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kirbysuperstar posted:Buddy, Alisa Bosconovich is like, mega gay. The Gay Agenda is installing chainsaws in your arms
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Victory Position posted:Geiger's power is that of clockwork because he is a character that takes patience to play. "Take your time," he would probably say. Somehow, the endless repetitive little character barks in Fantasy Strike are even more grating than usual. That's the radical genius of David Sirlin.
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Sep 23, 2020 03:32
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Mr. Locke posted:Sol and Ky don't have the vibe gay angst in denial. my greatest wish for strive's story mode is for ky to call sol dad once
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Sep 23, 2020 03:41
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Ky breaking down over realising Sol is his father-in-law was an extremely good joke.
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Sep 23, 2020 03:45
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The only fighting game story I ever tried to get into was Blaz Blue and that broke me utterly so I have to believe all of you are just making up stories about these characters.
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Sep 23, 2020 03:46
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Barudak posted:The only fighting game story I ever tried to get into was Blaz Blue and that broke me utterly so I have to believe all of you are just making up stories about these characters. guilty gears story is somehow less comprehensible than like the first half of blazblue's which is an amazing feat honestly
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Sep 23, 2020 03:47
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Chev posted:Eh, american or not, claims they're fixing the genre mostly make me think of how MVCI or Fantasy Strike were gonna fix the fighting game genre. Fantasy Strike will help fix the genre in the sense that Sirlin will eventually have to concede that it's not working and go do something else
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I will fix the fighting game genre. 1) One button moves on cooldown so everyone can do it 2) Reduce specials to three and supers to 1 to make it easier 3) make it 5v5 so everyone plays 4) Add leveling 6) Add a shop to buy gear mid match 7) Make the fight area bigger so you can surprise other people but not so big you can't just have all 5 people clump up 8) Since characters are simpler make way way more of them 9) Free to play, duh 10) Let people use mouse and keyboard to play, no fightstick needed 11) Change the perspective form x/y to a sort of offset x/y/z overhead orientation to better see the whole arena 12) Make lots of lore noone will ever read about the tensile strength of characters bust support garments
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i really do think there's room for a game sort of like SF2 but with some modern layers applied over it. inputs that arent nearly as hard but balanced around that. character gimmicks/meters and maybe even no supers (but i guess to sell copies you need some kind of cinematics, so stealing krushing blows wouldnt be a bad idea). i think basic games with good walkspeed and fun buttons and major character differences are cool, but i think fantasy strike is mad jank and too simplified. one really dumb thought ive had about making fighting games more accessible to idiots and making so good players can play bad players is some sort of custom wind condition mode that can be randomized and even weighted -- and each round has a completely different win condition. this would allow idiots to blame the roulette on their loss, but also teach players new fundamental skills on how to Land A Thing because it's now the win condition to land 5 shoryukens this round. it would also add a lot of replayability to players who dont feel like getting good bc each experience is new. it'd have tooltips for some of the lesser known mechanics like: land 5 counter hits counter hits are when you hit someone out of the startup animation of their move, here's a picture of a startup animation vs an active frame. then people only have to focus on learning one major mechanic at a time and kind of integrate it into their brain when they're playing vs other randos. euphemism fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Giving players a tangible reward even when they're losing helps keep people engaged, see: battle passes. Note that I am not saying fighting games should have paid battle passes, because they suck, but the principle is there. People want to feel like they're progressing in some measurable way. I don't think anybody would like randomly chosen win conditions or penalties. Also, you know, online functionality that isn't poo poo, between better netcode, better matchmaking, better lobbies, endless rematch, and reducing tedious stuff like menus between matches.
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Sep 23, 2020 04:01
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my favorite thing about fg lesbians is the insanely low-res poster i saw for carnival phantasm once that showed riesbyfe from melty blood hitting on sakura from fate/unlimited codes
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Endorph posted:yeah this is absolutely the vibe i get from every interaction they have does this somehow detract from Sin I'm not sure if a monkey paw curls or if some far-off thing is smiling with delight edit: what about ROBO-KY
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Sep 23, 2020 05:15
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SC Yoshi is a human ninja and Tekken Yoshi is a bizarre alien and I like to think they are completely unrelated and it's all a coincidence that they both lead the Manji clan.
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Sep 23, 2020 05:35
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Barudak posted:The Gay Agenda is installing chainsaws in your arms Fuckin yeah
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Sep 23, 2020 05:36
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yoshimitsu is the name of the sword, if you wield it you become the next yoshimitsu. the only way to get it is to kill the previous yoshimitsu
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Sep 23, 2020 05:42
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Barudak posted:The Gay Agenda is installing chainsaws in your arms This
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Barudak posted:The Gay Agenda is installing chainsaws in your arms ah. this is why people choose the Bosconovich lifestyle.
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Sep 23, 2020 06:35
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Wait back the gently caress up Was Ryu a bodyguard for Bruce loving Banner
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Gutter Owl posted:Somehow, the endless repetitive little character barks in Fantasy Strike are even more grating than usual. That's the radical genius of David Sirlin. YELLOW
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Sep 23, 2020 06:36
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euphemism posted:i really do think there's room for a game sort of like SF2 but with some modern layers applied over it. inputs that arent nearly as hard but balanced around that. character gimmicks/meters and maybe even no supers (but i guess to sell copies you need some kind of cinematics, so stealing krushing blows wouldnt be a bad idea). i think basic games with good walkspeed and fun buttons and major character differences are cool, but i think fantasy strike is mad jank and too simplified. FEXL, but that ship has sailed
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Xand_Man posted:Wait back the gently caress up look if you need science done it's better to try and put a danger shield in front of bruce so you don't end up with the opposite of science getting done
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Sep 23, 2020 06:55
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I feel like Im being whooshed because their name is Alisa Bosconovitch
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euphemism posted:i really do think there's room for a game sort of like SF2 but with some modern layers applied over it. inputs that arent nearly as hard but balanced around that. character gimmicks/meters and maybe even no supers (but i guess to sell copies you need some kind of cinematics, so stealing krushing blows wouldnt be a bad idea). i think basic games with good walkspeed and fun buttons and major character differences are cool, but i think fantasy strike is mad jank and too simplified.
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Late to the party but Gunbuster and Diebuster are the bad-rear end grandma of the mecha genre and are gay as hell euphemism posted:guilty gears story is somehow less comprehensible than like the first half of blazblue's which is an amazing feat honestly i do love that it literally all starts with 'Scientists invented magic'
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deets posted:did the thread decide they hated it 100 pages ago You know in your heart that the answer is obviously yes. Remember what thread this is.
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deets posted:This sounds like Granblue to me but I haven't been paying attention, did the thread decide they hated it 100 pages ago Granblue is cool but has traditional arcsys delay netcode and some basic lobby functionality inexplicably doesn't work properly so I feel like it never got rolling.
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Barudak posted:I feel like Im being whooshed because their name is Alisa Bosconovitch I'm sorry, I have chainsaws for arms, I can't fix this srorororosaroosaroarosaorisoroasriusoriuwso wo
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Sep 23, 2020 08:24
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:FEXL, but that ship has sailed The simple elegance of GOUGI
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there is no place for sf2-likes in a world where being unable to dash or run is unfathomable. in this respect bbtag may be closest to the mark because it gave up the pretense of walking being a valid movement option
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Koihime Enbu
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chumbler posted:You know in your heart that the answer is obviously yes. Remember what thread this is. Granblue is a fine idea held back by awful netcode and how utterly unfun was at/near launch to play either the Katalina or Ferry matchup as most of the cast (especially online.) I have no idea if either the Djeeta or Zooey patches helped with any of that because I'd stopped playing by then. Maybe if Granblue has the kind of post-launch light FighterZ got maybe it'll be a good game someday, but with the game being DOA competitively between the whole pandemic killing the in-person scene weeks after launch and how bad the game feels to play online for both netcode and character design reasons, it'd probably take a miracle for GBVS to keep getting support past Season 2 unless there's just nothing else upcoming on ArkSys' plate besides Strive. Mr. Locke fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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euphemism posted:i really do think there's room for a game sort of like SF2 but with some modern layers applied over it. inputs that arent nearly as hard but balanced around that. character gimmicks/meters and maybe even no supers (but i guess to sell copies you need some kind of cinematics, so stealing krushing blows wouldnt be a bad idea). i think basic games with good walkspeed and fun buttons and major character differences are cool, but i think fantasy strike is mad jank and too simplified. Speaking as an absolute scrub, i kinda enjoy fantasy strike because you can play the whole game without having to muscle memory qcf while you think about what you're trying to do and there's generally enough players around so that i can play against people in my skill range. I tried getting into tekken 7 but found i couldn't really get to the point where i felt like i was actually playing the game, just figuring out how to actually do the moves in a way that worked. Also david sirloin sucks.
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Flicking through the translation of the GBVS 2.01 notes and I see that Ladiva's Work the Crowd buffs the next Screwdriver or Leg Drop. Yes, good. Work more wrestling mechanics in.
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Sep 23, 2020 11:22
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Arzachel posted:Granblue is cool but has traditional arcsys delay netcode and some basic lobby functionality inexplicably doesn't work properly so I feel like it never got rolling. It also was released right before shutdown and killed all momentum the game had going. It's a super fun game that I wish to play again in person one day.
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Sep 23, 2020 11:57
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That fighting games put more emphasis than most genres on intrinsic motivation is a good thing, not a problem to be fixed.
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Given that they probably won't retrofit roll back into it, Granblue's only hope at this point is that the Japanese scene can keep it afloat long enough for it to recover when/if corona dies down substantially. Like, you got people like Jiyuna constantly like "Granblue's not dead!" and then 100 people comment "bruh what about everywhere outside of Japan given you loving live there" and he's just like "yeah true, but" Granblue is pretty loving dire outside of Japan right now
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Lord_Magmar posted:Pretty sure this is explicitly untrue of the Soul Calibur Yoshimitsu because he’s the ancestor of the Tekken Yoshimitsu. Yoshimitsu is a title the leader of the Manji Clan takes
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i feel like granblue will be fine. its a big ip and its still getting updates/characters and probably will for the foreseeable future. that can create new interest as soon as its possible to have physical tournaments again.
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Whatever even happen to that Kill la Kill game?
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If we're talking about outside of Japan, that's going to really depend on how much of an interest tomorrow's 2nd Season Pass really brings in terms of bringing back old players. New players are still going to face a big hurdle because the game is still full price and taking a plunge for $60 (or $90 with one pass, or $120 with both passes) is not reasonable. And it's not like "is this game dead?" questions and affirmative answers since summer aren't littered throughout basic google, reddit, or steam community page searches. If it can't bring back old players, then the game will be back to having either completely empty lobbies even during prime time (except maybe 10-20 SSS Rank players in the East Coast lobby only) and dead ranked if you're above mid-B or A rank, and very slow ranked even below that. You're back to Discord only and that's... not fine right now. And this is just the PS4 version; the PC version is a lot worse. It would be great if the game could limp to the coronovirus finish line, whenever that is, and push a pretty big revival
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