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after 13(x), 14 1.0 and 15, I would be shocked if this game isn't stellar, with the team behind the rebirth of 2.0 and Square having eaten it in the face for missteps over the last decade+ (plus I actually like 15, but that's neither here nor there) And if you haven't played 7R or Heavensward+ in 14... 16 gon be gud.
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Bleck posted:the party of the previous final fantasy game was four white dudes in nearly identical black outfits
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Harrow posted:That's sort of what makes me think there's at least a small possibility there won't be a party this time, though. It's very true that the mainline games differ pretty widely from one another--what if this is the one where they just go for a solo playable character? Nah, like I said I'm pretty convinced that we didn't see anything past the first 30 minutes of the game.
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Honestly I was kinda hoping they'd bite the bullet and have a female lead again, personally. 
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Gonna post again just to emphasize how incredibly loving good Heavensward and Shadowbringers are, god drat So good
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victrix posted:Gonna post again just to emphasize how incredibly loving good Heavensward and Shadowbringers are, god drat  e: I was talking to a friend yesterday who's a huge FF fan but hates MMOs and he was like "well is there any cool throwback stuff to older FF games" and I was like "uhhhhhh" Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Sep 17, 2020 |
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Sep 17, 2020 00:07
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I thought the trailer was cool as gently caress. If anything, I’ve felt like FF needed some of its worst excesses trimmed back. Not a drat single FF has interested me since IX. And it’s been a big old massive pile of mismanagement and overblown BS for years now. Hard agree with everyone that said this looks like the plot setup portion of the game. I’m sure I’m in the minority here, but the severe lack of extreme anime feeling made me really happy about this. A homogenous party would suck though. Also am I the only one that thinks it’s funny that this is literally the inverse of the Diablo III argument from 2012?
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Nah, like I said I'm pretty convinced that we didn't see anything past the first 30 minutes of the game. Even if that's true, you can still say "nothing in this trailer appealed to me" and that's a valid complaint. Chiming in with "well actually this trailer is probably entirely unrepresentative of the final product, which will be completely different and way cooler" is a pretty weird thing to do.
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I dropped off final fantasy after 10 but started playing FFXIV last year and it's been wonderful. I also picked up FF7R and it's the first modern sp final fantasy game that's clicked for me, the combat was very satisfying, especially on hard. I was skeptical after trying FFXV and being disappointed with combat that I found floaty and unengaging. This trailer has me stoked, I find myself getting excited and I haven't been excited for a final fantasy before its release since 9  can't wait!
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Sep 17, 2020 00:18
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Clarste posted:Even if that's true, you can still say "nothing in this trailer appealed to me" and that's a valid complaint. Chiming in with "well actually this trailer is probably entirely unrepresentative of the final product, which will be completely different and way cooler" is a pretty weird thing to do. thank you!
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It cannot be overstated how much of a normalizing influence Yoshida seems to be on gender representation in FFXIV— far more progressive from the typical conservative gender representation of typical Japanese game companies. I’m sure he burns like 3000 letters a day from management/artists/fans hoping to sexualize Y’shtola more because she’s the new “face” of FFXIV in the greater FF universe, or make Alisaie have a boyfriend or something. I am very excited to see women be realistic people in this video game. If that woman in the trailer were in FFXV her tits would be out and shed be sucking on a lollipop or something.
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Apparently, Yoshida said back in 2019 that:quote:"I’d like to see a Final Fantasy that is straightforward fantasy, one that doesn’t have much machinery, and with no mecha in it." That's...not promising.
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Sep 17, 2020 00:26
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looking forward to three years of this
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Help Im Alive posted:looking forward to three years of this  came to this thread to get hyped but if it's just gonna be this then I'll be unstarring that little button
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Sep 17, 2020 00:28
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I'll shut up. sorry.
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Honestly the last time I’ve spent a significant amount of time arguing about an upcoming FF title was in 2009 so it’s long overdue. E: you’re cool Jetrauben, you make good points
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Jetrauben posted:I'll shut up. fwiw you've basically put all my worries and complaints about the trailer into words and it's refreshing not to feel alone in my opinions here 
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Sep 17, 2020 00:31
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Everyone will buy it and play it and rejoice in twelve years when it’s released. This is a fact.
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Sep 17, 2020 00:31
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Fwiw I completely agree that the game needs proper female representation. That was the main worry I took from the trailer. I don't think we saw any party members other than the protagonist though? Assuming there even are other party members...
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Jetrauben posted:Apparently, Yoshida said back in 2019 that: Why not? All that says is that he wants to return to the fantasy aesthetics that established the series, and he’s not even the director. I’ve been really busy these past few months and only just finished up Heavensward the other day, but if the dudes behind that expansion are helming this I feel like the game is in good hands.
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stev posted:Fwiw I completely agree that the game needs proper female representation. That was the main worry I took from the trailer. There's one shot in the trailer that soooort of looks like you're fighting alongside another dude (lol), but nothing definitive. I think it could go either way at this point.
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Sep 17, 2020 00:38
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stev posted:Fwiw I completely agree that the game needs proper female representation. That was the main worry I took from the trailer. These two things reflect my only concerns.
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Mywhatacleanturtle posted:Why not? All that says is that he wants to return to the fantasy aesthetics that established the series, and he’s not even the director. Look I absolutely want to be proven wrong, so we'll see.
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Clarste posted:Even if that's true, you can still say "nothing in this trailer appealed to me" and that's a valid complaint. Chiming in with "well actually this trailer is probably entirely unrepresentative of the final product, which will be completely different and way cooler" is a pretty weird thing to do. Ok, that's not what I said though. I was responding to "I hope it's not a 1-character game" with "I believe the trailer shows the start of the game, which is why I'm not too worried." New PCs generally get introduced gradually in party RPGs. I'm actually looking back at my few posts so far and I'm pretty sure I haven't directly disagreed with someone's opinion yet, so I'm not sure why you're quoting me about this at all. e: jetrauben if I got in your face that was not my intention but I don't think I did so  I actually agree with you, I also hope that it is not single-character, and I also hope that it does not entirely take place in drab medieval towns; my personal opinion is that neither of those things will be the case! Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Sep 17, 2020 |
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Jetrauben posted:I'll shut up. Arguing about FF is the entire point of this thread
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Given there is no release date Im treating this as not much more than a pitch document, and its kind of boring visually. That said, gameplay-wise it looks Dragons Dogma-esque and Im sure Im in for a plot where you kill the gods so itll probably be a fine time.
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lotta assumptions being made here based on one trailer for a game that probably won’t be out until 2023
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I wonder which will come first. FFVIIR Part 2 or FFXVI?
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Why are people calling a bunch of Japanese characters "white dudes" Is this like when people thought Tidus was white
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Augus posted:lotta assumptions being made here based on one trailer for a game that probably won’t be out until 2023 That's a pretty optimistic timeline, imo.
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Clarste posted:That's a pretty optimistic timeline, imo. Idk, yoshida runs a tight ship.
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Sep 17, 2020 00:48
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Jetrauben posted:And it was widely disliked for this. You're assuming I liked that, I didn't. 15 was widely panned for being a sausagefest 
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Why are people calling a bunch of Japanese characters "white dudes" Japan hasn't featured in any Final Fantasy games AFAIK.
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Disliked in the sense of "it was criticized for being a sausage fest" even if it was otherwise liked, to be clear?
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Would have been infinitely more interested in an Aranea-centered FF15
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Maybe this one will use 2 buttons for combat
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Why are people calling a bunch of Japanese characters "white dudes" Tidus is pretty clearly Asian-looking in the FMVs. Maybe's hes mixed race
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Those are absolutely terrible scores for a AAA game in one of the biggest franchises on Earth. That's a decidedly B- game when they were hoping for an A+. Like, I think FFXV is remember more fondly now than it was at release, but those are not good scores. Clarste fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Sep 17, 2020 |
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Sep 17, 2020 00:55
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XVI looks to be chasing an aesthetic i'm a bit bored of at this point, but I like XIV and it occasionally goes after similar vibes so perhaps it will surprise me.
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victrix posted:Gonna post again just to emphasize how incredibly loving good Heavensward and Shadowbringers are, god drat Yeah like there's still stuff about this aesthetic I don't dig and I think it has a little too much GoT/Witcher hanging over it* but I absolutely, without question, without hesitation, trust the guys at Biz3 to make an incredibly good Final Fantasy title in the 2020s. The team behind this will absolutely know what they are doing and can draw on resources to assist them as needed. It'll be good, y'all. * That said it does also look like it's going to be a bit savage to the idea of "nobility" since Joshua's family is clearly not portrayed sympathetically and it looks like even J himself may end up as an overarching villain? I'll be curious to see where they take this.
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