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star eater posted:oh good, more evidence that pubbies SUCK at this game. i didn’t see that cause i only started playing in s5 I am not surprised they suck, lots of people suck and that's ok. What I'm surprised at is how this game supposedly has SBMM but puts me in a casual game with two bad players and the champ squad is a very hardcore 3-stack all with badges I'm nowhere close to earning. Or when I group up with Diamond level players and get put in a game where every other squad, seemingly, has a Mr. Beam in it (as in, you're gonna get beam'd by some pretty great shots). It just doesn't seem to work, I'm always either vastly too good or way too bad. dogstile posted:Sure they get punked a lot, but they're willing to fight so they're probably gonna hit the odd shot. The fuckwits who land on the edge of the map and creep about? I keep telling myself i should just leave those games. Not once have I seen that sort of squad win a fight without me downing all three enemies solo. Confession: I actually do just leave those games. I'm not a dick or anything, I throw my poo poo on the ground, ping it, and leave. Enjoy playing Apex: Stealth Action edition, I'm not interested.
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i literally without fail will always drop straight down to the nearest poi whenver i am jumpmaster e: on that note, i don't know if jump strats were ever changed, is it still follow a gradual exponential curve down to the location or are there different strats for approaching different distances?
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Sep 19, 2020 01:39
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I know I suck, and many times I am the pubbie where my teammates have 5-7 kills and 1000 damage and I'm chilling with maybe 100 damage and a few revives.
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Sep 19, 2020 01:42
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Just had my jumpmaster overshoot the cargo ship, plunging us into the water next to the hanging skull. Total playtime: 23 seconds
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Sep 19, 2020 02:49
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Car Hater posted:Just had my jumpmaster overshoot the cargo ship, plunging us into the water next to the hanging skull. Total playtime: 23 seconds
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Sep 19, 2020 02:53
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Flying through the laser is a good one, too.
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Sep 19, 2020 03:42
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Lots of good improvement chat, it's helpful to hear about this stuff I think. One thing I know I struggle with is the team mentality. Like ok first pubbie ignores us and wanders off and gets 3v1'd. Then my teammate runs into the building and immediately dies. I know what's gonna happen is I solo push that position but feel bad about my 'team' despite the fact that I had little to do then both dying. The only time I've legit just left someone to expire on purpose was some dick who didn't communicate, ran into the middle of two teams fighting and then acted like I was the rear end in a top hat for not 'pushing'. Instead I got two of the other teams that were fighting, ran ahead of the ring and took out a guy in a three team squad, all while the dick jawed about how good they were and how much I sucked. I really don't get people sometimes.
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Sep 19, 2020 04:03
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Playing the game to gain situational awareness is important, I spent a bunch of time a few months ago aim training as best I could in the firing range and it really helped.
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Sep 19, 2020 04:09
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Pubbies that I've encountered lately using their mics: - Australian bogans who were way too intense about a video game - New Zealand bogans who were way too intense about a video game - White South African children who were suuuuuuuuuper racist Carillon posted:The only time I've legit just left someone to expire on purpose was some dick who didn't communicate, ran into the middle of two teams fighting and then acted like I was the rear end in a top hat for not 'pushing'. Instead I got two of the other teams that were fighting, ran ahead of the ring and took out a guy in a three team squad, all while the dick jawed about how good they were and how much I sucked. I really don't get people sometimes. The only unforgivable sin for me that I won't revive/respawn for is someone who spams the enemy button when they've been knocked down and then spams the respawn beacon button when they're dead. Go play Call of Duty you narcissistic child.
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Sep 19, 2020 14:39
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I am not surprised they suck, lots of people suck and that's ok. What I'm surprised at is how this game supposedly has SBMM but puts me in a casual game with two bad players and the champ squad is a very hardcore 3-stack all with badges I'm nowhere close to earning. Or when I group up with Diamond level players and get put in a game where every other squad, seemingly, has a Mr. Beam in it (as in, you're gonna get beam'd by some pretty great shots). It just doesn't seem to work, I'm always either vastly too good or way too bad. i mean, if 90% of players suck, is there even a proper skill spread on the demographics to fully fill out SBMM properly?
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Sep 19, 2020 15:23
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star eater posted:i mean, if 90% of players suck, is there even a proper skill spread on the demographics to fully fill out SBMM properly? The problem with Apex SBMM is that it doesn't reflect what most people expect of the word "skill". Going by the (bad) metric of player distribution across ranks, at the end of Season 5: Bronze 16.21% Silver 22.83% Gold 32.3% Platinum 23.96% Diamond 4.37% Master/Predator 0.31% Very important note: these stats include players who have played more than 2 hours only. I think this causes overrepresentation of low ranks because getting high rank needs more activity. Does it mean diamond player should be better than ~95% of players? Maybe on average across many games, which is when the SBMM model in Apex actually works. The problem is they stir it up every several weeks to "motivate" people and you can't downrank otherwise, so it will never reach a representative equilibrium point. I don't think 90% of players suck, I think there is confirmation bias where bad play is more noticeable but everyone makes mistakes some games. Moving up the rank punishes you harder for making mistake, but it also punishes you for your teams mistake, like suicide play or trolling plat because you can't downrank and get stuck at P4 and get matched with diamond trying to claw way up and you can burn their 48RP. Thanks Respawn very cool I'm not sure where this post was going and it turned into a bit rant
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Yellow Yoshi posted:I'm not sure where this post was going and it turned into a bit rant Ranked sucks because there's no incentive at points and you don't really care. SBMM sucks but there really isn't a viable solution unless your playerbase is 1,000,000+ strong and your matchmaking is done by some hyperAI that juggles metrics of skill, consistency, server connection, and what you ate for breakfast that day. I still think Ranked needs a "hook". Like, any game you get +150 RP in, you get crafting mats. Or at the end of a season, you get Apex Packs * Your Ranked Level. Something to convince people to both work hard and not give up.
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Sep 19, 2020 20:30
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I'd give a poo poo about ranked if i got permanent dive trails or something. Sucks they took that out.
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Sep 19, 2020 20:55
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freebooter posted:
Do people generally find people who spam enemy when down annoying? I only do it when I'm getting thirst finishered as a general indicator that it's happening but idk what that even looks like to my team since I never see anyone do it for me
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Sep 19, 2020 22:42
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Like, despite the talk of terrible pubbies or whatever, it still amazes me how little awareness people in this game have. https://clips.twitch.tv/HeadstrongPleasantPelicanDoritosChip Though does work out when people expect you to have the same level of awareness. https://clips.twitch.tv/BetterBloodyOtterBudBlast dogstile posted:I'd give a poo poo about ranked if i got permanent dive trails or something. Sucks they took that out. Wait, you don't even get to keep the dive trails? Trash. Futaba Anzu posted:Do people generally find people who spam enemy when down annoying? I only do it when I'm getting thirst finishered as a general indicator that it's happening but idk what that even looks like to my team since I never see anyone do it for me I too use it if I'm being finished, but I'm also usually on mic. There are definitely some people that just spam it all over the place because they've been downed. Luckily you can mute teammate pings.
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Sep 19, 2020 22:43
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I've kept my original dive trail since the first ranked season, is it only the later trails they remove every season?
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Sep 19, 2020 23:38
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I've kept my original dive trail since the first ranked season, is it only the later trails they remove every season? Yeah they decided to make the dive trails a limited time thing in Ranked Series 3 (Season 4). But it would be real lovely to take them away after the fact so the trails for Series 1 & 2 are permanent. Kinda negates what they were going for IMO.
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Sep 20, 2020 00:19
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That sucks. I want a dive trail but no one played ranked back then(or now). I've been waiting in a game since season 1 and I'm still 1 of 1 in the queue.
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Sep 20, 2020 01:16
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So if you’re a curve wrecker then you’re gonna get trash teammates in solo queue because SBMM is trying to balance the relative skill in each squad. Since you’re consistently placing high and doing a lot of damage I bet it will sandbag your squad to even things out. If your win rate is above 5% you’re probably on the right side of the curve.
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Sep 20, 2020 01:34
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They want you to win 5% of your games so at 15% I was probably breaking the gently caress out of their algorithm.  It's fine they fixed it, I haven't had a random teammate stay past the first fight in the past 20 games
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dogstile posted:I'd give a poo poo about ranked if i got permanent dive trails or something. Sucks they took that out. Agreed. I was absolutely crushed when they did this. John DiFool posted:So if you’re a curve wrecker then you’re gonna get trash teammates in solo queue because SBMM is trying to balance the relative skill in each squad. Since you’re consistently placing high and doing a lot of damage I bet it will sandbag your squad to even things out. I get what you're saying but why the gently caress is the Champ squad a 3 stack of absolute murderers? SBMM just shrugging it's dang shoulders and saying "Hey man I gotta make a game here?" Because when I play with a Diamond-level player I get put in the queue where half the squads are those types...why are they showing up in the "an ok solo player and two slices of ham" queue? (rhetorical question, none of us know enough about the internals to determined this). Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Agreed. I was absolutely crushed when they did this. I'm guessing here, but I think SBMM *tries* to place premades and solo & duos into separate queues. But if there's not enough people on to make somewhat balanced lobbies it will probably merge the queues. I've seen this type of behavior in Titanfall 2's matchmaking system.
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dogstile posted:They want you to win 5% of your games so at 15% I was probably breaking the gently caress out of their algorithm. I was going to make some self own saying I veer horribly to the other side of that but I guess actually I'm not doing too horrible at 15 wins in 390 games s6 so far which puts me at around 3.8% winrate so far
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SBMM should be tuned to make every squad a trio of a high-skill player, a totally average player, and a comic relief permanent wood league player
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Sep 21, 2020 07:50
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Honestly i'd just settle for not getting put into trio lobbies as a solo player.
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Sep 21, 2020 09:59
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Yeah the level of random player has gone down even further, it seems. I've taken to just narrating how dumb my mates are over the mic, thanking them for terrible drops and commenting on them looting while the circle's up their rear end. Can't wait until the switch newcomers swamp comes through with crossplay.
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Sep 21, 2020 12:33
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Sep 21, 2020 15:12
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Sometimes pubbies are lucky! In the far distance we heard teams fighting. And then the ring took them all. Good times.
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Sep 21, 2020 15:35
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I had a pubbie called ElonMuskquito. It made me laugh so i'm posting it here.
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Despite my initial disappointment regarding the evo shield situation, Armed & Dangerous has been amazing for my win rate. Probably because of the easy access to Triple Takes. I’ll be sad to see it go tomorrow.
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Sep 22, 2020 01:13
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DUMMIES MODE LETS GO!!! gently caress those wraith hitboxes, I just want to shoot dummy mans!
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i've been getting put in trios with people who are >level 250 and have diamond badges, but i've been getting 2+ kills most games and breaking 1k damage. win rate is slightly above 5%. feeling overconfident from this, i foolishly decided to solo queue a ranked game. for the first time in weeks since i quit playing ranked i just wanted to get my 100 points to go from silver 1 into gold 4 one teammate quit at character select. other teammate fell off the map while looting, before we fired a single shot. 30 seconds later a full squad walks right by me to go loot his deathbox, turns around, and shreds me. man in the eyeball hat fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Sep 23, 2020 01:47
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Well, at least if they quit at character select, you shouldn't lose RP with the forgiveness, right? 
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If you’re dropping 1k per game against Diamond players you should be able to win silver games this late in the season with one hand and no teammates.
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Chemmy posted:If you’re dropping 1k per game against Diamond players you should be able to win silver games this late in the season with one hand and no teammates. They said they're getting Diamond teammates. Doesn't mean the rest of the lobby is Diamonds.
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goku i won't do what u tell me
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Regrettable posted:They said they're getting Diamond teammates. Doesn't mean the rest of the lobby is Diamonds. no, champion was typically diamond. i duo queued with a friend (i'm low 100s, he's mid 100s) after that ranked incident and our pubbies were <level 50 with level 250-level 500 champions still. man in the eyeball hat fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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i really don't get how the trios MM works at this point. I'm not a diamond player, nor do i profess to be, but I get queued with diamond champs frequently. in the same matches i get matched with teammates who have seemingly never played the game before. occasionally i get matched with a squad that carries my rear end (33k kill lifeline + 7k kill crypto carried my rear end in a trio game a few weeks ago). I hit mid gold in season 5 and gave up on ranked in this split because the difficult lobby-to-lobby seemed extremely inconsistent pushing through silver even when I queued with the same 3-stack of people as last season when we hit mid-gold man in the eyeball hat fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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My buddy just picked up a PS4 fo free and wanted to start gaming. We've been playing some warzone and i mentioned if he likes BRs than apex is alot of fun with the movement and combat. He downloaded it and i took him into the firing range where we were immediately overwhelmend by the amount of poo poo going on wrt shields, ammo, guns much less the combat mechanics. We dicked around a bit and went into a game but idk if its my MMR or what but he got immediately smoked Are there any good introductory videos? Hes down to watch and learn. I just don't know what to send him. How do you introduce someone to apex E: im also a gold/plat(4) player but it was unranked
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