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Loving Africa Chaps posted:even Tom D is saying he's doing numbers similar to when he was world TT champ. These comments part of several statements coming within a hair's breadth of openly accusing Pogacar of being doped out the wazoo.
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Sep 21, 2020 14:27
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I do like all the mainstream sports media just posting all the "it was out of this world!" quotes like it's not a bunch of guys basically calling him a loving cheat lol
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Sep 21, 2020 14:49
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The last round of doping scandals did a ton of damage to the sport so it's understandable but yeah pretty funny to watch everyone just dance around the issue.
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Sep 21, 2020 15:03
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I read Pogi's time up the TT climb was like 2 seconds faster than the previous KOM. A great ride for sure, but not other worldly, he must be on good drugs type stuff.
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Sep 21, 2020 15:21
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Withnail posted:I read Pogi's time up the TT climb was like 2 seconds faster than the previous KOM. A great ride for sure, but not other worldly, he must be on good drugs type stuff. Bear in mind that the KOM times up any famous climb will a) be done fresh but also b) belong to people who absolutely do not have to worry about things like professional doping controls.
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Vando posted:Bear in mind that the KOM times up any famous climb will a) be done fresh but also b) belong to people who absolutely do not have to worry about things like professional doping controls. Aru had the previous fastest time.
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The board of the beautiful girls Pogacar 2020: 16:10 Fabio Aru 2017: 16:12 Chris Fr  me 2012: 16:20
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Sep 21, 2020 15:38
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Aru had the previous fastest time. What event?
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Sep 21, 2020 15:38
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I believe they tested for PEDs during the 2017 Tour de France (Fabio Aru set the previous record during stage 5). Edit: mr slow signing off
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Xabi posted:I believe they tested for PEDs during the 2017 Tour de France (Fabio Aru set the previous record during stage 5). premium Roglicposting
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Sep 21, 2020 15:40
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on the other hand if Roglic had won people would be kind of dancing around Jumbo as ex-Rabobank, so...
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Sep 21, 2020 15:47
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Yes it was a ridiculous performance but let's not forget Porte matched Dumoulin too
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To be clear I'm not particularly on the Pog is doping train, it just made me laugh how unfiltered Dumoulin's comments werequote:His ride in Saturday's time trial was his best result at a Grand Tour since the final time trial at the 2018 Tour, even if the abiding memory of his performance will be his bewilderment at Pogačar's ride – "I don't know how Pogačar climbed a minute faster than I did," he said later on Saturday afternoon.
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Sep 21, 2020 15:52
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Does seem odd Pogacar would be juice
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peanut- posted:To be clear I'm not particularly on the Pog is doping train, it just made me laugh how unfiltered Dumoulin's comments were Dutch is a pretty straight spoken language without much ambiguity so he comes across as being sure of it all in translation.
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peanut- posted:To be clear I'm not particularly on the Pog is doping train, it just made me laugh how unfiltered Dumoulin's comments were yeah same my response was more "don't base anything on KOMs" than any real feeling he's a cheat
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peanut- posted:To be clear I'm not particularly on the Pog is doping train, it just made me laugh how unfiltered Dumoulin's comments were Important to note that Big Tom didn't do a bike change, he was going up 15% gradients on his tri bars. He was also leading at the first two time checks.
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It's probably not worth the slander/libel risk for media outlets to start casting aspersions, no matter how much they may personally think it dodgy.
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Richie did 1825VAM including an approximately 20s time penalty from all the machinations of a bike change. Pogacar did 1865VAM. Not including a bike change, Pogacar would have been around 1905VAM and Richie around 1862VAM. Both these numbers are really, really, really good especially in the 40th minute of a time trial where presumably they were going right under threshold on the flatter section.
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Looking at the time splits ( https://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=247299&p=today&s=time-splits&time24c=1&sortby=time24&filter=Apply ), TD only put 7 seconds on the climb into a very very dead Nairo, and was 12th on that bit of the course.
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Strava segment: https://www.strava.com/segments/1539752
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goatface posted:It's probably not worth the slander/libel risk for media outlets to start casting aspersions, no matter how much they may personally think it dodgy. The media have no idea either way, it's just amusing to me that they print all the stuff like it's a straight up compliment
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Tom Pidcock to Ineos is a done deal Look forward to the young rider known for his explosive rides to win 3 stages of the baby giro being relegated to pacing Thomas up climbs
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Tom Pidcock to Ineos is a done deal Would he even provide a draft?
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I saw that this morning and my brain immediately went hog wild on the last name puns, but I guess I'll save those for liveposting
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There would probably be more "just asking questions" in the english language press if it were Froome or G who got blitzed off the mountain and not a Slovenian dude on a Dutch team. We'll never know either way and it's a weird season anyway since everyone is fresh. I'm sure some people took advantage of the lockdown and the relative lack of testing but whatever, it was a still good race and an exciting finish and hopefully that continues. Loving Africa Chaps posted:Tom Pidcock to Ineos is a done deal I just learned this morning that Porte is headed back to ineos, and now this? Why must they ruin everything. Gonna be sky train vs jumbo train but at least this year was fun!
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UAE are getting Mjaka for the Lampre train apparently
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They should just go full surf. No targets, no big trains, just absurd breakaways and long days out when the individuals feel up to it. They looked a lot better doing that this tour.
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I'm just a casual fan and pretty much only watch the TdF but the way the NBC guys were reacting in the studio ["historic," "one of the all time great rides," etc.] after the time trial sounded pretty much exactly like how they sounded 10-15 years ago when Armstrong or Contador would just wreck everybody by 3 minutes on some HC climb. Super don't know enough about the sport to accuse anyone of anything I just had a flashback to the bad old days.
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This Arkea raid might actually be something https://twitter.com/LVCKV/status/1308109539024211973?s=19
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qirex posted:I'm just a casual fan and pretty much only watch the TdF but the way the NBC guys were reacting in the studio ["historic," "one of the all time great rides," etc.] after the time trial sounded pretty much exactly like how they sounded 10-15 years ago when Armstrong or Contador would just wreck everybody by 3 minutes on some HC climb. Super don't know enough about the sport to accuse anyone of anything I just had a flashback to the bad old days. contador was a clean lad and an all time great
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Feels Villeneuve posted:contador was a clean lad and an all time great great at making a poo poo excuse and then claiming he was the victim in all of this 
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What are the rules on intravenous rehydration? It seems like it would be an open invitation to gently caress about.
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Skarsnik posted:great at making a poo poo excuse and then claiming he was the victim in all of this Railroaded by very biased British and English language media who couldn't stand a rider who attacked. Very sad.
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ban everyone but Tom, who is the only honest rider
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qirex posted:I'm just a casual fan and pretty much only watch the TdF but the way the NBC guys were reacting in the studio ["historic," "one of the all time great rides," etc.] after the time trial sounded pretty much exactly like how they sounded 10-15 years ago when Armstrong or Contador would just wreck everybody by 3 minutes on some HC climb. Super don't know enough about the sport to accuse anyone of anything I just had a flashback to the bad old days. *stares in Froome attack at the Giro*
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Railroaded by very biased British and English language media who couldn't stand a rider who attacked. Very sad. I realise you are not entirely serious but I still don't understand this thread giving him a pass just because he goes pew pew and does attacks Attacks he was able to do because he was doping
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TobinHatesYou posted:Would he even provide a draft? Do you? Everyone yells at me because I provide no draft. Suckers.
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Vando posted:*stares in Froome attack at the Giro* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfQM8OaJaLs&t=175s
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