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Shitpost all you like BUT DON'T GET BETWEEN ME AND THE BLOOD WINE
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Martytoof posted:Shitpost all you like and SING IT 
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Sep 16, 2020 16:31
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Martytoof posted:Shitpost all you like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FjzFHyjhVI
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Sep 16, 2020 16:58
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Sep 16, 2020 17:00
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Yeah that plot’s not happening any time soon.
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Sep 16, 2020 17:17
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Maybe I'm alone in this but I couldn't give less of a poo poo about ~some random person's~ take on Star Trek anymore. I don't need a big twist on the formula. I don't need someone to shake poo poo up. I just need someone who loving gets it and isn't a sexual predator or mealy-mouthed neoliberal or closet Nazi.
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Sep 16, 2020 17:24
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I can’t wait until the end of 2020 when we find out this was a Star Trek movie all along.
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Sep 16, 2020 17:25
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Phylodox posted:I can’t wait until the end of 2020 when we find out this was a Star Trek movie all along. 
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Sep 16, 2020 17:32
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nine-gear crow posted:The Omega Particle was simultaneously one of the stupidest AND scariest things Voyager ever did. I wish we had maybe one more series set in the 24th century before the franchise hit the iceburg with Nemesis and Enterprise because it kind of needed maybe one more episode or so to really explore the implications of what happens you make an Omega and it goes absolutely horrifyingly wrong. Seriously. Like, the Borg invest all of their resources and create only a single molecule of the stuff but this rando Delta Quadrant prewarp civilization creates hundreds "to save their society"! Like perhaps don't plow everything into making holocaust atoms? IDK. Still a pretty great episode. Seeing Harry Kim get demoted to 2 of 10 made me lol
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Sep 16, 2020 17:38
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No, not that Star Trek.
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Sep 16, 2020 17:42
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Bilirubin posted:Seriously. Like, the Borg invest all of their resources and create only a single molecule of the stuff but this rando Delta Quadrant prewarp civilization creates hundreds "to save their society"! Wasn't there some ingredient the Borg didn't have any more of that the randos had stumbled on?
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Sep 16, 2020 17:45
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Drone posted:Maybe I'm alone in this but I couldn't give less of a poo poo about ~some random person's~ take on Star Trek anymore. I love Noah Hawley but yeah I'll take a hard pass on another galaxy-spanning deadly threat
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Sep 16, 2020 17:51
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Drone posted:I just need someone who loving gets it and isn't a sexual predator or mealy-mouthed neoliberal or closet Nazi. I have some bad news about the entertainment industry, buddy. At best you get to pick two of these. e: at least in the production sectors
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Sep 16, 2020 17:56
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Drone posted:Maybe I'm alone in this but I couldn't give less of a poo poo about ~some random person's~ take on Star Trek anymore. Yeah I don't think you're alone. I just want an episodic monster of the week with maybe some overarching plot to tie seasons together. I want it bright, optimistic, or if not optimistic then at least pragmatic with optimistic overtones, and most of all I don't want END OF LIFE AS YOU KNOW IT stakes. I mean basically just give me a mashup of TNG and DS9.. And please, no more synths, or shape shifting aliens posing as humans. We did that. It was fun and now it's done.
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Sep 16, 2020 18:07
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Also characters that matter and grow but who can do so without having seasonwide ~prestige TV~ arcs that in the end everyone hates because nobody can resist the urge to turn every serialized TV series into the final season of Game of Thrones.
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Sep 16, 2020 18:09
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Star Trek doesn't need to be any season of Game of Thrones
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Sep 16, 2020 18:16
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The Bloop posted:Star Trek doesn't need to be any season of Game of Thrones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvAHaz_0gP0
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Sep 16, 2020 18:18
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The Bloop posted:Star Trek doesn't need to be any season of Game of Thrones Though I will freely admit, Janeway returning to Earth only to give the orders to destroy it and its ungrateful populace makes complete sense in-canon.
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Sep 16, 2020 18:21
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Phylodox posted:No, not that Star Trek. 2020 has truly been a Star Trek Voyager of a year
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Sep 16, 2020 18:33
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MikeJF posted:Wasn't there some ingredient the Borg didn't have any more of that the randos had stumbled on? IDR them mentioning it in any sort of detail like that
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Sep 16, 2020 18:34
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Drone posted:Also characters that matter and grow but who can do so without having seasonwide ~prestige TV~ arcs that in the end everyone hates because nobody can resist the urge to turn every serialized TV series into the final season of Game of Thrones. explorers would have been a better season long arc for sisko than a single episode.
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Sep 16, 2020 18:37
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Not sure if I should ask this here or in the other Star Trek thread but if I were to watch all the Trek series, which would be a good place to start? Should I watch them based off of airdate, therefore TOS -> TNG -> DS9 -> VOY -> ENT -> DIS? Or should I go chronologically ENT -> DIS -> TOS, etc? I'm not unfamiliar with the universe, I've seen all of the movies (though not the latest one, Beyond?) and I have watched through all of TNG, a few episodes of TOS, and the first season of DS9, but then school caused me to fall off the wagon, and this was right when Discovery first aired too. Since I'm enjoying Lower Decks waaaaaay more than I enjoyed Picard I'm curious what people's thoughts are on the best approach for watching the other shows
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Sep 16, 2020 18:38
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Aces High posted:Not sure if I should ask this here or in the other Star Trek thread but if I were to watch all the Trek series, which would be a good place to start? I'd just finish DS9 at this point.
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Sep 16, 2020 18:38
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Tonally TOS is very different from the rest of the series. I'd start with TNG, and if you like the concepts enough, give TOS a shot, but be aware that it is extremely 60's as a whole.
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Sep 16, 2020 18:39
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multijoe posted:2020 has truly been a Star Trek Voyager of a year Are you kidding? I would kill for 2020 to be anodyne, apolitical, more-of-the-same-but-boring, the-colour-beige-personified pablum.
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Sep 16, 2020 18:42
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Phylodox posted:Are you kidding? I would kill for 2020 to be anodyne, apolitical, more-of-the-same-but-boring, the-colour-beige-personified pablum. it's one of the episodes where Janeway really goes off on one and unleashes an ancient evil across the galaxy because someone told her not to
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Sep 16, 2020 18:48
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Tonally TOS is very different from the rest of the series. I'd start with TNG, and if you like the concepts enough, give TOS a shot, but be aware that it is extremely 60's as a whole. I could never get into TOS given TNG was my first Trek. To this day I'm pretty sure I've only watched maybe six or seven full episodes all the way through.
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Sep 16, 2020 18:52
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Martytoof posted:I could never get into TOS given TNG was my first Trek. To this day I'm pretty sure I've only watched maybe six or seven full episodes all the way through. I made my partner watch, in order, Spock's Brain and City on the Edge of Forever. She went from "wtf this is garbage" to "oh that was really neat!" Amok Time is awaiting on the PVR. (for background: she is a die hard DS9 fan and really likes Picard and LD, was so so on Voyager but loves Janeway. She never got into TNG and has not seen most of TOS)
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Sep 16, 2020 18:56
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Fully agree I'm probably missing some good Trek, but my mind just can't see beyond the 60s production values.
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Sep 16, 2020 18:59
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Martytoof posted:Fully agree I'm probably missing some good Trek, but my mind just can't see beyond the 60s production values. Agreed fully. It's not bad but I definitely need to be in an "old-school TV" mood to enjoy it. Honestly I think my first exposure to TOS was the Tribbles DS9 episode.
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Sep 16, 2020 19:01
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I feel like it's easy to tell when someone is old enough to have grown up watching Nick at Nite when it comes to things like "tolerating 60s production values".
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Sep 16, 2020 19:02
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Drone posted:I feel like it's easy to tell when someone is old enough to have grown up watching Nick at Nite when it comes to things like "tolerating 60s production values". I dunno, I definitely grew up loving the stuff they showed, but for some reason TOS just doesn't really do it for me. I stayed up all summers watching I Love Lucy, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, etc. in the early 90's when I was wee.
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Sep 16, 2020 19:04
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It’s because of the tonal dissonance. Watching sit-coms with lurid colours and cheap sets is fine, because it just adds to the silly atmosphere. But Star Trek is ostensibly a drama, so your ability to process the serious plot lines is hijacked by the overtly silly aesthetic. It didn’t matter back in the day, of course, because a) the aesthetic was more mainstream then and b) you were watching it on a five inch screen that made literally everything look like Candyland vomited all over it.
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Sep 16, 2020 19:13
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Watch TOS
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Sep 16, 2020 20:00
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Drone posted:I feel like it's easy to tell when someone is old enough to have grown up watching Nick at Nite when it comes to things like "tolerating 60s production values". um, right. Totally Nick at Night, not syndication in the 70s. Green slime hahaha amirite?
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Sep 16, 2020 20:19
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Bilirubin posted:um, right. Totally Nick at Night, not syndication in the 70s. 
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Sep 16, 2020 20:49
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYFyOSFOw_o i vividly remember seeing this commercial back in the 80s
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Sep 16, 2020 20:56
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Why do Star Trek ads always show a compilation of phaser shooting? The ads are always way more violent than the actual show. Do the marketeers think that's what people are looking for in Trek?
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Sep 16, 2020 21:08
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Trailers aren't for people that already want to watch the show
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