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Lmao that loving ruled and nobody is allowed to make fun of that and accept Brotherhood's useless zombie army that they devote three entire episodes to culling. Or the panda. Or the anime expression lines on Truth. Or the general tonal confusion.
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Sep 10, 2020 09:44
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you are beyond salvation
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Sep 10, 2020 09:45
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FMA 2003 was written by the same guy who wrote Genocyber and Angel Cop, which really says a lot All the IRL Germany stuff gets very uncomfortable in light of the latter, where the twist is literally just "actually, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion were real, and the protagonist has to fight the evil Jew banker cabal running the world" Just to make sure I'm being clear here, that's not a joke or me being edgy or exaggerating things, that's actually in Angel Cop
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Sep 10, 2020 09:57
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Beefstew posted:Or the general tonal confusion. After someone pointed out that the 2003 anime uses a woman getting raped to give the main character a tiny bit of development, you responded with a joke about your waifu not getting enough screentime being almost inexcusable. I'm not sure anyone should trust your ability to understand tone.
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Sep 10, 2020 10:48
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Dire Lemming posted:After someone pointed out that the 2003 anime uses a woman getting raped to give the main character a tiny bit of development, you responded with a joke about your waifu not getting enough screentime being almost inexcusable. I'm not sure anyone should trust your ability to understand tone. I didn't respond to them, but nice try. Keep up the bad faith posting.
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Sep 10, 2020 10:53
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Beefstew posted:I didn't respond to them, but nice try. Keep up the bad faith posting. That is technically true, you responded to my post reacting to theirs instead. That doesn't really change anything about you being tone deaf but it is true I will grant you that.
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Sep 10, 2020 10:59
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Dire Lemming posted:That is technically true, you responded to my post reacting to theirs instead. That doesn't really change anything about you being tone deaf but it is true I will grant you that. Whatever you say. You're clearly not acting in anything resembling good faith and I'm not interested in debating your projections that you only bring up because you disagree with me on an anime. But if anyone else was upset by that, then I apologize.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:09
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Beefstew posted:Whatever you say. You're clearly not acting in anything resembling good faith and I'm not interested in debating your projections that you only bring up because you disagree with me on an anime. intentional or not this was a pretty lovely context to say "nuh uh": YggiDee posted:It's worse! Once Edward leaves town, the military comes back and gang rapes her and she spends much of the rest of the series mute from the trauma, while carrying her rape baby. I think she only shows up in the finale because the villain wants to steal her body. Dire Lemming posted:neat Beefstew posted:It is, sorry.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:16
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDhQjmwEdD4
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Sep 10, 2020 11:18
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sexpig by night posted:A) if you want 'gold standard for an anime dealing with no more source material well' that's called Trigun. Speaking of dubs because THAT IS WHAT THIS THREAD IS NOW DO NOT STOP IT I'm sure the original Japanese is fine and all but Johnny Yong Bosch is living rent free in my head as Vash since I watched it. Also Leonard Nimoy's son Jeff as Wolfwood who should have done way more stuff. Unrelated to dubs but good news: https://twitter.com/StreamerBans/status/1303848189045477379 It would be better news but he'll probably just move to stream on YouTube and not much will change. Also it took them two months.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:39
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holy gently caress I knew that guy personally for a bit. I'm genuinely sick.
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Sep 10, 2020 11:50
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nine-gear crow posted:Evangelion is the gold standard in running out of money, making the leap, and then breaking your audiences' brains so hard they still
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Sep 10, 2020 12:10
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While FMA Brotherhood has a better overall story I thought the pacing in the original FMA anime was much better. I watched Brotherhood week to week as it aired on Toonami and it definitely felt like nothing was happening for chunks of the back half of the story.
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Sep 10, 2020 12:29
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Hunter x Hunter has a really good dub
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Sep 10, 2020 12:35
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Hunter x Hunter has a really good dub Oh no. Now we're gonna get into a debate of which adaptation of HxH is better.
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Sep 10, 2020 12:39
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I like Brotherhood more overall and definitely prefer the ending but I think both it and 03 suffer from weak final villains. In 03 the villain isn't really introduced until close to the end so there isn't much investment in them and with Brotherhood I thought Father was a bit too much of a JRPG end boss by the end. Not offensively bad or anything, just something I've seen a bunch of times by now. Bradley would have been a better main antagonist in Brotherhood. There's a bigger focus on imperialism and Roy and CO's focus on dismantling the government in this version of the show and Bradley is the embodiment of all of that. Put him and his ideology in more direct conflict with Ed and I think it would be a much stronger final fight if he's the one they are all banding together to overcome.
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Sep 10, 2020 12:43
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DeafNote posted:Oh no. Now we're gonna get into a debate of which adaptation of HxH is better. 2011 is bad, I haven't seen the 90s one
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Sep 10, 2020 12:48
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Junpei Hyde posted:2011 is bad, I haven't seen the 90s one 
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Sep 10, 2020 12:51
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I liked HxH at first but once the first arc is over and it switches to just the adventures of Gon and Killua I thought it went really downhill. Also not a fan of how much of the story after that point is character shows up with a new power, story grinds to a halt as new power is explained. Then there's the Chimera Ant stuff which is so over the top grimdark that it is ridiculous.
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Sep 10, 2020 13:08
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i think hxh 2011 had some ludicrously well-composed action scenes and did very well at keeping a ton of interweaving fights and chases impactful and clear but it has problems with tonal whiplash, especially in just dropping the fallout of the "darker" segments and moving on
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Sep 10, 2020 13:15
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All i know about HxH is that one scene where the supersoldier ant is boasting about how his people made him as the ultimate combination as a warrior to defeat the giant menace that is a human, only for some old bastard to laugh at the ants puny attempts to stand up to one human when there are billions more. Outside of anything else that is a cool setup for a short story where a group puts all their effort into defeating on monolithic enemy at great cost only to find out that the enemy was merely one of many and the cosmic horror is realizing how small and insignificant people are compared to the unknowable vastness of existence.
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Sep 10, 2020 13:15
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So with Hunter Hunter 2011 is there any particular reason the pacing gets so abysmally bad as it goes on. Like was it all explained with pop out boxes in the manga, or were there production issues, or something? They keep having the action stop to explain something already clearly present on screen or that should be demonstrated with visual storytelling, but just isn't.
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Sep 10, 2020 13:23
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I don’t read a lot of manga but FMA was one of the best that I followed. Having watched/read everything except Sacred Star it is my ideal way of consuming FMA.
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Sep 10, 2020 13:25
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Sure love that arc where half of it is explaining Nen in the most drawn out way possible and it all boils down to how a glass of water and a leaf react to your chi. And then half of the Nen powers that show up are just specialist so it didn't matter ever.
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Sep 10, 2020 13:26
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i found brotherhood tremendously more satisfying than the original if only because envy in the 2003 anime was a wretched, untouchable creator's pet and seeing his "true" characterization as a petulant child who gets mudstomped every time he can't fall back on his shapeshifting was very cathartic people pooh-pooh his final immolation by mustang but on top of being one of the top 5 greatest smackdowns in the entire medium it also makes sense that even a career soldier's personality might be negatively affected from learning he can just violently incinerate whoever pisses him off, especially if he's poised to assume control of an entire nation
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Sep 10, 2020 13:30
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FMA 03 is the most early 2000's anime possible (Read: Absolute Edgelord Trash) and HxH is good. Sorry about all the bad ideas you have.
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Sep 10, 2020 13:32
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Having not watched Hunter x Hunter everything about it sounds like a poo poo-post. A cast of weird names with goofy designs, that wastes half of its runtime on an island with ant-people, picks off side-characters in rather graphic manner, and then the arts devolves into chicken scratches.
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Sep 10, 2020 13:39
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Arcsquad12 posted:All i know about HxH is that one scene where the supersoldier ant is boasting about how his people made him as the ultimate combination as a warrior to defeat the giant menace that is a human, only for some old bastard to laugh at the ants puny attempts to stand up to one human when there are billions more. it's better/worse than that, the old guy doesn't boast about humanity's numbers but goes "lol we're more horrifically evil and destructive than you can even comprehend, check this out" and then commits suicide, setting off a dirty nuke that had been put into him with a deadman's switch and killing the ant (and most everyone else in the region, eventually) with radiation poisoning
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Sep 10, 2020 13:48
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Furiously accusing someone of bad faith arguments over which cartoon adaption of my prized steampunk shonen wizard series is superior.
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Sep 10, 2020 14:01
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The Hunter X Hunter 2011 anime is fantastic but, from what I understand, it adapts the source material way too faithfully. Which is why the Chimera Ant arc has like 20 minutes of narration before showing you, visually, what was just explained to you. Also why other problems exist in it (because it didn't change source stuff). People talk up that arc like it's supreme genius, the greatest shounen stuff ever created by humankind forever but I found it to be a slog and outright cruel, at times. The arc before it was so much better.
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Sep 10, 2020 14:40
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Well I liked the 2011 anime a lot! I thought it was really well done, and never really dragged that much.
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Sep 10, 2020 14:43
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There's a point in Chimera Ant where the already-overbearing narrator just outright says the main theme of the arc, and that's about where I gave up on enjoying it.
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Sep 10, 2020 14:44
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Yeah there were episodes with a lot of narration. But I found that quirk to be more funny than enraging. And for me I have to say Chimera Ant definitely lived up to the hype.
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Sep 10, 2020 14:48
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Jimbot posted:The arc before it was so much better.
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Sep 10, 2020 14:54
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BFC posted:I need this explained. The arc before the Chimera Ant stuff is an isekai story arc with a lot of video game-y stuff to it, but in a shocking twist is actually good.
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Sep 10, 2020 14:56
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Srice posted:The arc before the Chimera Ant stuff is an isekai story arc with a lot of video game-y stuff to it, but in a shocking twist is actually good. Having seen Greed Island, I do not understand this sentence.
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Sep 10, 2020 15:00
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I am well aware what Greed Island is I just need to know how someone would think it is "way better" than Chimera Ants and I don't even like HxH.
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Sep 10, 2020 15:04
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Junpei Hyde posted:Having seen Greed Island, I do not understand this sentence. They're transported to a video game-inspired place with a lot of set Rules to it, but unlike a lot of shows that are about that, it was actually good.
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Sep 10, 2020 15:06
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Srice posted:it was actually good. See, I still don't get this part.
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Sep 10, 2020 15:07
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