh, cool. My son's wife has the trait, she is also intelligent. Hopefully she can become a better physician then. My current one made me drink pig urine. I mean, did it work?
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Woops I accidentally named all three of my daughters the same thing. Thanks random name generator 
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Sep 9, 2020 18:22
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I systematically name my sons the same, but give them distinct facial features ...I just love big ordinal numbers, okay?
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:Had I been in charge, I would have marched the Stellaris launch QA team out to a forest in the dead of winter, made them dig a long trench, then forced them to beg for their lives at gunpoint. By comparison, merely closing their department is generous Having worked in this industry in a previous version of my life, let me just say... it is very rare that it is the QA team that sucks. What sucks is that the QA team fills the dev tracking database with known issues, and the people in charge say things like, “we have a launch target, therefore it is acceptable to launch with all these bugs we haven’t fixed yet.”
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Piell posted:Woops I accidentally named all three of my daughters the same thing. Thanks random name generator The Julio claudians gave everyone the exact same name so they needed nicknames so history wouldn’t be confusing. At least you don’t have that
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FileNotFound posted:All true - also has anyone seen the AI actually go from Tribal to Feudal without being subjugated and doit it via liege? I mean, I can't confirm it, but I've seen a lot of feudal/clan realms in west-central Africa in my game that started as tribal. I don't know if it was due to a feudal lord conquering the land, or they just picked up a brand of Islam and converted that way. ZombieLenin posted:Having worked in this industry in a previous version of my life, let me just say... it is very rare that it is the QA team that sucks. This is what I understand too, the QA team usually fills up reports on the stuff that players find in the release copy, but someone higher up decides it's not important enough to address (at least at the time).
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Excelzior posted:I systematically name my sons the same, but give them distinct facial features 
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Piell posted:Woops I accidentally named all three of my daughters the same thing. Thanks random name generator I think you should name your children Pigwash - what's in a name after all... Magil Zeal posted:I mean, I can't confirm it, but I've seen a lot of feudal/clan realms in west-central Africa in my game that started as tribal. I don't know if it was due to a feudal lord conquering the land, or they just picked up a brand of Islam and converted that way. It's 1100 for me, and all the nords are still Feudal, even the ones that switched to my religion - and I really want them to convert already because the map gore they've been making is getting really tiresome. FileNotFound fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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ZombieLenin posted:Having worked in this industry in a previous version of my life, let me just say... it is very rare that it is the QA team that sucks. Well yeah, obviously, but one must never let facts stand in the way of a lame joke
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Piell posted:Woops I accidentally named all three of my daughters the same thing. Thanks random name generator Just name all of your kids George like Mr Forman
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Well gently caress, I think the game just ate 4 hours of play time, I have got to be more careful with just pushing the continue button. Cloud saves were a mistake.FrickenMoron posted:Is it really worth starting in 867? It feels like the 200 years arent nearly enough to catch up with culture to get even close to a feudal level. I made it to feudal as Russia in 1060, but I could have been way faster had I actually realized that I was definitely going to convert to Russian culture and then actually invested anything in learning. All of the rest of the world is waaaay ahead of me though. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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Man some stuff in this game just isn't obvious to me. I'm playing as a vassal in France, and fabricated a claim on a neighboring county which is owned by another count. When I try to use my CB to declare war on him, it is declaring on King Philippe?? The king isn't even allied with this count, but he is both of our liege. Shouldn't I be able to only declare on this count to take his county? e: this county is also a part of a formed Duchy. I just clicked on that duke and hit declare war, and I can choose that county as the objective, but still the Count isn't really related to this county other than it being a part of his Duchy. I'm guessing this is how I'm supposed to do it? Tetramin fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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So what actually is the point of seducing? Just stress reduction and spare bastards if you get outed? Also is there some gimmick I can use to stop a kingdom from being formed and passed down to a second child? Don't think changing inheritance will do it with the options I got.
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New start, 867 as Audr the Deep Minded, kicked my neighbours rear end and formed Iceland, turned it all kinds of catholic. Nobody has any beef with me for now but I'm super weak and income is extremely slow. My sons are large and also extremely slow while my husband is an idiot savant at stewardship, which I guess is kinda helpful. For tribal edge-of-the-map starts with no immediate targets to conquer because Ivar and the Alba guy are both super strong and also everywhere - do I just raid as much as possible for money/renown while focusing on developing my two main counties? I did snag the Faereyar and use it as a staging point for raids. From what I understand it'll be generations until I can even think about going feudal (what do I need to go feudal btw?) but just keeping my few counties is going to make it hard to build up enough to survive I think. Any and all tips welcome!
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The fact that the AI doesn’t upgrade their holdings is super laaaame.
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PittTheElder posted:Well gently caress, I think the game just ate 4 hours of play time, I have got to be more careful with just pushing the continue button. Cloud saves were a mistake. Go to load game and tick the "Show viable saves" box twice. Sometimes the game doesn't show certain saves until you have done that.
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Games been real good so far, though I've been spending more time with the modding features than the base game. Scripting really does feel better than in CK2. There were some features they took out though. Apparently its actually impossible to mod in gay marriage right now, even though you could in CK2. There's a big thread on the official forums about it.
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Eschatos posted:So what actually is the point of seducing? Just stress reduction and spare bastards if you get outed? You can use the opinion boost from having a lover to help with alliances, or annoying vassals, or what have you. Or just cuckold your rivals for fun. I'm not actually sure but can you out your own bastards if they rise somewhere important? I don't think standard partition will create new top-level titles. Confederate partition will. If you're stuck with Confederate Partition, I think you're stuck with the new titles.
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Pavlov posted:Games been real good so far, though I've been spending more time with the modding features than the base game. Scripting really does feel better than in CK2. There were some features they took out though. Apparently its actually impossible to mod in gay marriage right now, even though you could in CK2. There's a big thread on the official forums about it. Which sucks, but apparently same-sex concubines are possible so that's something. Hopefully it's a thing that changes at some point, since the thread claims it's as simple as using Cheat Engine to flip one or two bits in memory.
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Captain Oblivious posted:The fact that the AI doesn’t upgrade their holdings is super laaaame. Some personality types do though, I found in 920 or so that one of my counties was 100% upgraded for the tech level, every slot with a tier 2 building. I checked and sure enough the current Earl's dad had the Architect trait and had apparently sunk somewhere north of fifteen hundred gold into upgrading his land before dying.
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Guildencrantz posted:Do baronies within a single county get partitioned on succession? I don't believe they do, since they can never leave the county.
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I founded the first Catholic Holy Order simply because I could. Is this actually useful for me in any way? I'd use them as troops, but the AI engage them 100% of the time lol so I never get the chance. Usually they slaughter them over and over. Do they grow in size naturally over time or do I have to feed them more holdings?
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How should I be landing my kids so that my realm isn't completely hosed up when I die?
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The HRE grabbed a weakend England out from under my push to form britannia. I'm really not in the position to fight the 30,000 some troops the very stable HRE has. Am I just hosed or is there a good way to get England to break free?
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Patrat posted:Some personality types do though, I found in 920 or so that one of my counties was 100% upgraded for the tech level, every slot with a tier 2 building. I checked and sure enough the current Earl's dad had the Architect trait and had apparently sunk somewhere north of fifteen hundred gold into upgrading his land before dying. the AI definitely upgrades holdings, it's just that holding upgrades are more expensive than losing wars, feasting, or paying bribes, so a lot of AI rulers will piss away their money before upgrading Whorelord posted:How should I be landing my kids so that my realm isn't completely hosed up when I die? try to get rid of any extra inheritors and land the handful of people you do want to inherit. part of the tension is that as a character you want all of your kids to be set up after you die but as a player you don't want to have a ruler death set you back. also only hold one top level title (one kingdom for multiple duchies, one duchy for multiple counties, etc.) so that you don't have two kingdoms to get handed out Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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 So I waged a normal non-holy war on the pope's county and took it, and the pope got demoted to a lovely courtier and now catholicism has no head somehow? Unfortunately it didn't stop the crusade they were lining up. edit: nevermind lol 
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My dipshit popes tanked faith in Catholicism and now there's pockets of Waldensianiam all over my empire. Even with the theology tree, it takes five years to convert one country and there are over a hundred counties riddled with Waldos. Unacceptable! Should I bother preserving Catholicism, become a Waldo, or make my own religion?
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Is it possible/reasonable to keep land under my direct control from one ruler to the next? Seems like over the generations, the amount of land actually under my direct control becomes lower and lower. Also, is it possible to have vassals like in mount & blade where I can call them to war when needed? It seems like vassals and allies are two different things, which throws me off because I thought vassals were always obliged to go to war with me in exchange for me handing them land?
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buglord posted:Is it possible/reasonable to keep land under my direct control from one ruler to the next? Seems like over the generations, the amount of land actually under my direct control becomes lower and lower. yes, it is possible to keep land inherited, but the early inheritance laws are designed to frustrate this. you'll just have to gain new titles with your new ruler, some from outside your realm, some from title revocations buglord posted:Also, is it possible to have vassals like in mount & blade where I can call them to war when needed? It seems like vassals and allies are two different things, which throws me off because I thought vassals were always obliged to go to war with me in exchange for me handing them land? vassals don't go to war with you directly. instead they contribute a percentage of their levies. when you raise troops, you are raising that percentage as well, and that is the strength they are obligated to give you having a vassal-ally is better, because then you are directly calling them entirely to war rather than just raising the portion of their troops they have to give you by law
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FutonForensic posted:My dipshit popes tanked faith in Catholicism and now there's pockets of Waldensianiam all over my empire. Even with the theology tree, it takes five years to convert one country and there are over a hundred counties riddled with Waldos. Unacceptable! If you can afford to make your own with Communion and you as the head, it's free money. In fact it becomes annoying with how many people are constantly offering you 100g forcing you to click accept every time....
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luxury handset posted:try to get rid of any extra inheritors and land the handful of people you do want to inherit. part of the tension is that as a character you want all of your kids to be set up after you die but as a player you don't want to have a ruler death set you back. also only hold one top level title (one kingdom for multiple duchies, one duchy for multiple counties, etc.) so that you don't have two kingdoms to get handed out I've also noticed that if you have a top level title with its own succession rules then it is possible to get multiple titles onto the same heir. This feels like a bug but it works. Here for example I have two kingdom level titles but West Francia has its own title succession (male only) so it doesn't count as partition and both get passed down: 
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FutonForensic posted:My dipshit popes tanked faith in Catholicism and now there's pockets of Waldensianiam all over my empire. Even with the theology tree, it takes five years to convert one country and there are over a hundred counties riddled with Waldos. Unacceptable! Here's something I've witnessed in my Africa game; it seems like if you demand that a vassal converts to your faith, their own holdings also convert. So I wouldn't waste time trying to preach away the heresy, just ask nicely instead. And you can force the vassals of your vassals to convert, so just go down to whoever directly owns the county and demand their conversion. Eventually though, once you are strong enough, I do recommend making your own faith because a big faith like Catholicism is very hard to keep stable.
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Jeza posted:I founded the first Catholic Holy Order simply because I could. Is this actually useful for me in any way? I'd use them as troops, but the AI engage them 100% of the time lol so I never get the chance. Usually they slaughter them over and over. Do they grow in size naturally over time or do I have to feed them more holdings? I had the exact same experience as you. I founded the first holy order, but it hasn't benefited me at all since it's hired out 100% of the time. It may actually be slightly hurting me since otherwise I'd get tax/levies from that holding? Not sure.
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Magil Zeal posted:Which sucks, but apparently same-sex concubines are possible so that's something. Hopefully it's a thing that changes at some point, since the thread claims it's as simple as using Cheat Engine to flip one or two bits in memory. Makes me wonder why they took the CK2 method out to begin with. I think single-gender races like Warhammer Orcs needed the same scripting effect to work right.
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