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prom candy posted:Is there like a general war strategy and tactics video or write up? Like how many dudes I need and what kinds, where to place them, etc? Also if someone declares war on me and I don't want to dominate should I go after their cities or just play defense? crossbowmen. more than that. no, more than that.
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And if you're doing a really early war, just warriors/swordsmen. More. Make a walking carpet. Surround cities and just beat them down. It's surprisingly effective til crossbows show up to ruin your fun.
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If you throw that much early production into units is there anything you need to do afterward to catch up on the things you neglected or at that point are you just trying to kill everyone as quickly as possible?
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prom candy posted:If you throw that much early production into units is there anything you need to do afterward to catch up on the things you neglected or at that point are you just trying to kill everyone as quickly as possible? Yeah you will be VERY behind so it's just both knowing when to cut off production and being strategic with what you build. You have to basically fully wipe out someone for it to be worth it. IF you get their capital, it entirely is, especially if they built a wonder or two. The other big thing is getting a whatever the product bonus when you take a city plaza building.
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The trick of it is, you're not just flatly choosing units over, say, districts - you're making units in order to STEAL districts. If your neighbor spends all their production building a campus while you're building archers, and then you take that city, now it's YOUR campus.
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:My problem is that you can win with a handful of cities in VI, but you are just playing with a self-induced handicap. There is no disadvantage at all for having another city, and you can build a large well developed city regardless of how many other cities you have. In Civ V you could have 4-5 cities and go blow-for-blow against another Civ with 20 cities in science and culture. You can set up a one-city win megacity in VI, but you could have done the same thing while still building out an empire with other cities. In V building out actually gave you penalties for your new cities to overcome. Why can't you do both? It's completely fine (and great actually) to build an initial batch of settlers, then have those first cities never sacrifice anything at all and go as tall as possible. Why do you need some kind of dumb negative incentive for additional cities?
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showbiz_liz posted:The trick of it is, you're not just flatly choosing units over, say, districts - you're making units in order to STEAL districts. If your neighbor spends all their production building a campus while you're building archers, and then you take that city, now it's YOUR campus.
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Dick Trauma posted:Was going to try that apostle skill to convert barbarians and when I was just 1 hex away a barbarian missile boat popped up and blasted him. The Sentinelese really upped their game.
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Next frontier pass update should come out within the next 2 weeks, curious what the new game mode will be. I'm still holding out hope for civ to get an actual rebellion and colonialism mechanic. edit: apparently we will know what tomorrow! John F Bennett fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Sep 12, 2020 |
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Sep 12, 2020 10:31
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I've been enjoying the gently caress out of the updates so far, especially the random science/culture techs/civics as my usual play style is to have everything on random. With that last update, I wonder if the trees are randomly scrambled per civ or if everyone in that game gets the same randomised trees? I get some civs offering to trade uranium with me when I end up finding it right at the back of my tree.
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ellspurs posted:I've been enjoying the gently caress out of the updates so far, especially the random science/culture techs/civics as my usual play style is to have everything on random. Everyone gets the same randomized tech and culture trees at the beginning of a game. By luck of the draw someone might unlock a strategic resource way early just by accidentally finding the most direct route and essentially beelining it.
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John F Bennett posted:Next frontier pass update should come out within the next 2 weeks, curious what the new game mode will be. I'm still holding out hope for civ to get an actual rebellion and colonialism mechanic. https://twitter.com/civgame/status/1305521687178309633?s=21 New civs: Byzantium and Gauls New wonders: Statue of Zeus and Biosphere New mode: Dramatic Ages
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Really excited about dramatic ages and Gaul. I also wonder if the dramatic age options will make Georgia suck less.
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Gaul: crowd cheering Byzantines: crowd booing Dramatic Ages: crowd has visible confusion
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I’m surprised they decided to buff Georgia, I kinda figured they just gave up on them and weren’t gonna address the utter mediocrity that is the Georgian civ.
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SaturdayKnight posted:I’m surprised they decided to buff Georgia, I kinda figured they just gave up on them and weren’t gonna address the utter mediocrity that is the Georgian civ. The buff is gamemode specific, so it was probably a memo or something to bring it inline with how it was originally intended to work with the game mode, since the Dramatic Ages is in turn a return to the original vision of how Ages work. Rimusutera fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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Struggling a bit with the additional game mechanics of the Rising Storm but did manage to get one Golden Age to balance out a Dark Age. I do like the added tweaks of the ages and governors but the return of the generally crappy World Congress and the diplomatic point system annoys me.
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Rimusutera posted:The buff is gamemode specific. It’s still an acknowledgment that Georgia sucks. Which makes it even weirder that the buff only applies in one game mode because 
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SaturdayKnight posted:It’s still an acknowledgment that Georgia sucks. Which makes it even weirder that the buff only applies in one game mode because I don't think its the acknowledgement Georgia sucks that you think it is. Mostly because Georgia doesn't strictly suck anyway.
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I don’t think it’s a major buff at all. I don’t think they’ve really done much at all, it’s just interesting that they did anything to Georgia. I figured they’d moved on and forgotten them, especially with how often the community complains that Georgia is very meh.
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Again, Georgia doesn't actually "suck" and has received a number of indirect or direct adjustments over the course of development and patches since Rise and Fall, which is when it was widely recognized as incredibly weak. They're still not one of the most powerful civs, but getting bottom rank on a metagame community tier list doesn't mean the Civ is actually out of line of how its intended to function, especially since continued popular complaints about Georgia often demonstrate an ignorance of how the Civ functions anyway. Edit: I cant believe I didn't point this out already explicitly but literally one of the things that the new game mode is doing is actually taking away something from how Georgia functions normally, which is what most likely is the actual motivation for giving themsomething new in the Dramatic Ages mode. Georgia normally gets era score from their dedication in Golden Ages, helping keep them in Normal Ages or back to back Golden Ages, but getting a Normal Age and thus having the distinction between how Dedications function in Normal Versus Golden Ages is actually not even a thing in the mode. Which makes them weaker without a fix. Rimusutera fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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Rimusutera posted:Again, Georgia doesn't actually "suck" and has received a number of indirect or direct adjustments over the course of development and patches since Rise and Fall, which is when it was widely recognized as incredibly weak. They're still incredibly weak and going "nuh uh" does not really make a convincing argument that Georgia is not real bad
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The Mattybee posted:They're still incredibly weak and going "nuh uh" does not really make a convincing argument that Georgia is not real bad Asserting an untrue premise, that Georgia both *needs* a patch and hasn't gotten any attention since its release, over and over again isn't a convincing argument yet here we are. Georgia is one of the weaker Civs but its been brought into more functional territory over successive patching and major game expansions. Its not been forgotten about.
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Dramatic Ages sounds great! It sounds like I thought the ages would work back when they came out. So far, there's no single game mode I want to turn off. This seems like another one I won't play without. I really like what they're doing with this Civ game lately.
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Rimusutera posted:Asserting an untrue premise, that Georgia both *needs* a patch and hasn't gotten any attention since its release, over and over again isn't a convincing argument yet here we are. Georgia is one of the weaker Civs but its been brought into more functional territory over successive patching and major game expansions. Its not been forgotten about. Georgia is still really bad and "being slightly less awful but strictly outclassed by just about every other civ" definitely falls under "needs a patch" to me, especially because they haven't changed the bonuses being fundamentally terrible
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I'm hoping the leader of Gaul is Vercingetorix and it's solely because he has a cool name. Don't know enough about Byzantium to guess on that one, maybe Irene of Athens would be cool? We will probably get one of the Justinians or Constantines or Theodora again. Anyway I'm hype to play as Gaul and Byzantium and also the painful humor of these videos they keep releasing is going to kill me.
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The Mattybee posted:Georgia is still really bad and "being slightly less awful but strictly outclassed by just about every other civ" definitely falls under "needs a patch" to me, especially because they haven't changed the bonuses being fundamentally terrible I disagree with it being even outclassed by nearly every other Civ at this point. That said this argument is tertiary to my main point as to why it likely got attention & changes so I don't get what point litigating this argument about how loving awful Georgia is supposed to be proves. Its been zeroed in on repeatedly and repeated in spite of what else I've said. If you want to have this discussion, what exactly do you think is so bad about Georgia, and what do other mediocre/middle of the road Civs have over it?
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John F Bennett posted:Dramatic Ages sounds great! It sounds like I thought the ages would work back when they came out. I've been turning off Apocalypse mode mainly due to solar flares. gently caress that poo poo
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Yeah secret societies is fun to mess around with weird synergies and various civs but I can live without my cities being constantly owned by storms every 10 turns. Dramatic ages seems like another permanently switched on mode to me. Cards for golden age policies seems like a good way to change things up.
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I've never actually played a Georgia game but I love Tamar as an AI opponent because of her hilariously grim personality.
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showbiz_liz posted:I've never actually played a Georgia game but I love Tamar as an AI opponent because of her hilariously grim personality. The quote when she accepts your friendship is so 
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SaturdayKnight posted:Yeah secret societies is fun to mess around with weird synergies and various civs but I can live without my cities being constantly owned by storms every 10 turns. Dramatic ages seems like another permanently switched on mode to me. Cards for golden age policies seems like a good way to change things up. OTOH volcanoes
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It's so funny to me when the devs talk about all the time they spend on the apparently meticulously realized leader animations, because my computer is so crappy that it defaulted to displaying static images on those screens from the first time I booted up the game, so I've literally never seen the animations except in these videos.
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showbiz_liz posted:It's so funny to me when the devs talk about all the time they spend on the apparently meticulously realized leader animations, because my computer is so crappy that it defaulted to displaying static images on those screens from the first time I booted up the game, so I've literally never seen the animations except in these videos. I'm in the same boat, ironically I'm planning on trying to get a better gaming computer for when Humankind rolls out, which would make how much time I spend on an improved Civ experience at that juncture entirely up in the air.
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Anyone recommend some good youtubers of high level single player play? I've got like 3000 hours into previous civs but am just getting into 6.
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My computer is more than powerful enough to display the leader animations, but I’ve always had them turned off because it doesn’t really appeal to me. I’m happy with the static images and when I play a game on my iPad it’s not as jarring because you don’t get a choice there, they’re required to be static.Nosre posted:Anyone recommend some good youtubers of high level single player play? I've got like 3000 hours into previous civs but am just getting into 6. Potato McWhiskey is a good youtuber for civ vi stuff. He’s got everything from tutorial videos to advanced strategies to loving around and doing dumb poo poo in the game. SaturdayKnight fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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Nosre posted:Anyone recommend some good youtubers of high level single player play? I've got like 3000 hours into previous civs but am just getting into 6. Marbozir, TheSaxyGamer & PotatoMcWhiskey all have a bunch of videos up. The latters been fun to watch quite a bit and is very knowledgeable about the game but he's started having an uptick in "triggered" references in his video commentary, as a fair warning. Rimusutera fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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showbiz_liz posted:It's so funny to me when the devs talk about all the time they spend on the apparently meticulously realized leader animations, because my computer is so crappy that it defaulted to displaying static images on those screens from the first time I booted up the game, so I've literally never seen the animations except in these videos. Same. I also exclusively play in strategic mode. I can play regular mode on huge maps with everything on lowest settings until the medieval age, then it starts to chug. Either way, with those low settings the game just looks bad and strategic view is so very pretty compared it, I love it.
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SaturdayKnight posted:Potato McWhiskey is a good youtuber for civ vi stuff. He’s got everything from tutorial videos to advanced strategies to loving around and doing dumb poo poo in the game. Rimusutera posted:Marbozir, TheSaxyGamer & PotatoMcWhiskey all have a bunch of videos up. Thanks guys! Will check some out
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