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Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
I'm not a fan of them using the movie designs where all the kids are wearing basically modern clothes under a long coat that they take off most of the time. Especially since the game takes place in the 1800s but everyones wearing like sweaters and khakis.

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BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


The games going to be like Assassins Creed where every famous person within 500 miles of Britain in the era pops up for a cameo and its revealed Benjamin Disraeli, Charles Dickens, Oscar Wilde etc. were all wizards.

The final villain will be the dark wizard Thomas Crapper and his devious plot to end the wizarding way of life.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

muscles like this! posted:

New Harry Potter game got officially announced at the Sony PS5 event going on right now.
https://twitter.com/HogwartsLegacy/status/1306326061131522048
Since it is set in the 1800s sounds like they're trying to sidestep any direct HP connection.

wernt like death duels and death curses legal until like the 1900s or some poo poo.





Sydin posted:

So it's set in the time period when wizards didn't have bathrooms and if they had to go they'd just drop trow where they stood and then vanish their piss and poo poo away to uh, somewhere?

Can't wait to see how that's implemented in game.

maybe theirs an abillity to seal opponents assholes shut.

Aglet56
Sep 1, 2011
what's the spell to leave a coat hanger on the stove for like a half hour

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
https://www.quora.com/Has-Harry-Potter-heard-about-9-11

quote:

I’m sure he has. The majority of The Cursed Child took place in the twenty-first century. And 9/11 was the biggest, and only major, terrorist attack on America. Many countries mourned for America. Buckingham Palace played the star spangled banner in honor of America.

Of course, this is more a muggle issue, and unless their were significant numbers of wizards in the building I doubt the wizards (at least in the U.K.) gave it much thought.

Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was actually some anti-muggle attack led by a dark wizard.

The american wizards however, probably took this as a much more serious issue. Especially if the incident was wizard related.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Incendio can't melt steel beams!

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
at no point in the last chapter did adult harry potter remind his children to never forget the terrible events of september 11 2001. why does harry potter hate america

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Angepain posted:

at no point in the last chapter did adult harry potter remind his children to never forget the terrible events of september 11 2001. why does harry potter hate america

The books take place in the 90s and Harry Potter was very bad at divination

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

The books take place in the 90s and Harry Potter was very bad at divination

The epilogue takes place in 2017 though

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Trelawney actually gave a prophecy about 9/11 but it sat in the Department of Mysteries for years because everybody at the ministry thought it was a crock of poo poo, and then when somebody finally got it passed overseas to the Wizard FBI they just nodded and chucked it in a bin.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Do you think the 2016 wizard election also went to a chud?

e: lmfao

quote:

Alternative names
Muggles[1] (Great Britain)
No-Majes[2] (USA)
Can't-Spells[3]
Non-Wizards[3]
Non-Magiques[4] (France)

Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Sep 18, 2020

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
uk wizards the only ones with the slightest hint of creativity in their slurs. kind of insulted to not have the slightest bit of effort from anyone else in insulting me for my lack of magical powers

e: the wizard elections are run by the ideology of jk rowling so they would be won by the blandest wizard centrist possible (while also hating trans people ofc)

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin

Tbh French as a language is so obnoxious about using entire sentences when one word will do, I’m surprised muggles aren’t “les hommes sans sorcellerie” in the French translation

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Trelawney had a divination final that just said 9/11 and if you didn't tear up you failed.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Hedrigall posted:

Tbh French as a language is so obnoxious about using entire sentences when one word will do, I’m surprised muggles aren’t “les hommes sans sorcellerie” in the French translation

The proper level of whimsy would mean the correct pronunciation involved taking a drag of a cigarette, which can be substituted with a pause and sigh in casual speech.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Les hommes qui ne possčdent pas la sorcellerie contrairement ŕ nous, les sorciers

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
In the french translation of the books it's "Moldus".

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011


Seems like isekai is better when it's actually another world instead of just a world that refuses to associate with the normal world.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

did Iraqi wizards cast concealment spells to hide the WMDs

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Probably just as well she didn't get into Al-Azhared

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
how do wizards feel about the royal family? Do they ever come up in the books at all?

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
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Suspect that wizards are all very fond of the Royal Family. "By appointment to the Queen" variations on Bertie Bott's Every-flavour Beans, Chocolate Frogs, Snape's own anti-sweat potion, Butterbeer.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The muggle Prime Minister is basically shown to occasionally get visits from the Minister of Magic with little warning, giving him information he has no context for and can't meaningfully act upon at all.

Man with Hat
Dec 26, 2007

Open up your Dethday present
It's a box of fucking nothing

Exciting Lemon

Ghost Leviathan posted:

The muggle Prime Minister is basically shown to occasionally get visits from the Minister of Magic with little warning, giving him information he has no context for and can't meaningfully act upon at all.

Actually, they say that usually the Prime Minister only gets one visit ever to let them know magic exists and they take care of themselves. The new one in book 6 gets several visits because Voldemort returns right then but that's an anomaly

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
The one in six would be Tony Blair wouldn’t it?

Did wizards participate in the invasion of Iraq?

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


I would imagine that's where all the aurors went yeah.

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


TheAardvark posted:

how do wizards feel about the royal family? Do they ever come up in the books at all?

Its established that even sapient humanoid magical creatures are considered to be no different than non-intelligent animals by wizarding society/ the government. I would definitely consider lizard people a kind of magical creature.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
It is interesting that according to Rowling wizards are just completely immune to nationalism. Did British wizards do nothing to help the muggle government during the blitz, because even if muggle Britain is replaced by muggle Germany, wizard Britain still goes on? How did Chinese wizards going to school in Japan feel about the Rape of Nanjing and various other Japanese atrocities - really no tensions there at all? What about colonies that threw off the imperial yoke: did American wizards team up with muggles during the Independence War, or did British wizards just never bother with the whole imperial hegemony thing and American wizards were self-governed from the start so they didn't give a gently caress about the muggles fighting?

You'd think of nothing else during periods of muggle war or rebellion or genocide there would be a decent crop of muggleborns who had muggle family affected who'd be compelled to act, if only in their own self interests.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
There was some kind of owl/broom air force that helped the entente in ww1. The gym teacher was involved. Yes, the one from the 90s.

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

The Fantastic Beasts movies have a few mentions of wizard characters fighting in WWI, and Johnny Depp's evil wizard plan is to stop the holocaust and the development of nuclear weapons.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




There's some stuff in the extended stuff about how the American wizards had a huge meeting about the war of independence and whether to take sides and I think negotiated magical neutrality with the ministry of magic or something?

It feels like they might have basically been in a state of MAD for centuries already when it comes to full on country-vs-country so proper wars with national wizarding governments on both sides are maybe something they avoid at all costs.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Sep 18, 2020

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
lmao of course the big war wizards canonically got involved in was the most pointless one imaginable. Very on brand.

MikeJF posted:

There's some stuff in the extended stuff about how the American wizards had a huge meeting about the war of independence and whether to take sides and I think negotiated magical neutrality with the ministry of magic or something?

Where's the art of the Congress of Wizards signing the Declaration of "gently caress Muggles"?

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Sydin posted:

It is interesting that according to Rowling wizards are just completely immune to nationalism. Did British wizards do nothing to help the muggle government during the blitz, because even if muggle Britain is replaced by muggle Germany, wizard Britain still goes on? How did Chinese wizards going to school in Japan feel about the Rape of Nanjing and various other Japanese atrocities - really no tensions there at all? What about colonies that threw off the imperial yoke: did American wizards team up with muggles during the Independence War, or did British wizards just never bother with the whole imperial hegemony thing and American wizards were self-governed from the start so they didn't give a gently caress about the muggles fighting?

You'd think of nothing else during periods of muggle war or rebellion or genocide there would be a decent crop of muggleborns who had muggle family affected who'd be compelled to act, if only in their own self interests.

Wizards not being nationalistic is hilarious since the keystone that keeps the Hogwarts bridge from collapsing as a piece of fiction is "British nationalism." If they're not nationalistic what the gently caress are they?

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

MikeJF posted:

There's some stuff in the extended stuff about how the American wizards had a huge meeting about the war of independence and whether to take sides and I think negotiated magical neutrality with the ministry of magic or something?

It feels like they might have basically been in a state of MAD for centuries already when it comes to full on country-vs-country so proper wars with national wizarding governments on both sides are maybe something they avoid at all costs.

JK Rowling is obnoxiously British enough to be bitter about the American Revolution.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
Especially after her background for how the American Wizarding Government formed. Which basically boils down to the fact that a bunch of British people showed the natives the errors of their backwards ways and how much better British magic was and then established a copy of the British government all built around a school that is explicitly a Hogwarts knock-off created by someone who never set foot in Hogwarts.

The wizards also supposedly basically peacefully integrated with the native American wizards who abandoned their deep ancestral ties to live in the clearly superior British mold because it was just better.


Basically everything she wrote about Ilvermorny and America is hilariously awful and gets really racist fast. It also presupposes a world where native American Wizards were integrated into the non-magical community in the Americas and then abandoned them as they were genocided to hang out with the cool British Wizards who had wands and schools and enforce the statute of secrecy.

Zore fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Sep 18, 2020

Boogle
Sep 1, 2004

Nap Ghost

Zore posted:

Especially after her background for how the American Wizarding Government formed. Which basically boils down to the fact that a bunch of British people showed the natives the errors of their backwards ways and how much better British magic was and then established a copy of the British government all built around a school that is explicitly a Hogwarts knock-off created by someone who never set foot in Hogwarts.

The wizards also supposedly basically peacefully integrated with the native American wizards who abandoned their deep ancestral ties to live in the clearly superior British mold because it was just better.

Basically everything she wrote about Ilvermorny and America is hilariously awful and gets really racist fast. It also presupposes a world where native American Wizards were integrated into the non-magical community in the Americas and then abandoned them as they were genocided to hang out with the cool British Wizards who had wands and schools and enforce the statute of secrecy.

A charitable interpretation would be that this is the official whitewashed historical narrative of colonial occupiers, but it's more likely that Rowling can't logically world build for poo poo because she's one of those British-centric shitheels that hate foreigners and LGBT individuals.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Like I said earlier, the whole magical world makes more sense if the 11 schools and all the rest are all just one set of super elite british-founded private schools that are the only magical communities the dipshit british purebloods recognize, and 99% of the rest of the wizarding world is just living their lives laughing at these assholes. Notice how not a foreign soul besides Fleur cared to help out with their insane racist civil war.

The school in Africa is like 20 magical rhodesian kids that even the british wizards look askance at these days. (also magical Rhodesia is going strong and the Malfoy family runs their equivalent of AIPAC)

Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Sep 19, 2020

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
What did wizards think of human slavery

Was it as whimsical to them as house elf slavery

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Listening to the Goblet of Fire audiobook atm, the scene where Fred and George tell Hermione that they've been down to the kitchens and everyone's happy is really super uncomfortable.

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SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Honestly, it's kinda generous to assume Rowling gave any thought at all to the background details of the setting, because the whole reason why there are all these horrible implications if you think about anything at length is because you're giving more thought to anything than she did.

Which is a big part of why Harry Potter isn't a solid foundation for expanding into a wider franchise.

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