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Rimusutera posted:Marbozir, TheSaxyGamer & PotatoMcWhiskey all have a bunch of videos up. I like potatoes content but lord help me if his chat gets off topic they will talk about politics and while he himself is not horrible as far as ive seen it is always cringy
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His produced videos are way better but understandably rarer. Marbozir just does more normal less edited let's plays and he's really chill, though he doesn't go as insane with mechanics as potato does.
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Sep 14, 2020 20:03
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Rimusutera posted:If you want to have this discussion, what exactly do you think is so bad about Georgia, and what do other mediocre/middle of the road Civs have over it? I would think that the poster with the contrarian opinion should be defending it but hey if you can't be bothered to put effort into it, here's the short version: • civ ability is a "win more" ability but doesn't help you get to that point • leader abilities are very situational and aren't that strong • mediocre UU with a situational ability • mediocre UB
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Sep 14, 2020 22:15
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I actually think that golden ages are balanced enough that georgia's abilities arent "win more". More like "lose less". I think its actually a pretty decent ability since you are likely to get at least one golden age at some point and from that point on she has a good shot of always having them
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Sep 14, 2020 22:34
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John F Bennett posted:Same. Heh, I’ve taken to playing lately in a window on my work laptop and by the time we get to classical era I’m watching it load assets around the map and if i need to do anything more intensive than email it’s a quicksave and quit to desktop. I recently reinstalled 5 and it runs great though even at medium-high. It’s kinda a pleasure after 6 but i forgot how annoying it is to need to build things in every city to access wonders.
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The Mattybee posted:I would think that the poster with the contrarian opinion should be defending it but hey What are you on about? You could just answer the question instead of being a dick about this. The Mattybee posted:• civ ability is a "win more" ability but doesn't help you get to that point The leader and civ abilities have good and mediocre parts; extra wall production is actually pretty decent and gets undersold a lot, walls have been buffed at least once in and of themselves, but the extra envoys is pretty big and makes Georgia a solid diplomatic civ as well as flexibility based on CS suzerainty, which can be incredibly impactful. A common complaint still with Georgia is they have trouble founding a religion but imho this is kind of overstated even on Deity and ignores that their abilities work with adopted religions. You can get a lot of leverage out of extra envoys, and is one of the things that can help you catch up to the AI, who tend to otherwise be ahead of you on envoys. Otherwise I agree with this: mandatory lesbian posted:I actually think that golden ages are balanced enough that georgia's abilities arent "win more". More like "lose less". I think its actually a pretty decent ability since you are likely to get at least one golden age at some point and from that point on she has a good shot of always having them Its way less of a winmore ability than you're crediting it as and helps you keep an edge over situations you'd otherwise struggle / fall behind in. My position is they're kinda meh, middle tier, not the literal worst Civ in the game like you're arguing and you actually have an onus to defend your claims too you know? Rimusutera fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Sep 15, 2020 |
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Sep 15, 2020 00:00
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I've never played as Georgia but I wonder if the walls thing could help survive an AI rush, and paradoxically make them better on Deity than on lower difficulties.
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Sep 15, 2020 00:56
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Chamale posted:I've never played as Georgia but I wonder if the walls thing could help survive an AI rush, and paradoxically make them better on Deity than on lower difficulties. Ancient Walls don't help with really early AI rushes since those tend to hit before you have the tech unlocked, but over all walls of all tiers are pretty good for long term defense. To the point I regularly plug in Limes to get them up and running. the +2 Science card and the bonus tourism also help.
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Sep 15, 2020 00:59
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*crashes into thread* YEAHHHHHHH
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Sep 15, 2020 02:08
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Byzantine posted:*crashes into thread* Someone's happy for Rome 2: Grecobogaloo.
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Sep 15, 2020 02:10
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It's probably going to be either Justinian or Theodora as the Byzantine leader, but I'm hoping for an Alexios. Gaul basically has to be Vercingetorix, right?
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Sep 15, 2020 02:24
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Eh, being focused on war I can easily see Heraclius. Though I will second that personally I wish it was Irene of Athens.
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Sep 15, 2020 02:27
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I would like to see one of the later emperors rather than Justinian or Theodora again, but that does seem to be Civ6's philosophy for leader selection.
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Sep 15, 2020 02:32
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Justinian saw the largest expansion of the empire, so it feels appropriate and familiar to go with him if war is their focus. Previous joke aside, modern historiography is swinging back onto recognizing the "Byzantine" Empire actually saw themselves as Romans, so I'm actually annoyed they're not an alt Rome leader set up.
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Sep 15, 2020 02:37
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If you want to make it during Justinian's reign just do Belisarius then. I think Heraclius would work fine since he oversaw the most dramatic war in Roman history, what with Rome nearly being wiped out by the Sassanids to him leading the last Roman army into the heart of Persia. And to cap it off he lived long enough to see the Arab invasion.
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Sep 15, 2020 02:41
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Belisarius feels like he suffers from a case of not actually being the Emperor though. Heraclius would be pretty sick though, based on what I know about him/ what you mention.
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Sep 15, 2020 02:49
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Gaul's leader
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Sep 15, 2020 03:06
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This but Vitalstatistix
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Sep 15, 2020 05:33
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Rimusutera posted:Belisarius feels like he suffers from a case of not actually being the Emperor though. Heraclius would be pretty sick though, based on what I know about him/ what you mention. He deserves to be a great general at least
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Sep 15, 2020 06:02
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Apologies if this has been answered, but can multiple game modes be enabled at once? Can I have vampires and devil worshippers, extreme climate change and post apocalyptic poo poo and now whatever the new age mechanics are, all at once?
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Sep 15, 2020 10:24
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chaosapiant posted:Apologies if this has been answered, but can multiple game modes be enabled at once? Can I have vampires and devil worshippers, extreme climate change and post apocalyptic poo poo and now whatever the new age mechanics are, all at once? Yep. I'm looking forward to the new Civs if the more recent ones are any indication then they're going to be super fun to play.
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Sep 15, 2020 10:34
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Rimusutera posted:Belisarius feels like he suffers from a case of not actually being the Emperor though. Heraclius would be pretty sick though, based on what I know about him/ what you mention. Heraclius would be alright, but my vote is always for peasant Emperors which means that since Justinian has been done to death it's time for Basil I to get some recognition.
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Sep 15, 2020 23:01
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Can't wait to play as Gaul and march on to Rome, that'll show them. And also vice versa.
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Sep 16, 2020 07:30
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Has any Civ game ever used ancient Israel as a civ? Seems easy, the leader is David, Wonder is a Grand Temple, special units are Maccabi’s etc. I’m getting an urge to play an Earth map and exactly recreate historical issues. I’m pretty sure Darius of Persia is in 5 and Rome and Egypt are always there so I’d just need some Mesopotamia and so on to fill this out. Really, there should be a “create a civ” option where you can do this with reskinning existing units and adjusting some attributes.
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Sep 16, 2020 08:29
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Civ6 has Persia, Rome, Egypt and Sumeria. Israel isn't a full civ but it's represented by Jerusalem as a city state.
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Sep 16, 2020 09:35
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Kassad posted:Civ6 has Persia, Rome, Egypt and Sumeria. Israel isn't a full civ but it's represented by Jerusalem as a city state. Yeah that’s what prompted the q, I’ve only seen Jerusalem as a city-state. Forgot about Sumeria so I guess I can boot up 6 and get some proper med-warfare going. 
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Sep 16, 2020 09:39
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These last posts are exactly the reason why I exclusively play on Earth maps with true start locations. I have 1000+ hours according to Steam and I think I have played a game on a non-Earth map maybe 2-3 times. I've been doing this since Civ1. Doesn't that get boring? No, it does not.
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Sep 16, 2020 11:06
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jojoinnit posted:Yeah that’s what prompted the q, I’ve only seen Jerusalem as a city-state. Forgot about Sumeria so I guess I can boot up 6 and get some proper med-warfare going. There are probably mods adding Israel as a civ.
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Sep 16, 2020 11:22
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John F Bennett posted:These last posts are exactly the reason why I exclusively play on Earth maps with true start locations. I have 1000+ hours according to Steam and I think I have played a game on a non-Earth map maybe 2-3 times. I've been doing this since Civ1. I haven't played on an Earth map since Civ II.
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Sep 16, 2020 11:45
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John F Bennett posted:These last posts are exactly the reason why I exclusively play on Earth maps with true start locations. I have 1000+ hours according to Steam and I think I have played a game on a non-Earth map maybe 2-3 times. I've been doing this since Civ1. I don't love automatically knowing where everything is. I started a game on the earth map (not true start obvs) as Trajan the other day and quickly realized I was in South Africa. Pushed north as fast as I could to find Shaka just north of me in sub-Saharan Africa. Lost enthusiasm for that playthrough right away because I knew I was going to have to try and slog through a war in jungle with him to get anywhere, just for the privilege of breaking out into a ton of desert.
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jojoinnit posted:Has any Civ game ever used ancient Israel as a civ? Seems easy, the leader is David, Wonder is a Grand Temple, special units are Maccabi’s etc. I’m getting an urge to play an Earth map and exactly recreate historical issues. I’m pretty sure Darius of Persia is in 5 and Rome and Egypt are always there so I’d just need some Mesopotamia and so on to fill this out. My groupchat has been mulling over the stats of a Mormon civ centered around being denounced and generating gold from cities your religion has a hold in E: and of course espionage
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Chad Sexington posted:I don't love automatically knowing where everything is. I started a game on the earth map (not true start obvs) as Trajan the other day and quickly realized I was in South Africa. Pushed north as fast as I could to find Shaka just north of me in sub-Saharan Africa. I usually roleplay pretty hard on these Earth maps. I deliberately don't expand or conquer when it doesn't fit my head narrative on a playthrough and I pretend there's this separate game of diplomacy going on. Victory conditions are always turned off, of course. I guess it's a bit weird but it's fun to me.
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Sep 16, 2020 14:26
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Civ VI and Civ in general is one of the best games out there for playing the way YOU want to play. Sometimes I just want a sandbox so I do small continents and build my little empire before meeting other people and sometimes I want a mess so I add 50% more civs on Pangea. Two completely different games. Tear down all the forests to build a war machine or save them for national parks. Conquer or go full spy craft and steal someone’s cultural win out from under them. Sometimes you just want to start as Australia in actual austrlia and build the worlds biggest outback station! Other times you want to true start as France on Earth on diety and try to survive. Play how you want!
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Sep 16, 2020 15:18
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Tom Tucker posted:Sometimes you just want to start as Australia in actual austrlia and build the worlds biggest outback station! Other times you want to true start as France on Earth on diety and try to survive. Hell yeah! Australia on an Earth map is actually a fun way to play if you want a playthrough where you just focus on some empire building. You have a fairly big piece of land with natural borders and nobody will be bothering you for a long time. And when you're ready you invade America.
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:My groupchat has been mulling over the stats of a Mormon civ centered around being denounced and generating gold from cities your religion has a hold in I'd like to see a Lakota civ that can win the game without being expansionist and constantly growing. The leader ability called Ghost Dance gives an alternate win condition when the game enters the Modern era for keeping amenities high and not getting conquered, or something like that.
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Sep 16, 2020 15:58
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I've mentioned this before but I think that the flexibility holds true even on Deity is a big selling point for me about how good VI is at its core currently. Pretty much everything mentioned like deciding to chop the poo poo out of everything or save for NatParks are real decisions to make based on what your strategy actually is. There's rarely anything that holds true 100% of the time for me.
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Chad Sexington posted:I don't love automatically knowing where everything is. I started a game on the earth map (not true start obvs) as Trajan the other day and quickly realized I was in South Africa. Pushed north as fast as I could to find Shaka just north of me in sub-Saharan Africa. This is my feeling as well. I love the exploration that comes with the early game. Once you've discovered most of the world or at least your nearby region a lot of the enjoyment of the game for me is a little lost. It's also one of the things that's hardest to make work in Civ board games. That said it's kind of fun to cheese the game with Kupe by doing true start, setting all the enemy civs to European/Asian/African ones, then sailing East and having the Americas all to yourself to garden in.
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Sep 16, 2020 16:49
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I must be weird for playing only one map mode: Shuffle. With a self-imposed rule that I cannot move the settler unless it physically cannot settle on the location it was spawned into.
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whats the deal with making religion units? I have a city with my religion as a majority, that city has a holy district with a shrine AND temple. On the map I have 1 apostle left with 1 spread left. I can't buy OR build any religious unit at my city with a majority of that religion and all the district stuff? What gives? please help my religion is dying 
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