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Sep 15, 2020 17:02
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Some Goon posted:What did LF stand for? laissez's-faire the latest to-do in cspam is a poster saying "gonna kill myself cya" got the usual mental-health sixer, and this time it's being met by people screaming that the mods literally murdered them by issuing a probe instead of letting the rest of the thread "help" them we may overlook the fact that they couldn't "help" themselves to a second cupcake at a birthday party
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Sep 15, 2020 17:03
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Some Goon posted:What did LF stand for? Let's Fund. It was the proto-kickstarter forum for people to raise money to buy pants and stuff
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Sep 15, 2020 17:04
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Some Goon posted:What did LF stand for? Laissez faire, it was originally a libertarian posting culture place until they were all ejected by toxxing for McCain. Similarly C-SPAM current culture is directly attributable to a mass ejection of Clinton Toxxes. They stopped enforcing posting toxxes this year.
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Sep 15, 2020 17:07
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One More Fat Nerd posted:"I Was a Teenage Libertarian!" is the secret origin story for about 3/4 of the various socialists in CSPAM, so I wouldnt feel too bad about it. I knew a girl who read Ayn Rand at 19 and took like a whole decade to grow out of it. A lot makes sense given someone described libertarians as either on their way to socialism or on their way to fascism, it was basically the only vaguely viable alternative to otherwise omnipresent 00s neoliberalism
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Sep 15, 2020 17:10
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I thought like 100 people ate bans because they backed Bernie this year.
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Sep 15, 2020 17:10
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I’m trying to remember what Kyrie Eleison's deal was. I’m pretty sure they were tradcath fundamentalist, but wasn’t there something else going on too? Also I remember for a fact that in around 2006/07 I think there a sedevacantist poster who would only ever speak of "Nope Benedict". Anyone remember what their name was?
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Sep 15, 2020 17:10
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Solice Kirsk posted:All the tales I hear from CSPAM make it sound worse than LF. I post in cspam and lurked LF, and its never been as good as early LF, with the genuinely funny and informative effortposts about history and economics, and the infrateal/heebieGBS wars, etc. But its also never been as bad as late LF, which was absolutely dire and would occasionally just turn into the "suicidal ideation sharing zone" when it wasn't devolving into the most inane inter-leftist arguments (can you be a feminist AND still be a girl who likes dick? The answer is obviously yes unless you want feminism to be accessible to only like 10% of the population but lets have a 78 page incredibly bitter slapfight about it). There's still time tho, a Biden win will probably cause a total collapse, as without an imminent fascist threat many of the rage addicts will turn their whole attention on leftists who only 90% agree with them.
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Sep 15, 2020 17:15
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Well, I don't think we have to worry much about that.
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Sep 15, 2020 17:16
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MarcusSA posted:CSPAM is currently melting down over a probation that one of the mods gave. Care to link it? I saw the sixer and maybe three posts about it, none of which seemed all that meltdowny.
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Sep 15, 2020 17:25
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BurntCornMuffin posted:Care to link it? I saw the sixer and maybe three posts about it, none of which seemed all that meltdowny. It kinda starts about here, https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3926175&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1933 There is also a QCS thread about it.
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Sep 15, 2020 17:34
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Solice Kirsk posted:I thought like 100 people ate bans because they backed Bernie this year. I thought it was closer to 300, and the time/effort that had to go into enforcing it was why election toxxes are banned now.
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Sep 15, 2020 17:36
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sincere cspam posters like to imbue their posts with magical power but thinking that a thread can collectively talk someone off the edge of the abyss is one of the worst ideas for a goon project i've heard recently suicide threats should be probatable because a bunch of people on an internet forum are never going to be a substitute for a support group, as much as we all believe we are building a better future through the power of our posts One More Fat Nerd posted:I thought it was closer to 300, and the time/effort that had to go into enforcing it was why election toxxes are banned now. yeah, the reason mass toxxes are discouraged is that it's a ton of work for a joke
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Sep 15, 2020 17:38
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luxury handset posted:sincere cspam posters like to imbue their posts with magical power but thinking that a thread can collectively talk someone off the edge of the abyss is one of the worst ideas for a goon project i've heard recently Also the mods / admins ( I feel like ) really did everything they could behind the scenes to help this person. Like there were posters that wanted to doxx her to "get her help". Edit: Now its suicide prevention training for the mods.
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Sep 15, 2020 17:44
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Also there was a whole bunch of whining about how just because they toxxed and lost didn't mean they deserved to get banned. It happened with Clinton back in '16 and again with Bernie this year.
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Sep 15, 2020 17:46
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System Metternich posted:I’m trying to remember what Kyrie Eleison's deal was. I’m pretty sure they were tradcath fundamentalist, but wasn’t there something else going on too? Darkwater! Why do I remember this poo poo and nothing useful
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Sep 15, 2020 17:48
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MarcusSA posted:Also the mods / admins ( I feel like ) really did everything they could behind the scenes to help this person. Like there were posters that wanted to doxx her to "get her help". really everything is an excuse to complain about the mods, because a lot of folks have really internalized that bitter pointless complaining is empowering this is in a subforum which has a stickied "what to do if you feel suicidal" thread
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Sep 15, 2020 17:49
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I think a lot of people need better real life support systems and maybe not spend so much time online. And that's coming from someone that's been on this crazy website for almost two decades.
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Sep 15, 2020 18:00
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Id agree but that's pretty difficult to do right now with the whole, you know, everything right now.
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Sep 15, 2020 18:06
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luxury handset posted:yeah, the reason mass toxxes are discouraged is that it's a ton of work for a joke Also a bunch of folks who get banned from toxxes dont come back, which is not great for an internet forum with an already shaky userbase. The McCain toxx thread probably changed forum culture more than any other single thing. Next closest would probably be putting up the paywall over the Lets Play subforum in the middle of the DanganRonpa LP, lol.
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Sep 15, 2020 18:10
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Who What Now posted:Id agree but that's pretty difficult to do right now with the whole, you know, everything right now. I still see and talk to most of my friends even with everything that's going on. We even text/call every few weeks or so just to check on each other. But I've always had a lot of friends and an amazing family, so I've been incredibly lucky.
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Sep 15, 2020 18:12
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luxury handset posted:really everything is an excuse to complain about the mods I just work here. 
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Sep 15, 2020 18:16
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Moon Slayer posted:I just work here. Woah Jeffrey’s paying y’all now? Congrats
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Sep 15, 2020 18:17
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"work"
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Sep 15, 2020 18:21
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*taps side of forehead* Can't get a pay cut if you don't get paid
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Sep 15, 2020 18:22
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Solice Kirsk posted:I still see and talk to most of my friends even with everything that's going on. We even text/call every few weeks or so just to check on each other. But I've always had a lot of friends and an amazing family, so I've been incredibly lucky. i understand that people can be socially isolated and have no peer/support network irl, but just because an internet forum substitutes for that social network doesn't make it an adequate source of support for someone in crisis, and further it definitely does not follow that the people who volunteer their time to scrub bad posts from the site are then de facto social services for that community a lot of folks like to hold mods to an impossible standard and i think it's partly because of the outsized influence this web site holds on many people's psyches as well as people trying to put incredible responsibilities on the mods so they are then justified in complaining about how the mods can't meet these requirements also in political discourse circles online it is very fashionable to boldly declare what the ideal society looks like and then leave all the actual details of practicality and implementation up to other people. "i'll start the wiki" as an ideology basically
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Sep 15, 2020 18:23
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Oh, I totally agree. We're a web forum for a comedy site. The mods are unpaid volunteers that are mostly here to make sure it doesn't devolve into a racist cesspit. Expecting them to do anything to prevent suicide besides PMing someone or giving them a time out is ludicrous.
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Sep 15, 2020 18:26
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the last time i saw posts of people crying out "this is our home, please don't take away our home" was during the Troubles and it might as well be a sign that the forums' level of collective psychosis has hit fever pitch
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Sep 15, 2020 18:31
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Some greatest hits I’m not bothering to look up because I’m phoneposting : -The guy who made Tony Tango trying to stealthily advertise it in CD and getting ripped apart -the goon who accidentally got a job despite having no responsibilities and spending most of his day playing Snake on his phone. I think he received a shipment of globes at some point. I might still have this saved in a .txt somewhere. -“Buffy was a female dog and my depravity knew no bounds”
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Sep 15, 2020 18:55
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Coffee And Pie posted:Some greatest hits I’m not bothering to look up because I’m phoneposting : the fact that morally inept went on for a couple years after that thread was shocking
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Sep 15, 2020 19:06
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Oxxidation posted:the last time i saw posts of people crying out "this is our home, please don't take away our home" was during the Troubles and it might as well be a sign that the forums' level of collective psychosis has hit fever pitch I think it used to be that people had several "internet homes." For some people it was SA and 4chan, for others it was various forums for game fansites and such - I know in the early days of the internet I shuffled around the various comedy site communities (SA, Seanbaby, i-Mockery, etc) and within recent years as everything has become homogenized I've definitely felt a sort of "shrinkage" of my internet footprint, especially as Facebook and Twitter have become worse and worse with each passing day, and SA has been basically the one place online where there's still some standard of discourse even if it frequently sucks rear end. Every other site has trended so hard toward the ephemeral, immediate experience that sometimes disappears forever when you minimize an app for a second and reopen it, causing the page to refresh. SA and other message board style sites are about the only place left where the userbase collectively experiences something instead of having an individualized experience like Twitter or one that shifts around constantly like a Reddit post where things are being pushed up and down all the time. For better or worse, this post will stay stamped exactly where it is, save for a mod deletion or something. So I can see why people get so attached to this place and feel like it's the only place in which that "community" feeling persists for a lot of folks.
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Sep 15, 2020 19:08
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The moderation and administration of this website better be prepared for suicidal/homicidal/crazy type posts in the event of a trump victory. I recommend figuring out how you're going to handle it and announcing it ahead of time somewhere. Then you can just stick to your plan and it's not like personal attacks. Maybe even make a thread about it ahead of time taking suggestions so you can read some feedback first in CSpam and D&D.
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Sep 15, 2020 19:19
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The last time mods got together and made a plan it involved infiltrating a Nazi discord and we all know how that turned out.
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Sep 15, 2020 19:22
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Spinz posted:The moderation and administration of this website better be prepared for suicidal/homicidal/crazy type posts in the event of a trump victory. They just 30'd a guy who told everyone they need to start preparing to murder people if Trump wins. Meanwhile there's a raging argument in cspam that cuppy teas weird zionist conspiracy stuff wasn't actually anti-semetic because and I quote Tubgoat posted:Zionism is political pentyne has a new favorite as of 19:28 on Sep 15, 2020 |
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Sep 15, 2020 19:23
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I plan to consume edibles and pay even less attention to politics than I do now. Granted, that's my plan if Bidden wins as well.
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Sep 15, 2020 19:28
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Spinz posted:The moderation and administration of this website better be prepared for suicidal/homicidal/crazy type posts in the event of a trump victory. They need to be prepared for that regardless of how the election goes. There's absolutely still right wingers here, even if they stick to specific subforums or just mostly lurk, and theres definitely some folks who put all their "yay Bernie gonna win!" energy straight into "yay, the libs are gonna eat poo poo for spurning Bernie!" A sizable Biden win is gonna eat those folks up bad. I, a thoughtful and decorous gentlegoon, put all my "Bernie gonna win!" energy right where it belongs: straight into my crippling anxiety.
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Sep 15, 2020 19:47
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:They stopped enforcing posting toxxes this year. One More Fat Nerd posted:I thought it was closer to 300, and the time/effort that had to go into enforcing it was why election toxxes are banned now. luxury handset posted:yeah, the reason mass toxxes are discouraged is that it's a ton of work for a joke
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Sep 15, 2020 19:53
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The Kins posted:I could've swore I heard that the NoJoe stuff was going to be the final enforced mass-toxx, but things might have changed since I last paid attention. Lord knows talking about politics in real life is stressful enough without taking away verbal, facial and all the other social cues. Yeah but thats not an election result toxx its a "I will never vote for joe biden (or at least publicly admit i am doing so)".
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Sep 15, 2020 20:10
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Heath posted:I think it used to be that people had several "internet homes." For some people it was SA and 4chan, for others it was various forums for game fansites and such - I know in the early days of the internet I shuffled around the various comedy site communities (SA, Seanbaby, i-Mockery, etc) and within recent years as everything has become homogenized I've definitely felt a sort of "shrinkage" of my internet footprint, especially as Facebook and Twitter have become worse and worse with each passing day, and SA has been basically the one place online where there's still some standard of discourse even if it frequently sucks rear end. Every other site has trended so hard toward the ephemeral, immediate experience that sometimes disappears forever when you minimize an app for a second and reopen it, causing the page to refresh. SA and other message board style sites are about the only place left where the userbase collectively experiences something instead of having an individualized experience like Twitter or one that shifts around constantly like a Reddit post where things are being pushed up and down all the time. For better or worse, this post will stay stamped exactly where it is, save for a mod deletion or something. So I can see why people get so attached to this place and feel like it's the only place in which that "community" feeling persists for a lot of folks. The creators of the documentary Feels Good Man, about the cartoonist Matt Furie and his creation  , have a really interesting theory in that the shift from old 00s websites to modern social media websites was a shift from people acting in a way online that very inward focused to a way that was very outward focused. Nowadays places like 4chan are as much about projecting an idealized image of yourself as Instagram is, the only difference is that instead of presenting a flashy shallow aspirational version of yourself you present a depraved nihilistic monstrous version of yourself. Something Awful has definitely had a similar trend from the awkward and verbose sincerity of GBS 1.0 to the affected lower-case shitposting of GBS 2.0 but even if people are a little more defensive and self-conscious it's still miles better than everywhere else with similar population numbers and that's going to be what keeps people coming for as long as the site, or a reasonable facsimile of it, is still around.Spinz posted:The moderation and administration of this website better be prepared for suicidal/homicidal/crazy type posts in the event of a trump victory. I do think that with the median age of posters reaching middle age the upcoming years are gonna get real interesting as goons start to enter old age. I honestly have no idea what that's gonna look like.
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zakharov posted:Darkwater! lol i was trying to remember if it was him or olin
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