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MourningView posted:I barely follow hockey but hasn't their thing recently been being really awesome in the regular season and then falling apart in the playoffs
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Bird in a Blender posted:Yea, I get what they're going for, it just seems silly to me because it seems to be putting an emphasis on the time, when 5 years to make finals is a really short time. I just see it a lot, like first time team has thrown a no hitter in three years, when that is kind of short period of time for something like that. I think it's just something that doesn't need to be said in a headline. Like 20 years? Sure, that actually seems worth saying something. "Lightning Make Second Stanley Cup Final in Five Years" would emphasize the impressiveness instead of insinuating a long struggle.
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Big fedora guy energy https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1307668142429220864?s=19
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Glad to see Whitlock adding "incel" to his repertoire. It really compliments his ability to make racists more comfortable with themselves.
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Sep 20, 2020 19:36
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Aggro posted:I mean, the staff of Defector cover womens sports have historically covered them at a far greater clip than their contemporaries than, well, every sports site in history. So, I have the utmost confidence that they will. Giri will have many words about the US Open tomorrow. Aggro posted:Why would they do that? The NFL is a media behemoth that towers in popularity over every other major league in the United States. Magary is one of the sites biggest draws, and he is primarily a football writer. The NFL just had its season-opening weekend, and many of the games were very good. They want to attract readers and keep them engaged...why not write about football? Women are 51% of the population and you talk about them like they're some weird niche pizza topping people would only resort to after they'd gotten bored of pineapple and corn.
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Huego posted:Women are 51% of the population and you talk about them like they're some weird niche pizza topping people would only resort to after they'd gotten bored of pineapple and corn. I hope they cover women's sports more often but this is real bad logic. If 51% of the population cared about the WNBA they'd be covered everywhere
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morestuff posted:I hope they cover women's sports more often but this is real bad logic. If 51% of the population cared about the WNBA they'd be covered everywhere for as we know, everyone is born with an innate list of hobbies, and marketing and media have absolutely no influence whatsoever. oh, how I would love to watch baseball, but sadly I was born a horseshoes-thrower and I'll die a horseshoes-thrower. anyone else about to hitch up their cargo jorts and chide me that the way the world Is is the way it has Always Been and always Must Be can spare me. it's not natural to consider half the population an afterthought. that's a state of affairs that's been built and actively maintained by people like Aggro and you.
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Huego posted:for as we know, everyone is born with an innate list of hobbies, and marketing and media have absolutely no influence whatsoever. oh, how I would love to watch baseball, but sadly I was born a horseshoes-thrower and I'll die a horseshoes-thrower. ok
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Henchman of Santa posted:Big fedora guy energy man imagine having the balls to criticize anyone elses sense of humor when youre jason whitlock
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Huego posted:for as we know, everyone is born with an innate list of hobbies, and marketing and media have absolutely no influence whatsoever. oh, how I would love to watch baseball, but sadly I was born a horseshoes-thrower and I'll die a horseshoes-thrower. Defectors primary purpose is to sell subscriptions. If they have quality writing about more niche sports and that stuff finds an audience, then great, but its not their job or the best use of their resources to go out of the way to create increased interest in other sports. They have a finite number of writers with a finite number of hours in the day, priority number 1 is always going to be getting clicks.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Big fedora guy energy "aroused bloggers" is Jason telling on himself.
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Not that it should matter but Maria Taylor was a significantly better college athlete than either Whitlock or Doug Gottlieb who also made an rear end of himself about this yesterday
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General Dog posted:Defectors primary purpose is to sell subscriptions. If they have quality writing about more niche sports and that stuff finds an audience, then great, but its not their job or the best use of their resources to go out of the way to create increased interest in other sports. Oh so, if I get you right, this is just the way things Are and therefore the way they Must Be.
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Huego posted:Oh so, if I get you right, this is just the way things Are and therefore the way they Must Be. If the WNBA commanded as much attention as the NFL, it would be a better use of resources. But it isn't.
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AsInHowe posted:If the WNBA commanded as much attention as the NFL, it would be a better use of resources. But it isn't. Oh so, if I get you right, this is just the way things Are and therefore the way they Must Be.
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Sep 20, 2020 20:14
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Defector does not have the means to unilaterally change how It Is, and to be viable under the correct subscription model must cater its coverage accordingly.
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Thats kind of silly, there is no reason to assume covering something more actually effects subs. Covering something would but outside that its a bit of an assumption
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Sep 20, 2020 20:20
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General Dog posted:Defector does not have the means to unilaterally change how It Is, and to be viable under the correct subscription model must cater its coverage accordingly. Oh so, if I get you right, this is just the way things Are and therefore the way they Must Be.
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Sep 20, 2020 20:22
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CharlestheHammer posted:Thats kind of silly, there is no reason to assume covering something more actually effects subs. If you were considering subscribing to a site that posted about 10-12 articles per day, and 4-6 of those articles were reliably about something that you have no existing knowledge of or interest in (lets say, for example, motor sports), would that have no impact on your decision?
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Not really I would only read an article a day at that. There aint that much to talk about in sports
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Huego posted:Oh so, if I get you right, this is just the way things Are and therefore the way they Must Be. Yeah, the business model that caters to a group of people is going after what the majority of people want coverage of, so the bulk of it goes that way. Because that's how things work.
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AsInHowe posted:Yeah, the business model that caters to a group of people is going after what the majority of people want coverage of, so the bulk of it goes that way. Because that's how things work. Cmon man, you know the response youre going to get at this point.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Big fedora guy energy https://twitter.com/katienolan/status/1307729899780792320
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Defector is beginning to put out posts about womens sports and Ive enjoyed reading them. I stopped following the NFL years ago and usually pass on their football articles, but I also get why theyre pumping them out. I think holding Defector to such a high standard of inclusiveness as theyre getting off the ground, when we know they worked towards it at Deadspin, is a little too harsh.
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Dinosaurs! posted:Defector is beginning to put out posts about womens sports and Ive enjoyed reading them. I stopped following the NFL years ago and usually pass on their football articles, but I also get why theyre pumping them out. i think its okay to hold a thing that you are a direct subscriber and supporter of to a higher standard, especially considering that they have their own editorial standards and arent beholden to anyone except for (wait for it) the subscribers so if you dont want to subscribe to it because it doesnt have enough womens sports coverage, thats valid. you can choose to subscribe later if they add more or not at all if they dont. you are not ethically required to foot the bill for defector if youre not happy with it, and its okay to express dissatisfaction with it given their high number of women on staff
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Thats absolutely fair. I dont blame anyone for not subscribing or cancelling if Defector isnt covering what they want. I simultaneously think theyre allowed a little leeway while finding their new groove.
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Sep 20, 2020 23:16
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Defectors been pretty great so far and they wrote about the Lynx before the Timberwolves which is as it should be. Really happy I subscribed.
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lol did Whitlock really think he was gonna say that without getting his teeth kicked in
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AsInHowe posted:Yeah, the business model that caters to a group of people is going after what the majority of people want coverage of, so the bulk of it goes that way. Because that's how things work. so you're saying they should stick to sports
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:so you're saying they should stick to sports What in the whole deadpan affair would give you the idea that sticking to sports is what people want in their coverage?
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Didnt realize there were so many womens sports fans on SAS. Cant seem to find our wnba playoffs thread though.
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Wow someone unironically did that Bors comic, weird
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Neodoomium posted:lol did Whitlock really think he was gonna say that without getting his teeth kicked in
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Adun posted:Didnt realize there were so many womens sports fans on SAS. Cant seem to find our wnba playoffs thread though. bud, it's not hard to cop to not being into women's sports and also realize that perhaps the reason for that is lack of exposure and indoctrination.
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:lol remember when he wanted to edit Ta-Nehisi Coates? My god, no I don't remember that
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Neodoomium posted:My god, no I don't remember that He wanted him to write for the undefeated back when the plan for that was still for it to be Whitlock's vanity site, and when Coates turned him down Whitlock lost his mind even more and started tweeting constantly about Coates being one of the dreaded Fake Wokes who was lying to black people. That and the Greg Howard black QB piece that called him out for a few paragraphs really seem to be what sent him over the edge. Mr. Fix It posted:bud, it's not hard to cop to not being into women's sports and also realize that perhaps the reason for that is lack of exposure and indoctrination. I think it would be good for everyone to cover women's sports more but it seems weird to act like defector, which does it better than any mainstream site, is the problem here, or act like a fledgling subscription only website putting out a few more WNBA pieces is going to be the thing that causes the WNBA to overtake the NFL. Anyway for like the 10,000 time the reason it seemed especially NFL heavy in the first few days is because they timed the launch to coincide with the start of the season and were trying to fit like two months of Magarey content into two weeks to make up for lost time. MourningView fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Sep 21, 2020 |
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MourningView posted:
oh yeah, i'm not on board with that particular criticism of defector. i'm happy with the output so far and will happily continue my subscription next year at this rate.
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MourningView posted:He wanted him to write for the undefeated back when the plan for that was still for it to be Whitlock's vanity site, and when Coates turned him down Whitlock lost his mind even more and started tweeting constantly about Coates being one of the dreaded Fake Wokes who was lying to black people. That and the Greg Howard black QB piece that called him out for a few paragraphs really seem to be what sent him over the edge. What a colossal loser. He posted some more bullshit about Katie Nolan today but who wants to read that
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