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Notahippie posted:To me it implies the existence of a kind of Ian Banks Culture-esque human society outside of the Empire. Given the context clues in Harrow John has been searching 10 millennia for the people responsible for the destruction of the 9 planets and he also believes the BoE "doesn't have any right to what they've abandoned" I figure the rest of the human race is out somewhere after abandoning Earth when the sun started failing. John's idea to reignite the sun was ignored and the government's collected a select few best and brightest and fled leaving billions to eventually die.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Anima and Animus are the two parts of the soul, feminine and masculine, respectively. Given that Lictor's are a combination of two people, hetero-normative genders don't really apply anymore. I kind of doubt that the Second House actually wrote their report to say “necromantic specialty: lesbian.”
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Rand Brittain posted:I kind of doubt that the Second House actually wrote their report to say “necromantic specialty: lesbian.” But imagine if they had.
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Oh my god please tell me that Harrow is not written mostly or entirely in second person. I had no idea how much that triggered me until I read the first page and recoiled in horror.
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ConfusedUs posted:Oh my god please tell me that Harrow is not written mostly or entirely in second person. Mebbe half. I still don't get the hate from folks on that, though.
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Sep 18, 2020 00:43
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silvergoose posted:Mebbe half. I still don't get the hate from folks on that, though. Yeah. I didn’t know I hated until I ran into it. I don’t think I’ve read a second person book since my last Choose Your Own Adventure.
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I didnt enjoy the second person, but you get used to it, and the book is good enough it's worth ploughing on
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ConfusedUs posted:Yeah. I didn’t know I hated until I ran into it. The other one recently was The Fifth Season which I guess you might want to avoid now! (it's one of my favorites, so clearly the concept doesn't bother me)
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I just took it to be Gideon's perspective of the goings on told through an internal narrative, since Harrow had absorbed her. The circumstances of what she had done to herself told to herself since she didn't want/couldn't to do it for herself You do have an internal narrative, right? I thought that was normal. I would describe HtN as frustrating more than anything else. It's a good book.
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Collateral posted:I just took it to be Gideon's perspective of the goings on told through an internal narrative, since Harrow had absorbed her. The circumstances of what she had done to herself told to herself since she didn't want/couldn't to do it for herself Oh it's undeniably Gideon's perspective, but that doesn't change one's like or dislike of 2nd person narrative. Just doesn't work for some people.
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Gatts posted:I heard there were lesbian necromancers raising bones... The execution of this joke in the second book is pretty spot on.
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I did not like the second person until I did, so credit to Muir for making me come around I guess. Probably took 200 pages or so?
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I really disliked it in the fifth season, but it works here, and there’s a transition at the end that really kicks rear end.
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I really liked it in both. Different tastes, I suppose!
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Finished Harrow. Deeply weird book but very worthwhile.
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I'm honestly not surprised that God is a meme lord considering he spends all his time on his tablet
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Happy Landfill posted:I'm honestly not surprised that God is a meme lord considering he spends all his time on his tablet It's arguably the biggest clue as to Gideon v2.0's true parentage.
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Entropic posted:It's arguably the biggest clue as to Gideon v2.0's true parentage. I really don't think meme lordship is genetic. I ...think
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Some people are born memelords and some people have memes thrusted upon them.
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Senerio posted:Some people are born memelords and some people have memes thrusted upon them. Gideon appropriate because this is also the phrase that probably wins the title for "dick joke most often quoted by people who don't realize it was originally a dick joke"
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Tamsyn Muir talks about her next books post Locked Tomb Trilogy: https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/tasmyn-muir-on-gideon-the-ninth-the-locked-tomb-trilogy-spec-fic quote:Is "lesbian gunslinger under the sea" the new "lesbian necromancers in space?" I didn't realize Alecto doesn't come out until 2022 though. 
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2022? But what else am I supposed to look forward to in the trash fire that is certain to be next year?? Please let that be a typo  Super excited to hear about her new stuff. She clearly has a lot of really fun ideas and I'm excited to see more of her as a writer and a storyteller. Harrow was just a fascinating read and I'd love to see her do more with that sort-of meta storytelling. I'm not even sure is "meta storytelling" is quite the phrase I'm going for but hopefully you get what I'm trying to say?
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Yeah it was amazing how quickly I went from "uhh I'm not sure I'll enjoy this" (wrt the second person narrator in Harrow) to totally eating it up. I loved slowly figuring out what the hell was going on. Tamsyn was very good at dropping hints and new mysteries every couple of pages. Most fun thing I've read in a while. I was really looking forward to Alecto next year, too, shame that it's going to be a year later than expected.
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"I wrote Gideon focusing on an inevitably homoerotic relationship between every woman who stands next to another woman for more than five seconds." https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-butch-lesbian-sci-fi-aesthetic-a-conversation-with-tamsyn-muir/
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Finished Gideon, found the whole thing quite enjoyable except for a fairly minor detail I hoped the Emperor will be more terrifying and dread inducing but he is kinda just a sad man Now off to start Harrow! LOL@ Necromantic aptitude: lesbian Sekenr fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Nov 2, 2020 |
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:The Audible VO struggling with New Zealand slang ends up creating a bunch of moments that are funny for very different reasons than intended. Like don't get me wrong, she does a great job and Kiwi slang is weird as poo poo, it's just very funny to hear "You egg!" said like it's Elizabeth Bennet admonishing Mr. Darcy. It's a playground insult, it's like an equivalent of "buttmunch" or something and I think the original intent was to make them sound childish, but the VO delivers it with such tremendous gravitas. you know i cant grab your ghost chips gideon
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Sekenr posted:Although if I were to complain - someone should take thesaurus from her, she uses shitton of obscure words for no good reason IMO. I never had to use kindle's dictionary so often with any other book ever. Y'know, when I was a kid, I loved it when I came across a word I didn't know in a book. Meant I was about to learn a new word! And hey as it turns out I still do. I like words, words are cool. People should use more of them, imo 
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