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https://twitter.com/benmullin/status/1308087136072003585?s=21 Who would buy that poo poo
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FlamingLiberal posted:https://twitter.com/benmullin/status/1308087136072003585?s=21 Tencent? Oh wait. Edit: gently caress, should gone with SoftBank.
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So you know how Tesla stocks have been skyrocketing to the point where even the dumbest auto manufacturers are coming around to the idea that EVs and other combustion-engine alternatives are legit? They've been scrambling to find partners and investments and etc. and along comes Nikola with their vision to use hydrogen and fuel cells and batteries for trucks and they got some good press and their stock value skyrocketed to like $80 and now the house of cards is crumbling. A short-seller posted this insane list of claims: https://hindenburgresearch.com/nikola/ Nikola rebutted, which created a new rebuttal, see thread here: https://twitter.com/Nikola_Truth/status/1305840405443940352 Among the AMAZING claims is that a video they made to quiet things down showing the truck was actually made by simply towing the truck uphill and then letting it roll downhill which is the funniest poo poo I have ever heard especially because some lawyer clearly got involved and instead of making the youtube video something like "Nikola 1 driving!" they made it "Nikola 1 in motion" because technically rolling downhill is "in motion". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAToxJ9CGb8 Today the founder resigned and the stock price has NOT reacted favorably to that development. The list of things they did makes it looks like a dumber less successful Theranos but for fuel cell trucks. Just spectacular lies that were easily disproved, running a cable up under a stage to make a truck look like it was "on", claiming they were using proprietary third-party batteries until the founder of that company resigned for using his expense account to hire prostitutes and it turns out the batteries never existed. Just bonkers. With the founded resigning there are rumors more are coming.
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Sep 21, 2020 19:56
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FlamingLiberal posted:https://twitter.com/benmullin/status/1308087136072003585?s=21 Eddie Lampert.
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Sep 21, 2020 20:46
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He’s got his plate full with digging Sears’ grave
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Sep 21, 2020 21:14
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FlamingLiberal posted:https://twitter.com/benmullin/status/1308087136072003585?s=21 Yes because that's what the people want, 5 minute clips of Anne Kendrick going on a adventure with a talking sex doll.
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Sep 21, 2020 21:19
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Silly Burrito posted:Eddie Lampert. Lampert, Lampert what a prick
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Sep 21, 2020 21:28
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Tom Tucker posted:So you know how Tesla stocks have been skyrocketing to the point where even the dumbest auto manufacturers are coming around to the idea that EVs and other combustion-engine alternatives are legit? They've been scrambling to find partners and investments and etc. and along comes Nikola with their vision to use hydrogen and fuel cells and batteries for trucks and they got some good press and their stock value skyrocketed to like $80 and now the house of cards is crumbling. Lol. Rolling a semi truck down a hill is going in the investor deception hall of fame.
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quote:Inexpensive hydrogen is fundamental to the success of Nikola’s business model. Trevor has claimed in a presentation to hundreds of people and in multiple interviews to have succeeded at cutting the cost of hydrogen by ~81% compared to peers and to already be producing hydrogen. Nikola has not produced hydrogen at this price or at any price as he later admitted when pressed by media. I cannot stop laughing.
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Sep 21, 2020 21:54
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BigDave posted:Yes because that's what the people want, 5 minute clips of Anne Kendrick going on a adventure with a talking sex doll. I do want that but not enough to sign up for yet another service.
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Sep 21, 2020 21:55
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Ariong posted:I cannot stop laughing.
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FlamingLiberal posted:https://twitter.com/benmullin/status/1308087136072003585?s=21 https://twitter.com/electrolemon/status/1308132559826505729?s=19
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Sep 21, 2020 22:01
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Tom Tucker posted:So you know how Tesla stocks have been skyrocketing to the point where even the dumbest auto manufacturers are coming around to the idea that EVs and other combustion-engine alternatives are legit? That isn't why Tesla stock is stupidly overvalued.
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FlamingLiberal posted:https://twitter.com/benmullin/status/1308087136072003585?s=21 Bury me with my golden arm
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Groovelord Neato posted:That isn't why Tesla stock is stupidly overvalued. Also other manufacturers had been making electric cars before Tesla was even founded.
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Schubalts posted:Also other manufacturers had been making reliable electric cars before Tesla was even founded. Telsa is form over function, tons of consumer reports have put many other EVs over Tesla. It's literally just "great tech savior" hype.
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Sep 22, 2020 02:57
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I don't know why someone wouldn't just buy a Leaf
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pentyne posted:Telsa is form over function, tons of consumer reports have put many other EVs over Tesla. It's literally just "great tech savior" hype. (To be fair dealerships are loving awful, but Tesla's operations are too much of a shitshow for anyone to honestly believe they're trying to do better)
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Pick posted:I don't know why someone wouldn't just buy a Leaf The batteries in Leaf's are not actively cooled and the first generation had tons of battery failures because of it in hot climates like Phoenix. The interior is also very plain for the price. Nissan is releasing the Ariya soon that doesn't cost substantially more than a Leaf SL e-plus but it is much better in every possible way.
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Ariong posted:I cannot stop laughing. The best part of the hydrogen claim is that if he actually could make hydrogen at 19% the current cost it wouldn’t be the “make a fuel cell truck” kind of innovation but the “make our entire economy run on hydrogen in the next decade” innovation.
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McPhearson posted:The batteries in Leaf's are not actively cooled and the first generation had tons of battery failures because of it in hot climates like Phoenix. The interior is also very plain for the price. Nissan is releasing the Ariya soon that doesn't cost substantially more than a Leaf SL e-plus but it is much better in every possible way. who the gently caress lives in Phoenix
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Pick posted:who the gently caress lives in Phoenix over one and a half million people, supposedly.
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Pick posted:I don't know why someone wouldn't just buy a Leaf Leafs (Leaves?) lose a huge amount of their value surprisingly quickly. From what I've read there's a glut of Leafs (Leaves?) with around 40k miles in the used car market. They're not bad cars, at least the later models. People just don't like them. A 5 year old Leaf is worth about 11% of it's original value. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a33935142/tesla-model-3-depreciate-electric-car/
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Krispy Wafer posted:Leafs (Leaves?) lose a huge amount of their value surprisingly quickly. From what I've read there's a glut of Leafs (Leaves?) with around 40k miles in the used car market. They're not bad cars, at least the later models. People just don't like them. A 5 year old Leaf is worth about 11% of it's original value. The whole battery can/does degrade rapidly thing hasn't helped. A Gen2 Volt has more range than some used Leafs I've seen.
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https://twitter.com/BobbyM62/status/1308381470835314689
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Sizzler is where you go as a kid and think that it's the fanciest poo poo ever. Then you grow up and hit up casual Italian places or gastrobistros and Sizzler looks like Golden Corral
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Sep 22, 2020 15:27
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Eh, I remember going to a Sizzler near my house as a kid and the only good thing was their ice cream bar (this was like the late 80s/early 90s).
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Goddamn I'd like to try a Ponderosa again since the 1970s
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Sep 22, 2020 16:12
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We didn't have Sizzler around here I only knew it via media as the trashy place the sleazebag would want to go to.
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It was fancy to a kid because it was gloomiest restaurant around. Just isolated table lamps and wall sconces with a salad bar off in the distance like a lighthouse, safely delivering you to it's chilled vegetables and cold chopped ham. I miss gloomy restaurants. Especially ones that served drinks in those big red or amber pebbled plastic cups.
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Krispy Wafer posted:It was fancy to a kid because it was gloomiest restaurant around. Just isolated table lamps and wall sconces with a salad bar off in the distance like a lighthouse, safely delivering you to it's chilled vegetables and cold chopped ham. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzMlaEdRT0Y
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Krispy Wafer posted:It was fancy to a kid because it was gloomiest restaurant around. Just isolated table lamps and wall sconces with a salad bar off in the distance like a lighthouse, safely delivering you to it's chilled vegetables and cold chopped ham. You nailed it, I love that aesthetic and it feels impossible to find, these days, and you just barely beat me to this
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Pastry of the Year posted:You nailed it, I love that aesthetic and it feels impossible to find, these days, and you Black Angus is like that. It's almost like eating alone in a lighted alcove of a cowboy cave. It's so dark in there you'll find yourself instinctively scared of the glowering phantoms in the other booths.
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Schubalts posted:Also other manufacturers had been making electric cars before Tesla was even founded. Not really. I mean, there were antiques, and a small number of cars that escaped the crusher after California’s ZEV mandate was withdrawn, and there were neighborhood electric vehicles that can’t go on a freeway, but for several years, Tesla was the only game in town. Platystemon has a new favorite as of 05:21 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Bern’s Steakhouse in Tampa is an older place and they have that vibe
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There's a chain called Hoss's in Pennsylvania and West Virginia that has exactly that vibe. And it has exactly the clientele you expect.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:There's a chain called Hoss's in Pennsylvania and West Virginia that has exactly that vibe. And it has exactly the clientele you expect. I used to gorge myself on their cinnamon bread with frosting. Clearly not the best idea though.
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