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I've been at my job for 17 years. I'm 39. Last job? Who the gently caress knows. I always think I'm gonna get fired tomorrow.
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Sep 18, 2020 03:33
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How the hell has anyone kept a job at the same place for so long? Don't you get bored? Nearly every company I've ever been at has always done layoffs. 
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Sep 18, 2020 03:40
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Intern -> tech -> desktop admin -> network admin. This year I finally got a tech under me. I'm fine with being bored. I have my own hobbies. Also I'm single and I live alone and that's my focus on changing. I've also had the last week off and it's been glorious. No one appreciates you until you're gone a week and people realize what the gently caress you actually do.
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Sep 18, 2020 03:49
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Gabriel S. posted:How the hell has anyone kept a job at the same place for so long? Don't you get bored? Plenty of ways to not get bored, way too many to list.
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Sep 18, 2020 03:55
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Gabriel S. posted:How the hell has anyone kept a job at the same place for so long? Don't you get bored? 20 years in public education. There is always little people to put things in perspective.
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Sep 18, 2020 04:09
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I just got a notice in the monthly company email of an 45 year anniversary. We have a number of employees hitting 10+ year anniversary’s on the regular. I’m about to hit 5 myself, but I’m not super pleased with the attitude of our current CIO so we’ll see how much longer I last. But what’s kept me around is consistent raises and bonuses, getting to work with new tech and (for the most part) a well funded department. Spring Heeled Jack fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Sep 18, 2020 |
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Sep 18, 2020 04:27
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Thanks Ants posted:It only takes one buyout from an investment bank to poo poo all over your plans Thanks to Blackstone and London Stock Exchange. e: Just remembered I work with someone who got laid off twice and is still with this company. These people are hosed in the head.
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Sep 18, 2020 05:00
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Your “last job” is one rear end in a top hat manager away from not being your last job.
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Sep 18, 2020 07:02
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I've been at the same job for 18 years now, and I'm 37. It's a family owned company and I went to school with the COO/VP/Owners son,. We don't have a high turnover rate; a good portion of staff is 10+ years. A few are going on 30. Far as I know the company has never laid off anyone in its 35 year history
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Sep 18, 2020 13:41
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LochNessMonster posted:Your “last job” is one rear end in a top hat manager away from not being your last job. This is really true. A job can go from from "pretty happy" to "proactively emailing recruiters at Robert Half and TEKsystems" real fast because of toxic management.
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Sep 18, 2020 14:47
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I could see myself hanging at my job if I never want to move away from my city and state, and never see another meaningful raise in my life until my boss retired and I tried for her spot in 5+ years. So instead, i'm working on certs and coding/scripting skills and writing a big documentation bible I can leave behind for my replacement so they don't have to struggle uphill as much as I did when I started here.
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Sep 18, 2020 14:59
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captaingimpy posted:How is it decided when you need new servers? Is it load/performance based, or is it something like you need to setup a new customer? Is the DB software an actual database or is it something like a connector? New servers are spun up for new customers, for the most part. A few big customers have autoscaling, but the vast majority just have an AWS instance that's their own. The DB software runs on that instance along with the web server. For the most part these are fairly small servers, 2-4 GB RAM dealies.
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Sep 18, 2020 15:16
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Lazer Vampire Jr. posted:I could see myself hanging at my job if I never want to move away from my city and state, and never see another meaningful raise in my life until my boss retired and I tried for her spot in 5+ years. So instead, i'm working on certs and coding/scripting skills and writing a big documentation bible I can leave behind for my replacement so they don't have to struggle uphill as much as I did when I started here. I think the point is that people who are identifying their current position as their 'last job' are in a place where they can progress internally or they've reached a level they are happy to maintain, and the work keeps bringing interesting challenges. If you're currently financially comfortable, have a decent amount of free time, a job that isn't damaging your health then what really is there to gain by chasing a salary increase?
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Sep 18, 2020 15:17
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I just had an interview where they told me the process ends with a full day “shadowing” on site. Lol why the hell should I go in and do a full days work unpaid for a chance at a job
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Sep 18, 2020 17:53
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Tetramin posted:I just had an interview where they told me the process ends with a full day “shadowing” on site. Lol why the hell should I go in and do a full days work unpaid for a chance at a job Lol If thats unpaid. Id laugh at them and walk out the room.
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Sep 18, 2020 17:59
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Tetramin posted:I just had an interview where they told me the process ends with a full day “shadowing” on site. Lol why the hell should I go in and do a full days work unpaid for a chance at a job Yeah, I am pretty sure that is illegal.
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Sep 18, 2020 18:01
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I had an MSP want me to do that once and I said you’d have To pay me a full days worth of what my salary would be and they said they’re not ready to discuss salary and I noped the gently caress out of there.
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Sep 18, 2020 18:08
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Yeah I didn’t even think to ask if it’s paid, I just assumed no. I’ve got several opportunities in progress but I’m def gonna tell them hell no if I’m still looking when they get back to me and it is unpaid
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Sep 18, 2020 18:28
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Defenestrategy posted:Lol If thats unpaid. Id laugh at them and walk out the room.
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Sep 18, 2020 18:31
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Did they actually want you to just sort of sit behind somebody and watch them do their job for the day? I doubt they were giving out admin rbac or anything to their one-day unpaid intern to actually do work.
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Sep 18, 2020 18:35
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Thanks Ants posted:I think the point is that people who are identifying their current position as their 'last job' are in a place where they can progress internally or they've reached a level they are happy to maintain, and the work keeps bringing interesting challenges. Yeah, from my perspective, it's less "last job," and more "last employer." I want to go somewhere where my future career moves will be internal. Ideally, somewhere where I also get rewarded for loyalty (i.e. something like a public pension, and significantly increasing PTO with seniority).
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Sep 18, 2020 18:49
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Do it and steal everything from the cafeteria.
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Sep 18, 2020 19:46
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Gort posted:New servers are spun up for new customers, for the most part. A few big customers have autoscaling, but the vast majority just have an AWS instance that's their own. The DB software runs on that instance along with the web server. For the most part these are fairly small servers, 2-4 GB RAM dealies. I'd definitely look at CloudFormation or Jenkins/Terraform for this. You could even capture/document the passwords and IPs if the software you're using to manage those has an API.
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Sep 18, 2020 19:54
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Methanar posted:Did they actually want you to just sort of sit behind somebody and watch them do their job for the day? Lol yeah that’s a good question. They’re a hvac/plumbing company so that’s probably part of the process for their techs who do that stuff. But yep she basically said it’s a day of shadowing the person doing the role. You are right about them probably not setting up accounts and stuff so at best it’d be loving excruciatingly boring
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Sep 18, 2020 20:55
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Re last job talk. My friend has a term for us that job hop. We’re “intellectual prostitutes”. I’m fine with it.
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Sep 18, 2020 22:48
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Tetramin posted:I just had an interview where they told me the process ends with a full day “shadowing” on site. Lol why the hell should I go in and do a full days work unpaid for a chance at a job Am I doing actual work? Personally, I'd be quite okay with just getting lunch with my future co-workers or hanging out with them during an afternoon. I really wish more employees offered that opportunity.
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Sep 18, 2020 23:49
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capitalcomma fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Sep 19, 2020 |
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Sep 19, 2020 06:50
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Methanar posted:Did they actually want you to just sort of sit behind somebody and watch them do their job for the day? More importantly, why would anyone think this is a good idea with COVID and general social distancing?
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Sep 19, 2020 11:57
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My org is transitioning from Win 7 to 10 and I'm setting up new machines. My goal is just to be able to unplug their old machine, drop in the new, and basically be done so I have a powershell script to grab their current profile, pst, and bookmarks. But without their login info I can't just throw their info into a c:\users\johndoe folder, it has to be created by Windows first or after their initial login to the machine their profile will actually be in c:\users\johndoe.workdomain Is there a way around this without asking every user for their login / pw?
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Sep 19, 2020 15:18
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regulargonzalez posted:My org is transitioning from Win 7 to 10 and I'm setting up new machines. My goal is just to be able to unplug their old machine, drop in the new, and basically be done so I have a powershell script to grab their current profile, pst, and bookmarks. But without their login info I can't just throw their info into a c:\users\johndoe folder, it has to be created by Windows first or after their initial login to the machine their profile will actually be in c:\users\johndoe.workdomain Sounds like you're reinventing USMT? How many users are we talking about.
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Sep 19, 2020 15:57
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Honey Im Homme posted:Sounds like you're reinventing USMT? How many users are we talking about. Not familiar with USMT, does it work before windows has created the user profile? I have about 75 machines to replace.
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Sep 19, 2020 16:19
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regulargonzalez posted:My org is transitioning from Win 7 to 10 and I'm setting up new machines. My goal is just to be able to unplug their old machine, drop in the new, and basically be done so I have a powershell script to grab their current profile, pst, and bookmarks. But without their login info I can't just throw their info into a c:\users\johndoe folder, it has to be created by Windows first or after their initial login to the machine their profile will actually be in c:\users\johndoe.workdomain There are a bunch of registry keys you need to create too But Honey Im Homme posted:Sounds like you're reinventing USMT? How many users are we talking about. This. USMT is the way to go. It’s built in to MDT too, so you can set up a task that copies the usmt data to a network share, then another that rehydrates it on a new computer. Network boot old computer, wait, network boot new computer, wait, done. Or, if you want to get fancy, you image the new computer and it automatically pulls the usmt data and rehydrates it during the imaging process. You can also do this with sccm if your org has it. USMT is cool.
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Sep 19, 2020 16:21
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regulargonzalez posted:Not familiar with USMT, does it work before windows has created the user profile? It does. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/usmt/usmt-overview
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Sep 19, 2020 16:21
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Thanks all! SCCM is our big project for next year but I'll look into USMT.
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Sep 19, 2020 17:37
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regulargonzalez posted:Thanks all! SCCM is our big project for next year but I'll look into USMT. I cannot overstate how much this is a mistake vs InTune unless you're supporting large numbers of W7 clients. And if you are, that's a mistake too.
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Sep 19, 2020 17:39
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The Iron Rose posted:I cannot overstate how much this is a mistake vs InTune unless you're supporting large numbers of W7 clients. And if you are, that's a mistake too. This decision was made above me and is being headed by my boss and another employee who has experience in SCCM, so it's not really my call. I'm fairly new / getting back into IT after taking a few years off. I'm the senior desktop support person and do a bit of AD but am mostly trying to catch up to the current state of the industry after being out of it for several years. Right now we're using Kace which seems pretty basic so anything should be an upgrade. E: if it matters, there are about 550 devices, almost all Win 10 desktops and laptops, some Surfaces with Windows 8, and a smattering of ipads. And about 115 Win 7 machines, 75 of which I'm responsible for getting onto 10 by the end of the year. regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Sep 19, 2020 |
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Sep 19, 2020 18:03
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That's a small enough number that Intune can easily cope with it
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Sep 19, 2020 18:14
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Just can't really imagine the conversation of, "hey boss, the planning and work you've been doing for SCCM? You should stop with all that and do this instead. Take it from me, your new hire, the desktop support guy" when I don't even know enough about it to know what I'm talking about.
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Sep 19, 2020 18:22
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When I was tier 1, and I wanted to change the opinions of people above me, I'd usually start on the specific problems that they were dealing with, and frame my pitch around that. "Hey guys, you know how our current config management can't do X, and it's frustrating everyone? Check out this video I found on Youtube of Intune doing exactly that. Looks pretty sweet." It's how you introduce new solutions in to the conversation. You're not going to say "let's do this instead", cause like you said, you don't have the influence to do that. But you can make people aware of it, and if (when) SCCM starts pissing people off next year, you've planted the seed, and I'll bet someone is going to say, "there's got to be a product that doesn't require a dozen full-time admins to loving manage it. Say, didn't regulargonzalez show us that Toon thingy? I wonder if that could work?" You don't need to start with "don't use SCCM", there's a dozen things you can say and do before that, that will start opening up minds, raising awareness of alternatives, planting doubts about the current plan, and when you get good enough at this stuff, you won't need to say "don't use SCCM", your seniors will reach the conclusion on their own. (It also helps that SCCM will be a major source of strain on the department, and it will do most of the work of changing peoples' minds for you.) capitalcomma fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Sep 19, 2020 |
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I just noticed you mentioned that you're senior desktop support with a few years in the labor force, so this advice may be poo poo you already know. Sorry. I was mainly writing it for younger IT professionals new to working in the industry. Lord knows, when I was a fresh-out-of-school newb, just started in desktop support, this advice would have been very useful to me. Influencing opinion of your co-workers and managers is an essential skill, in any job.
capitalcomma fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Sep 19, 2020 |
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