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Cao Ni Ma posted:Do we know if firewalls added fire damage scales with gems or will it be something I just put without a link for it and only really scale it if Im going burning damage? We'll know for sure later today but from the preview it seemed like the flat damage just scales with levels but the burning effect might be able to be scaled with supports. Could be pretty huge for ignite builds
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Sep 16, 2020 21:18
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Vasudus posted:CA/TR pathfinder. I'm probably gonna do this unless I can miracle out some good numbers on this dumb spellslinger idea. also not as a starter but I definitely want to do something with Discharge this league, numbers on it are silly
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Sep 16, 2020 21:30
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I’ve never done CA TR past level 28 so yeah I think I’m going to do it.
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Sep 16, 2020 21:31
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This new skeleton unique is wild. Guardian Dom blow and skeletons?
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Sep 16, 2020 21:53
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https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1306333578859442181
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Sep 16, 2020 21:53
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Holy poo poo wtf
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Sep 16, 2020 21:56
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wtf is that, might be the most broken item in the game
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Sep 16, 2020 21:57
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Did some testing and Chaosslinger is still perfectly fine to get you through the campaign, though you might wanna wait till you get a 4L for Soulrend before switching
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Sep 16, 2020 21:58
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I’m guessing it’s a given that this league, or at least its new stuff, are going core?
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Sep 16, 2020 22:01
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lamentable dustman posted:wtf is that, might be the most broken item in the game I mean, admittedly, there are some caveats there. You can already get Unholy Might and Withered on skelebois, via the passive tree + cluster jewels. Making them do triple damage is nuts but also it means you have to scale their physical damage without Brutality so they can benefit from the extra Chaos, which complicates their damage output. It also requires the player to hit an enemy with a weapon attack which is inconvenient for a summoner. It doesn’t require the player to do meaningful damage with that attack tho. Also it has no other minion damage modifiers and precludes you from using a trigger weapon unless you use a scepter in the off hand.
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Sep 16, 2020 22:02
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I guess there is the opportunity cost of not using one of the traditional summon or weapons
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Sep 16, 2020 22:03
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So this is what it takes to tempt the lazy summoner folks into melee range?
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Sep 16, 2020 22:03
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CommunityEdition posted:I’m guessing it’s a given that this league, or at least its new stuff, are going core? "This league" = Heist or Harvest? Harvest is "none of it for now, will figure out what to bring back in the near future".
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Sep 16, 2020 22:03
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This is an insanely cool design. Love how you wield the foreground sword and the skeletons have the background one
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Sep 16, 2020 22:04
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Lightning Knight posted:Holy poo poo wtf Literally my exact reaction to this irl haha
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Sep 16, 2020 22:04
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Skelemancer cyclone hex-on-hit? e: how stoned is this skeleton, btw? "have u ever really looked at your shield???" ;-; 
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Sep 16, 2020 22:04
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Lightning Knight posted:It also requires the player to hit an enemy with a weapon attack which is inconvenient for a summoner. It doesn’t require the player to do meaningful damage with that attack tho. Whirling Blades
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Sep 16, 2020 22:05
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Necro skellis with cyclone with infused channeling
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Sep 16, 2020 22:05
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Wuxi posted:Did some testing and Chaosslinger is still perfectly fine to get you through the campaign, though you might wanna wait till you get a 4L for Soulrend before switching With just soulrend and ED, or did you find a way to squeeze in contagion?
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Sep 16, 2020 22:05
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MMF Freeway posted:This is an insanely cool design. Love how you wield the foreground sword and the skeletons have the background one Agreed. In the realm of 'get me closer so I can hit it with my sword' summoner design it competes with The Scourge which also has a lot of upsides. The visual effect on this is absolutely nuts though.
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Sep 16, 2020 22:05
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Triple damage sounds absolutely nuts. I think you can just play a generic summoner for 95% of the map and just hit vigilant strike on bosses. They should easily melt within those 4 seconds.
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Sep 16, 2020 22:06
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RossCo posted:A couple of pages ago someone casually mentioned that Residence was once on the best maps for getting six links. Along with what MMF Freeway said, this is usually my go to farming way to get a 6link. Based on purely anecdotal evidence, I averaged a card every 4 residence maps or so. Obviously with bad streaks and then sometimes 2-3 in one map.
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Sep 16, 2020 22:07
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please knock Mom! posted:With just soulrend and ED, or did you find a way to squeeze in contagion? Soulrend and ED. Contagion isn't needed, Soulrend already has insane clear
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Sep 16, 2020 22:07
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that's it league starting skels. I *will* make this work
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Sep 16, 2020 22:08
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Wuxi posted:Whirling Blades True, but can’t jump gaps. Summoners are already socket-starved. I think it’s a really good weapon but it’s also an inconvenient weapon due to requiring maintenance by the player via hitting with it. If ranged attacks like Spectral Throw or whatever work that could solve that problem. Still no trigger weapon/shield tho. Higher opportunity cost than it seems on first glance. Very cool weapon tho.
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Sep 16, 2020 22:08
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Grimoire posted:that's it league starting skels. I *will* make this work
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Sep 16, 2020 22:09
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Dunkelbrau posted:This got lost, but I was wondering the same thing. Anyone have a decent guide they like for lacerate, detailed enough for a very dumb person like me to understand? I've been reading over https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2247655 for the bow version. I can show you what a hardcore viable bleed lacerate gladiator should look like in pob, but there's no guide since it's all just homebrew stuff that I run on instinct after the better part of a decade playing this dumb game. https://pastebin.com/dkjHkC6s is the end state. This isn't gonna be enough detail if you're looking for the long version, but some notes on getting there: -path toward resolute technique, picking up all bleed nodes and as much life as you need to feel comfortable. there's no perfect/specific order here, you just want to hit RT before your accuracy starts to really suck. -fill out a balance of block, life, and axe damage passives over time. pretty flexible, just shore up whatever feels most lacking -don't take crimson dance until you have a 5l (for multistrike), a decent axe, and gratuitous violence. -80s+, start dumping excess axe and/or life passives in favor of cluster jewels as you can acquire them -gems: chance to bleed support until you're at 100% without it. priority as you get more links is brutality>melee phys>deadly ailments>multistrike>fortify. Swap fortify for deadly ailments in hc. -ascendancy: gratuitous violence then versatile combatant. even in hc it's worth getting the massive damage and clear speed boost first -jewels: life and bleed duration are by far the most important mods, past that just get stats, resists, damage over time, whatever. -cluster jewels: pob example has a nearly perfect mix. any combination of the mods shown will do fine -axe: the only strictly necessary gear. run a jack or some random pdps rare until you get an ilvl 83 elder axe. crafting basically revolves around throwing corroded fossils, regals, annulments at the base until you get the bleed mod and two open prefixes, then multimod. cull suffix is gravy but will take a lot more investment to hit. -gear: whatever you can wear that'll give you life, resists, armor. the pob example is way beyond what you need to succeed, but it's a good final setup to aim for
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Sep 16, 2020 22:10
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Lightning Knight posted:True, but can’t jump gaps. Summoners are already socket-starved. You need Fortify from somewhere and Shield Charge or Vigilant Strike don't bridge gaps either.
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Sep 16, 2020 22:10
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Aren’t the new steel skills ranged melee
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Sep 16, 2020 22:11
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whypick1 posted:"This league" = Heist or Harvest? Harvest is "none of it for now, will figure out what to bring back in the near future". The coming league. If anything I’m wondering if a league drop reshuffling is coming in the near future, because I can’t see how heist being the only source for alt quality gems AND alternate uniques AND a new batch of item bases AND whatever else they’ve got in enchants can hold up once heists are no longer the season focus. Like how cluster jewels ended up with max sockets once Delirium ended, but without such a straightforward fix.
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Sep 16, 2020 22:13
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Wuxi posted:You need Fortify from somewhere and Shield Charge or Vigilant Strike don't bridge gaps either. I’d probably use Vigilant Strike + Flame Dash tbh.
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Sep 16, 2020 22:13
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Wuxi posted:Soulrend and ED. Contagion isn't needed, Soulrend already has insane clear Hmm good to know, might do this. Then again, might do fireball spellslinger, might do mines, might do ball lightning scion, might do...
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Sep 16, 2020 22:14
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Awesome! posted:making skeletons work as a league starter is...not difficult not just skeletons, chaos conversion skeletons with fundamentally different scaling (as noted earlier, levels = more base damage usually)
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Sep 16, 2020 22:14
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Lightning Knight posted:I mean, admittedly, there are some caveats there. You can already get Unholy Might and Withered on skelebois, via the passive tree + cluster jewels. Making them do triple damage is nuts but also it means you have to scale their physical damage without Brutality so they can benefit from the extra Chaos, which complicates their damage output. Does that weapon just give that that much more DPS on top of what they already have? Or is it replacing some hidden "default weapon" like the sword they're shown holding? Also to scale them you can just give them full Chaos triad grip and then the withered is a 90% more multiplier once it ramps up on a boss. Wuxi posted:Whirling Blades Hell even Spectral Throw or Lightning Strike counts if you don't wanna get near anything.
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Sep 16, 2020 22:14
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Lightning Knight posted:I mean, admittedly, there are some caveats there. You can already get Unholy Might and Withered on skelebois, via the passive tree + cluster jewels. Making them do triple damage is nuts but also it means you have to scale their physical damage without Brutality so they can benefit from the extra Chaos, which complicates their damage output. After doing some math it isn't really that good. I didn't think about the skellies doing less base damage now. A SW does around 1000dps but this sword only does 250dps. With the buffs not including wither you are only doing like 990dps. Kind of neat still.
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Sep 16, 2020 22:15
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Grimoire posted:not just skeletons, chaos conversion skeletons with fundamentally different scaling (as noted earlier, levels = more base damage usually) skeletons work on a 3 link. i dont think it really matters what else you add on top
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Sep 16, 2020 22:15
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Zero VGS posted:Does that weapon just give that that much more DPS on top of what they already have? Or is it replacing some hidden "default weapon" like the sword they're shown holding? I don’t know! That’s a great question. Also full white socket Triad Grips are not cheap for most players and also Triad Grips are poo poo gloves outside of the conversion effect. lamentable dustman posted:After doing some math it isn't really that good. I didn't think about the skellies doing less base damage now. A SW does around 1000dps but this sword only does 250dps. With the buffs not including wither you are only doing like 990dps. rip
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Sep 16, 2020 22:18
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lamentable dustman posted:After doing some math it isn't really that good. I didn't think about the skellies doing less base damage now. A SW does around 1000dps but this sword only does 250dps. With the buffs not including wither you are only doing like 990dps. You can do stuff like corrupt resolute technique on it too. Not sure how much accuracy skeles need but it's an option
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Sep 16, 2020 22:19
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iirc minions got a bunch of base accuracy added awhile ago so they cap with like 1 accuracy node
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Sep 16, 2020 22:22
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I am pretty sure the sword replaces the default skeletons attack, which means they no longer scale with level, however when adding raw damage to them they not only gain the triple damage scaling but the sword should give them a much higher attack speed, as much as double. That means raw damage actually has 6x the value when added to this as it does regular SW. Need to borrow Zero's Aura bot with 6 or 9 vengeful commanders and both anger and wrath.
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Sep 16, 2020 22:23
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