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I got a 100% warscore on this duchy conquest against England, but I enforce my demands and I get jack loving poo poo from the war? What the hell? EDIT: Seeing some scattered reports about this around the net, the duchy in question for me was Wessex toasterwarrior fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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I just demanded payment from an 11-year-old leper on the assumption that he wouldn't be able to increase his wealth to pay the full amount of his hook  I have to keep this crappy empire afloat somehow
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Sep 11, 2020 07:24
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:That tribal former duke has managed to blob up in the heart of my empire because he has more troops than the rest of us combined. Tribalism is kinda a trap. You’re very strong in it, transitioning out is hard, but the longer time goes on the more of a wet noodle tribals become due to their inability to progress the tech tree and get big boy quantities of men at arms and knights. I think the idea is to represent how early on in history the tribal migrations hosed up early feudals pretty bad. But that doesn’t last forever.
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Sep 11, 2020 08:09
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Where do I get a Keep? All of my building upgrades seem to require one, and I can't find it anywhere.
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Sep 11, 2020 08:10
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Where do I get a Keep? All of my building upgrades seem to require one, and I can't find it anywhere. Its a separate upgrade line, the button for it is right above your other upgrade/build icons. Jeza posted:The served human flesh event...but it was delicious... Some dude earned fame on reddit by being the first to imprison and eat the pope. Sekenr fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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Sep 11, 2020 08:20
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Tribal buildings not carrying over is the biggest gently caress you of the Tribal-> Feudal transition right now. This was solved in CK2 and seeing it just be a huge issue is really annoying here. There's no point building anything as a tribe now and you just want to blitz as much as you can until you have the stupidly large bank to transition. Or do the whole migratory thing and take over someone Feudal so you don't have to build infrastructure.
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Sep 11, 2020 08:36
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Jaytan posted:You can murder plot a grand child without any special trait (unlike a direct child). Babies at your court should be very easy to murder. Yeah, this wasn't possible. My first king married his future heir to the duchess of ulster so that the duchy would eventually fall into my dynasty's possession. But he wasn't his heir at the time. It took my primary heir dying of his wounds and disinheriting all of his grandkids (one of which was a possessed niece who attempted to seduce her own grandfather, the king) just to get my 2nd cool son onto the throne. Eventually, the new king's first wife died suddenly and my new primary heir inherited the duchy from his mom. Then he died from illness (I think, I can't recall), but not before having 3 kids, all boys, who all grew up before this happened. The 2 younger grandkids straight left to join courts in distant lands. Far enough away that there was no way to interact with them. The oldest grandkid became my new primary heir. He stuck around because he was the new duke of ulster when his dad died. I could disinherit or kill him pretty easy, but then one of his two idiot brothers that I couldn't touch would have gotten the throne. So I stuck with the devil I knew. The devil I know kind of sucks. Basically because of distance I couldn't do anything to those shitheads, which is weird to me. Write a quick message to everyone that says "this guy isn't getting poo poo from me". Maybe send some poor sap across Europe to deliver a copy to the person in question.
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Sep 11, 2020 08:41
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Is there a way to press any claims I have when I have a liege? I'm seeing if I can create Austria early, and I'm inside East Francia, and i have managed to get claim against someone else inside East Francia, but I can't seem to figure out how to acquire the land without starting a revolution.
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Sep 11, 2020 08:42
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twistedmentat posted:Is there a way to press any claims I have when I have a liege? I'm seeing if I can create Austria early, and I'm inside East Francia, and i have managed to get claim against someone else inside East Francia, but I can't seem to figure out how to acquire the land without starting a revolution. If you are both under the same liege you can declare war on them directly without the liege getting involved at all, unless crown authority is at high or absolute, which prevents vassals from declaring war on each other. If this is the case you'll need to start/join a liberty faction to bring it down.
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Sep 11, 2020 08:57
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I kinda feel it should be harder for random 60 y old schmucks to seduce your wife if she's your friend, lover and soulmate. And also, I declared war on a county that somehow only has a city in it, and since there's no castle, there's nothing to siege, so I can't get the war objective.
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Sep 11, 2020 09:03
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The loving first two minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-jl86vOs30
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Sep 11, 2020 09:04
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twistedmentat posted:Is there a way to press any claims I have when I have a liege? Either get a hook on them, or start/join a faction to limit their crown authority.
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Sep 11, 2020 09:07
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Eimi posted:Tribal buildings not carrying over is the biggest gently caress you of the Tribal-> Feudal transition right now. This was solved in CK2 and seeing it just be a huge issue is really annoying here. There's no point building anything as a tribe now and you just want to blitz as much as you can until you have the stupidly large bank to transition. Or do the whole migratory thing and take over someone Feudal so you don't have to build infrastructure. You really should build up your own lands as a tribal if only because it's extremely important in order to get ahead of your fellow tribals/vassals. The war camp especially is extremely useful for tribals. Edit: Meh, I literally cannot win this war since I can't capture the objective, and the combat + occupation modifiers aren't stacking up enough to offset the negative objective score. Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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Sep 11, 2020 09:12
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Captain Oblivious posted:Tribalism is kinda a trap. You’re very strong in it, transitioning out is hard, but the longer time goes on the more of a wet noodle tribals become due to their inability to progress the tech tree and get big boy quantities of men at arms and knights. I have decided to make peace with this and am now rolling with the punches. Every kingdom on my border and even the vassals of the ones I granted independence are tearing chunks off the empire but I am just going to hunker down for a while. The intrigue path doesn't take a lot of money (and once I get a second scheme slot I'll start hooking again) and I will just kidnap my way through this -- already managed to snatch one war from the jaws of defeat by throwing my allies as meatshields until the 3 years (!) for the kidnap plot popped off and then I won
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Sep 11, 2020 09:18
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Yeah, I finally feudalized successfully and it was pretty rough. My levies shrunk from 21000+ to about 9000 and my gold economy was in the tank for a while, but I managed to recover by extorting vassals, selling minor titles, and warring a lot for prisoners to ransom out and/or execute for dread (50% less men-at-arms upkeep takes a healthy chunk out of monthly expenditures, and helps keep people in line). Now I'm back to sitting on a few thousand gold and earning 25/mo or so in peacetime, which is at least a positive development. If you pick your targets, you can get away with not raising levies at all and just using your men-at-arms, and frankly... the power to magically teleport your men-at-arms all over the world at will is kinda broken. Also the Catholic church hasn't had a pope in decades and the Papal States don't exist, Italy is a mess of border-gore being slowly choked from either end by the Byzantine Empire and Francia, so at least there hasn't been a crusade to mess up my stride in a while. Unfortunately, succession has been even more of a problem because I have so many vassals that I'm having trouble getting the electors to vote on the same heir across the empire. Britannia already splintered off (although it's a lot smaller than you might think). Meanwhile my vassals conquered almost all of Iberia without me doing anything. It just slowly happened. Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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Sep 11, 2020 09:25
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I saved up about 10k gold to build up my provinces, and it's going okay. One thing I do wish though is that the "found university" idea could move to other provinces if possible. I built up my lovely part of the world to 20 development before 1050 AD, throw me a bone paradox.
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Sep 11, 2020 09:26
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The Cheshire Cat posted:If you are both under the same liege you can declare war on them directly without the liege getting involved at all, unless crown authority is at high or absolute, which prevents vassals from declaring war on each other. If this is the case you'll need to start/join a liberty faction to bring it down. They must have a high rank of crown authority because if i just straight up declare war on them, that brings the whole kingdom down on me.
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Sep 11, 2020 09:28
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Here's a quote about education from the Pdox forums for inquiring minds:quote:The education system ticks on a child's birthday from ages 7 to 15. tl;dr the best way to ensure a good education is to match the stat they're being educated in with a high stat on the guardian, with also high learning on the guardian, and have an intelligence trait on the guardian if possible. Of course, the educator will also choose their traits, so you might end up with some lazy craven heirs if you don't pay attention to that. All the more reason to breed geniuses is so you can handle childhood education yourself and control trait acquisition.
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Sep 11, 2020 09:32
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Captain Oblivious posted:Tribalism is kinda a trap. You’re very strong in it, transitioning out is hard, but the longer time goes on the more of a wet noodle tribals become due to their inability to progress the tech tree and get big boy quantities of men at arms and knights. Of course this depends on how long you actually stick with your playthrough. If you're actually going all the way to the end date then yeah, it's a problem. Personally I rarely play much longer after I've formed or usurped whatever my local empire title is and taken all its de jure territory.
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Sep 11, 2020 09:34
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I do feel like there should be more to be getting on with when not at war. The thing that makes CK fun is character elements and there needs to be more of them.
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Sep 11, 2020 09:36
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Magil Zeal posted:Here's a quote about education from the Pdox forums for inquiring minds: Cool find. It's nice to see the actual numbers going on there. Some of the stuff I assumed had an effect but wasn't sure how like with the intelligence traits. The learning bonus I wouldn't have figured out on my own, although it makes sense.
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Sep 11, 2020 09:51
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What's the best way to spin off a dynasty member with an empire title? I'm in a position to form the empire of Francia and I'd like to hand it off to one of the other cadet branches of the line, but the Kingdom of France is a vassal, not a direct title I hold. I can't give the king I want to make an Emperor the vassal beforehand because they're the same rank, and I can't seem to send my own vassals to other empires (I tried to pawn off a de jure vassal to the HRE and couldn't see an option) Is tyranny to revoke the france kingdom title my only option?
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Sep 11, 2020 09:57
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Magil Zeal posted:tl;dr the best way to ensure a good education is to match the stat they're being educated in with a high stat on the guardian, with also high learning on the guardian, and have an intelligence trait on the guardian if possible. Huh. So the guardian's other stats have no effect? Well that makes the Sum of skills sort order rather less relevant. I suppose it still has some value for spouses if (say) stewardship ability is inherited.
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Sep 11, 2020 10:04
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Oh dear me posted:Huh. So the guardian's other stats have no effect? Well that makes the Sum of skills sort order rather less relevant. I suppose it still has some value for spouses if (say) stewardship ability is inherited. The subject is purely about the rank of the education trait you get, I can't say anything else about how their base skills grow. There is one other thing to consider: sometimes your spouse will give your child's education a boost (unknown what effect it has at this time). This is only possible if they have at least 8 learning and a focus (assist ruler, etc.).
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Sep 11, 2020 10:09
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So after feudalizing, I started building up cities and temples in my holdings. Somehow these were automatically given out to random people in the realm, and some of the temples ended up in the hands of my main heir, which disinherited him since he's now a temple vassal I guess. Not complaining since I wanted my second son to inherit anyways, and this saves me some trouble, but it was a bit strange.
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Sep 11, 2020 10:15
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Kanfy posted:Is this a bug or am I missing something, I'm fighting a war for the county of Dihistan but I'm somehow only occupying a part of it, so it's not contributing to my war score. So from the lack of replies, I'm guessing this is indeed just a bug and I've no choice but to have to try and get enough war score without being able to actually properly occupy my war goal?
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Sep 11, 2020 10:19
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I've only got one temple and it's held by my religious councillor, so I'm not sure, but maybe your religious head just granted him the title and he took it because he had nothing better?Kanfy posted:So from the lack of replies, I'm guessing this is indeed just a bug and I've no choice but to have to try and get enough war score without being able to actually properly occupy my war goal? I've seen the AI end up in this situation somehow, where they only occupied a single barony instead of the whole county, but I don't know what causes it. Multiple castles in the same county?
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Sep 11, 2020 10:20
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Has anyone else accidentally declared war for the wrong province yet like me? The new UI is taking some getting used to..
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Sep 11, 2020 10:22
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I have accepted calls to war when I meant to decline them, maybe like five times at this point
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Sep 11, 2020 10:24
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Kanfy posted:So from the lack of replies, I'm guessing this is indeed just a bug and I've no choice but to have to try and get enough war score without being able to actually properly occupy my war goal? Is the unoccupied holding a temple? Whoever owns the county might be holding it if they're Muslim, so you'd have to siege it down, too. Otherwise 
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Sep 11, 2020 10:27
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Kanfy posted:So from the lack of replies, I'm guessing this is indeed just a bug and I've no choice but to have to try and get enough war score without being able to actually properly occupy my war goal?
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Sep 11, 2020 10:34
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w0o0o0o posted:Has anyone else accidentally declared war for the wrong province yet like me? It's more disappointing when you think your fighting a invasion of a whole kingdom, but when you win, after years of fighting, you only get 1-3 provinces. Double read what you click when you declare war...
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Sep 11, 2020 10:35
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While we're talking about geniuses... I started a new game as Duchess Matilda di Canossa and married a genius guy, and hoooo boy  I'd say the succession is safe unless  happens and I can start looking outwards. What's the best path to ultimate success with Matilda? I'm guessing I need a kingdom to avoid having to fight my genius brothers as my genius heir, but the Kingdom of Italy seems like a pain to acquire enough land to form. I already got a hook on the HRE emperor and used it to put free wars in my feudal contract so I can just smash my neighbors if need be but they have alliances and it'd be a slog. Might be better to form a custom kingdom? I could start nibbling on the southern part of Italy, the duchy of Capua would be easy pickings and then I can start loving with Robert the Fox (if he doesn't have an "accident" before then)
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Sep 11, 2020 10:56
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So do you always start with partition succession or are there some that don't have it? I like to play CK2 as mostly a chill kingdom builder and its a lot harder to be chill where i have to rush to having a kingdom so i don't have to reconquer a bunch of poo poo from my siblings I'm also interested in some characters who start wtih intrigue or stewardship lifestyles all mine have been diplomacy or war lol
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Sep 11, 2020 11:02
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I have a duke-level Muslim in my game that has held all of the de jure territory of Aquitaine, Barcelona and Aragon in my game, but he's/his descendants have never bothered to claim themselves as emperor, much less King. Which seems really weird. You'd think they'd take at least one of the available titles.
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Sep 11, 2020 11:12
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TorakFade posted:While we're talking about geniuses... I started a new game as Duchess Matilda di Canossa and married a genius guy, and hoooo boy Not sure how easy it is to grab, or if you would even want to - but Sardinia has a kingdom title that only requires 5 counties.
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Sep 11, 2020 11:12
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TorakFade posted:While we're talking about geniuses... I started a new game as Duchess Matilda di Canossa and married a genius guy, and hoooo boy I pushed south as Matilda and swiped enough land to usurp the Kingdom of Romagna from the Pope. Sure, he hated it, but even big papa can't say no to the Imperial Vicar of Italy  Then I set my sights on returning Rome to secular rule, forming Italia, and marrying into Byzantium to reform Rome.
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Sep 11, 2020 11:17
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It can be a sweet deal being a "vassal." For some reason, some years after doing all this, the Emperor of Germania also handed me control of pretty much everyone in Europe that was duke or lower. No really good way to show it in a single image, but the "empire" is basically my kingdom + a light crust of smaller kingdoms around me.
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Sep 11, 2020 11:19
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Jose posted:So do you always start with partition succession or are there some that don't have it? I like to play CK2 as mostly a chill kingdom builder and its a lot harder to be chill where i have to rush to having a kingdom so i don't have to reconquer a bunch of poo poo from my siblings Until I have High partition I don't want a kingdom anyway because in the division my heir will get wat fewer counties if they have a fancy title. I reckon it's better to concentrate on becoming a learned dynasty that gets High partition soonest. quote:I'm also interested in some characters who start wtih intrigue or stewardship lifestyles all mine have been diplomacy or war lol If you do 'play as any character in <date>', character stats are randomized, so you can quit to main menu and start again if you don't like them.
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I wish nicknames were more common, but the only one I ever see is “the Foolish” from that one event.
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