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Nibble posted:The Bozja Incident feels oddly familiar, in that a similar event came up in the Crystal Tower raid story. Didn’t the Allagans try to harness some type of power that ended up being too much for the Tower and took out the surrounding area? More or less. The Fourth Umbral Calamity was caused by Xande attempting to call down the entire stored power of Dalamud into the Crystal Tower at once in order to tear open a Voidgate to fulfill his pact with the Cloud of Darkness. It proved too much for the Tower to bear, and the resulting energy spilled out, causing a world-shattering quake. Vermain fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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Nibble posted:The Bozja Incident feels oddly familiar, in that a similar event came up in the Crystal Tower raid story. Didn’t the Allagans try to harness some type of power that ended up being too much for the Tower and took out the surrounding area? That either is the incident you're thinking of or you're getting mixed up with the fall of the Allagan Empire, where the activation of Dalamud's energy transfer to the crystal tower caused the land around the tower to shatter and massive earthquakes to break out all over the world. Vermain posted:More or less. [spoiler]The Fourth Umbral Calamity was caused by Xande attempting to call down the entire stored power of Dalamud into the Crystal Tower at once in order to tear open a Voidgate to fulfill his pact with the Cloud of Darkness. It proved too much for the Tower to bear, and the resulting energy spilled out, causing a world-shattering quake. Its funnier than that, IIRC. The tower was reinforced to handle the energy flow, but they didn't think to reinforce the terrain around the tower from the sheer force of the energy transfer. The ground under the tower shattered/disintegrated, plunging the tower into the earth and severing the connection. This resulted in Dalamud just beaming all that raw energy into the land itself, causing such devastation. (This was NOT Xande's intention!  )
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Sorry, didn't mean to use spoiler tags up there. My brain's out to lunch today and I thought I was in the main thread. v v
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Of course, given what we now know, their calculations were probably correct; they just didn't take into account a heaping helping of earth-aspected aether being delivered at the same time, courtesy of the Ascians.
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I hope the last leg of the Neir raid pulls more from Neir OG. We've had one whole raid of Machine Lifeform tech, one whole one of Yorha poo poo. Give me some Shades. Or a bunch of those AI ghosts that look like Manah.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I hope the last leg of the Neir raid pulls more from Neir OG. We've had one whole raid of Machine Lifeform tech, one whole one of Yorha poo poo. Give me some Shades. last nier raid is just the automata hacking minigame except 24 people at once, please look forward to it
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I hope the last leg of the Neir raid pulls more from Neir OG. We've had one whole raid of Machine Lifeform tech, one whole one of Yorha poo poo. Give me some Shades. I would assume the final part of the raid will involve the Tower, Devils/Popola, and A2.
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There better fuckin be Emil that's all I gotta say
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Regy Rusty posted:There better fuckin be Emil that's all I gotta say Yeah. Emil, A2, Devola/Popola, Some Other Boss, would make 4 bosses.
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blatman posted:last nier raid is just the automata hacking minigame except 24 people at once, please look forward to it One alliance has to forfeit their chance at the costumes/music/minions in order to give everyone a buff that's mandatory to clear the raid.
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BisbyWorl posted:One alliance has to forfeit their chance at the costumes/music/minions in order to give everyone a buff that's mandatory to clear the raid. Deleting housing districts would be more like deleting your save.
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I was afraid they went too hard too quick with the Weight of the World remix in the first raid. The only way to top that would be Emil (Despair)
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Third story has gone up. This one focusing on Emet and Elidibus.
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Ifrita, huh...
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man they just keep twisting the knife with regards to emet-selch
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HellCopter posted:I was afraid they went too hard too quick with the Weight of the World remix in the first raid. The only way to top that would be Emil (Despair) Remixes of Emil (Despair) and A Beautiful Song in the same raid would be incredible. Especially if they also bring back Weight of the World in a boss phase. Like, that might seem overly ambitious, but Dun Scaith has a similarly insane concentration of good music.
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BisbyWorl posted:Third story has gone up. This one focusing on Emet and Elidibus. drat, I was 100% wrong casting doubt on the "Elidibus was a kid" theory. hosed up
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Okay so I guess he's a kid
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in 5.5 we finally see the manifested, non-crystal form of zodiark. it's a squid now
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FFXIV's writers are really fuckin good at subtext. What started out as a "huh, that's an interesting theory" quickly spread across all the internet and now the short story comes out and yup, those things were all actually intended to be hints.
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Azem goes to defy "fate" itself to save a rare gathering point.
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Azem saves an island by realising that they cannot fight a volcano so they turn the volcano into a primal so they can punch it Truly, we are the inheritor of that legacy
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SirSamVimes posted:Azem saves an island by realising that they cannot fight a volcano so they turn the volcano into a primal so they can punch it It's great. He truly was the proto-adventurer. 
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SirSamVimes posted:Azem saves an island by realising that they cannot fight a volcano so they turn the volcano into a primal so they can punch it Interestingly, that's basically what we've been doing with Eden but in reverse. She was on to something.
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Hogama posted:Azem goes to defy "fate" itself to save a rare gathering point.
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The grapes are just Azem picking the wry/joking answer to why they wants to save a bunch of people's homes instead of them being forced to relocate. It is probably also true though.
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https://twitter.com/archonbread/status/1304034871401218049?s=19
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Emet Selch going “but how could Azem get the concept of Ifrita— ugh, Hythlodaeus” is great
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Yeah, Shivalry does sound like something the Amaurotians would have invented.
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https://twitter.com/leveiilleur/status/1303991337822416900?s=19 So he's young and short but not a child E: In the Sunken Temple of Qarn, where Azeyma is worshipped, the combo to open the boss door is the fire of magic and the fruit of knowledge.  Gwapes. Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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I don't really care what it says in JP tbh
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I think it's neat to compare the various different localizations for stuff as long as people dont get weird about it
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Sure, but my point is that we shouldn't be acting like the conversation is just over because the JP version said X, if that wasn't clear.
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I mean, I feel like "the original writer specifically used a word for young adults and not children" does in fact wrap it up. Yes, he was quite young; no, he was not a kid.
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Rand Brittain posted:I mean, I feel like "the original writer specifically used a word for young adults and not children" does in fact wrap it up. There's no proof that the story was written in Japanese. I'm entirely serious here--interviews at fanfests etc in the past have mentioned that all the localization teams are involved in collaborating on story details.
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if people really dig the idea of him being a teenaged alphinaud-analogue type character thats cool too imo, personally I just prefer the idea of him being a young adult cuz I thought him being an actual kid sounded dumb as hell. the fanarts been super cute regardless https://twitter.com/_tnx88/status/1304049112107511808?s=20
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Rand Brittain posted:I mean, I feel like "the original writer specifically used a word for young adults and not children" does in fact wrap it up. Not only do we not know that the story was Japanese, as mentioned above, "seinen" does not actually have the exact same connotations as "young adult" does in English. It could very easily mean "teenager."
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Mister Olympus posted:There's no proof that the story was written in Japanese. From what I understand is that the scripts are written at the same time, but they use the same bible. As for the short story that people are referencing, I don’t know if one version is written before the other, but, given that the Japanese version doesn’t contradict the English one, it’s safe to assume it’s choices are canon
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There's also nothing stopping Elidibus form having been appointed to the Convocation as a child and this taking place a few years after that when he's grown up a bit. People aren't typically children their entire lives.
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At this point they've had multiple opportunities to make it clear that Elidibus was an Actual Kid and passed them by, so... Wait, the Alphinaud reference made me think of the twins and their eternal puberty, and I realized that FFXIV has teenager-adult colorblindness.
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