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love the direction ricardo's character seems to be going
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 01:55 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 19:42 |
i'm cracking up that there was a big long conversation about how one of the best boxers in history was also one of the most boring in history and then we get this
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 02:15 |
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Yeah, somehow that conversation just keeps getting more prescient, holy lol I do also like that Ricardo briefly puts forward taking hits as an option to up the excitement but immediately goes no, that's dumb.
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 02:36 |
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So basically Ricardo is Saitama now. I'm perfectly fine with this.
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 03:00 |
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He's been the undisputed champion for close to 13 years now. Of course he's probably got his way of doing things down to a science. Imagine if you worked on the same company, doing the same job for that long. A job that, while it might require for you to constantly perform some manner of self-actualization, has the same bare-rear end basics that never, ever change. You're gonna say "Wark, that's every job out there, you dumbass. Shut up and go back to your guitars/violin, you loving nerd!". Here's the thing, though: Martinez is like that Karen Kim lady from Kill Bill when The Bride finds out she's pregnant... Karen Kim, badass one-scene character posted:Not that I need to at this range, but I'm a brain loving surgeon with this shotgun. ... he's El Diablo. He's Quetzalcóatl. He's the motherfucking Huitzilopochtli. When you get those nicknames and earn them, people tend to put you on a pedestal and you hafta keep a certain appearance. You have a rep to keep. Which obviously he has to find exhausting more than a little at times, so of course Martinez is gonna want to break outta that stiff point once in a while, but changing all of a sudden is not how most lauded veterans do things. So he's gotta try to do things his own way. He's got a rep to keep, after all. And moreover, breaking out of a "rut", even if an insanely successful one, is hard as hell.
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 05:05 |
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he's too good at boxing to look cool. It's tragic.
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 05:26 |
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This may be the reason for his lack of ambition. But honestly he probably needs try and unify his title in all of the boxing organizations and or move up or down a weight class. (Though that might be hard as Richardo is fairly old for a boxer.)
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 06:33 |
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Either way, now we get to see Morikawa's side of the time old question, "How Would You Beat Floyd Mayweather". Let's hope it's not too ridiculous and someone actually tries it in real life the next time Mayweather fights, for the lulz. =P
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 06:33 |
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Huzzah! posted:chapter 1312 He didn't get punched in the face, he avoided it. It's even explicitly stated as such.
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 08:03 |
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Ricardo is also pretty clear that he can avoid punches like this on a whim, as getting hit would be 'letting himself get hit'
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 08:20 |
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Ricardo sucks and I hope he loses and cries a lot about it and everyone laughs at him
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 14:56 |
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Vagabundo posted:He didn't get punched in the face, he avoided it. It's even explicitly stated as such. Try reading what Huzzah actually wrote.
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 18:57 |
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Ah, the lament of the dominant champion. Hopefully Ricardo gets punched at least once.
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# ? Sep 10, 2020 19:08 |
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I dunno, if this is supposed to be as accurate to Mayweather as possible, the punches should be fast and weighty, but not like, Takamura-heavy. Mayweather has fragile hands, remember, and a lighter punch works psychologically to goad the other guy into going, "how am I losing to this guy that's not even punching me that hard?"
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 09:52 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I dunno, if this is supposed to be as accurate to Mayweather as possible, the punches should be fast and weighty, but not like, Takamura-heavy. Mayweather has fragile hands, remember, and a lighter punch works psychologically to goad the other guy into going, "how am I losing to this guy that's not even punching me that hard?" its not an explicit mayweather reference. its just a coincidence a few of us noticed cuz we were talking about him and a fighter that uses the philly shell came up in the story right afterwards. i woudln't read any more into it
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# ? Sep 11, 2020 15:40 |
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https://twitter.com/discotekmedia/status/1305676326720827392
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 02:33 |
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Just in case you don't click through and read the tweet right before those two: https://twitter.com/discotekmedia/status/1305676063398227968
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 02:37 |
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Oh wow, I might legit buy that.
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 02:50 |
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Is it the LatAm Spanish dub? That's so cool.
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 03:33 |
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Fabricated posted:Oh wow, I might legit buy that. Yeah, I can't remember the last time I actually purchased anime (especially with so much ending up on Netflix now anyway), but having all Ippo animations to skip through like a porno rewatching my favorite matchups would be pretty sweet. That goddamn season 1 theme music still gets to me
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 05:38 |
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I have never seen dvd’s for this show and the dub isn’t great either (no surprise given the era), so that’s really cool they decided to do this. Hopefully it sells well and they make more of the anime, but y’know skip a majority of the fights during Ippo’s OBPF era cause they really suck. Actually just thinking, did anything really noteworthy or good happen until Volg won his championship match? Feels like the series really stalled around then for years and years.
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 07:02 |
once again, i want to dive lost mind
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 07:09 |
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Asuron posted:I have never seen dvd’s for this show and the dub isn’t great either (no surprise given the era), so that’s really cool they decided to do this. Yeah that was definitely Ippo's Dark TimesTM. Miyata's last big fight was OK until the cop-out ending. Itagaki getting his poo poo wrecked in bullet time was pretty funny too. But Ippo himself had been boring for years before finally giving up the belt, and none of the other 3 gym mains have done anything of note in at least as long. The entire thread was pretty shocked at how good that random Volg fight was, it was like reading the manga from 10 years earlier.
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 07:46 |
Yeah honestly I prob would have bailed and picked this up again a couple (more) years down the line if the Volg fight hadn't been so good because by that point it had just been a few years of sub-par or just terrible fights and languishing plot. Right now I am still only kinda catching up once every 2-3 months or so with it.
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 11:54 |
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the anime can still show those fights and truncate them a ton fwiw, so it might not be too awful. hni is so weird with this. whenever i talk to ppl i genuinely like, can't FULLY recommend the series bc of its length and extremely varying quality the first 400 odd chapters are sublime, the next 400 are pretty awful, the third 400 are mostly good.
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 13:12 |
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Did not think Ricardo would be taken in this direction, but it makes so much sense and i'm loving it so far. The HnI anime is a solid recommend imho, agreed on the manga though. Longer than One Piece and some serious dips in quality.
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 14:05 |
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Just skip a few hundred chapters and come back for ippos retirement like I did
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 15:04 |
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Takes No Damage posted:Yeah that was definitely Ippo's Dark TimesTM. Miyata's last big fight was OK until the cop-out ending. Itagaki getting his poo poo wrecked in bullet time was pretty funny too. But Ippo himself had been boring for years before finally giving up the belt, and none of the other 3 gym mains have done anything of note in at least as long. The entire thread was pretty shocked at how good that random Volg fight was, it was like reading the manga from 10 years earlier.
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 15:25 |
Ippo's retirement and now very clear return are really artificial and dumb, but the events surrounding it have been pretty good and it's what got Morikawa to actually get the story moving again so I'd call it a net positive
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 16:23 |
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Patware posted:once again, i want to dive lost mind i have never stopped rolling go
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 16:24 |
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with a little perspective and time i'd unironically say most everything from the first alf fight onwards has been really good. i was getting testy for a while because i really just didn't trust that the story would be handled well, but it absolutely has imo. its obvious ippo will come back, but there's some interesting meta story going on w/ the author talking about himself i think and his own motivation for continuing to write
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# ? Sep 15, 2020 17:51 |
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Also there is a new chapter. http://hni-scantrad.com/eng/lel/?manga=Hajime+no+Ippo&chapter=Chapter+1313#page=1
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# ? Sep 16, 2020 00:08 |
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So Morikawa's idea to beat Mayweather is "punch moar"
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# ? Sep 16, 2020 01:32 |
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I'm pretty certain the idea comes more from a place like not letting him take the lead for/"drive" (please note that I know precious gently caress-all about boxing terminology) the match. Like to gently caress up McCallum's flow.
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# ? Sep 16, 2020 01:49 |
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It seems to me that it's more the idea of not falling into self inflicted mindgames. Be willing to take the risk and fight on your terms or he's just going to control the pace of the match. He thinks Ricardo has seen through everything he's done, so he's too afraid to make a move and how he's getting wailed on.
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# ? Sep 16, 2020 01:55 |
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go the gently caress to sleep sendo
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# ? Sep 16, 2020 02:29 |
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Basically, while he'd definitely take damage opening up to fight Ricardo, he's got the entirely wrong mindset, Ricardo is trying to get him to fight for selfish, non-strategy reasons. But he's convinced himself that leaving the defensive will open him up to a counter. Ricardo wants to be the kind of boxer Gonzales or Sendo are, but he also admits that, frankly, if he was getting hit like that, it'd be on purpose, as he's too good of a boxer to actually fall into a slugging match like that, and his own pride wont ever let him box 'stupid' It's incredibly fascinating for the character, He wants someone at his level to challenge him, but quite frankly there's no one at his level. If he was seeking a greater challenge he'd have to move up a weight class, but it's very likely that he's at a healthy, natural weight where he is, so pushing up a weight class would essentially be 'boxing stupid'
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# ? Sep 16, 2020 16:06 |
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It's neat but the obvious telegraphed solution to this is to power through his punches with burning samurai spirit to overwhelm his mechanically perfect defense.
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# ? Sep 16, 2020 17:01 |
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Fabricated posted:It's neat but the obvious telegraphed solution to this is to power through his punches with burning samurai spirit to overwhelm his mechanically perfect defense.
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# ? Sep 16, 2020 20:00 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 19:42 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:So Morikawa's idea to beat Mayweather is "punch moar" Bisse fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Sep 16, 2020 |
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