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UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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I'm just gonna get a carpenter to do two huge planks against the wall in my living room (along with some additional custom storage) and that'll be where my consoles go.

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Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Escobarbarian posted:

I can’t find this in the settings, are you using the iOS or Android app?

Android. Settings >> Posts >> Highlighting.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

UnfortunateSexFart posted:

I'm just gonna get a carpenter to do two huge planks against the wall in my living room (along with some additional custom storage) and that'll be where my consoles go.

I’m going to lay a plank across the top of my ps5 and put my tv on that.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Lumpy posted:

I’m going to lay a plank across the top of my ps5 and put my tv on that.

That might damage the plank.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Lumpy posted:

I’m going to lay a plank across the top of my ps5 and put my tv on that.

I'm obsessed with my Karlby and Alex Ikea gaming computer desk. It's big, strong and stylish. Unfortunately the Alex dressers are sold out everywhere, but you can make a TV stand with a Karlby and 4 Playstation 5s

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MechaSeinfeld
Jan 2, 2008


if you made that same setup but with a stainless steel top you'd make a giant skillet

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Rinkles posted:

As I understand it, though XDEV has a staff, it's more of an initiative than a studio. It's a label the European branch gives to their games that are developed by external devs but get direct support from Sony. It's probably got some Psygnosis blood in it, but I think it's inaccurate to call it "formerly Liverpool Studio, formerly Psygnosis".

But seriously, if people don't have the time to watch that Psygnosis vid and want a short breakdown ow how big a deal they were in the 90s and how much impact they had on the future of gaming, here:


They basically were almost all of the European development scene


- They co-created the first dev-kit software Psy-Q with SCEJ, which was chosen by Kutaragi and used by everyone under the sun to make games for PS1. So, without them there literally was no PS1.

- They released about a dozen of the best games on the PS1 in like a 4 year span

- They were almost so big at one point (and looking to get bigger) that despite being owned by Sony they started developing and releasing their titles like WipEout and DD for other platforms (N64/Sat), this was eventually shut the gently caress down by Sony as they came in hardcore fired the CEO and started to micromanage the whole operation. Otherwise they probably would've become bigger than Ubisoft or something.


Studios formerly under the Psygnosis development or publishing portfolio that split off WHERE ARE THEY NOW?:

- The Psygnosis ex-CEO went off and started Evolution, which was also gobbled up by Sony after he left. Evolution merged with Codemasters and is alive, if not well.

- Liverpool/XDEV - Liverpool shuttered after releasing tons of WipEout/F1 (most other IPs were scrapped) games up to 2012. XDEV still intimately associated with Sony first party.

- DMA Design made it out, became Rockstar North, now in charge of the biggest game series of all time.

- Reflections (Destruction Derby) became GT Interactive and made the Driver series. GT went to Infograms, Infograms sold to Atari, and then GT was sold to Ubisoft as a dev collab.

- Traveler's Tales hosed off to Sega to make bad sonic games before discovering a pot of gold with the Lego franchise.

- Bizarre Creations (F1, Project Gotham Racing, Metro Street Racer, Blur, Geometry Wars, etc), eventually bought by Activision and destroyed. Bizarre spin-off studio of note would be Playground Games (Forza Horizon).

- DICE was originally being published by Psygnosis for a bit, eventually made Battlefield and got bought by EA.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

Studios formerly under the Psygnosis development or publishing portfolio that split off WHERE ARE THEY NOW?:

- DMA Design made it out, became Rockstar North, now in charge of the biggest game series of all time.

https://www.filfre.net/2017/10/games-on-the-mersey-part-5-the-lemmings-effect/

https://www.filfre.net/2020/03/lemmings-2-the-tribes/

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
There's a lot of confusion going around on the Japanese internet about what will happen when you put a PS4 disc into a PS5. Have they been more clear about it in English?

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

I would recommend not placing your gigantic console in any kind of enclosed space.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Samurai Sanders posted:

There's a lot of confusion going around on the Japanese internet about what will happen when you put a PS4 disc into a PS5. Have they been more clear about it in English?

I'd imagine it'd be like most PS4 games; Installs to the local drive and uses the disk as a hardware authentication token.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Shammypants posted:

I'm obsessed with my Karlby and Alex Ikea gaming computer desk. It's big, strong and stylish. Unfortunately the Alex dressers are sold out everywhere, but you can make a TV stand with a Karlby and 4 Playstation 5s



Where's the chair from? Always like a good chair. The PS5 would probably like a chair.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

It could work like xbox 360 bc where the disc is authentication only and it has to download the game, I guess.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Yodobashi, one of the biggest electronics retailers in Japan, ended their first pre-order lottery. For the normal version it was 40x their initial stock and for the diskless version it was 90x (If I'm understanding how this reporting works properly).

I guess even in Japan, most people have decided they don't need optical discs.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
It’s very unclear what it means until we see what the initial stocks of the digital and disc versions were.

IGN’s referral link click-throughs registered something like 50x as many people buying the disc version as the digital version. Not scientific, but pretty compelling

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

There's probably a lot of reasons why Japanese customers would prefer digital more than America too. Better internet infrastructure in key cities and many titles not getting physical releases are a few of them. Maybe their secondary games market isn't as good and physical games don't receive the same kind of deals? Also the economic downturn could mean people are making choices they wouldn't otherwise make, including saving an extra 100 on the console.

Japanese consumers are quirky in a lot of ways relative to american gamers too. I remember seeing that something like 80% of Japanese customers use local coop play on Switch and it's <15% in America, largely due to being more spread out. Impossible to compare what it means without more context.

Shammypants fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Sep 23, 2020

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yodobashi, one of the biggest electronics retailers in Japan, ended their first pre-order lottery. For the normal version it was 40x their initial stock and for the diskless version it was 90x (If I'm understanding how this reporting works properly).

I guess even in Japan, most people have decided they don't need optical discs.

It's a lottery, so wouldn't the one with fewer chances to win be the more sought-after version?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Neddy Seagoon posted:

It's a lottery, so wouldn't the one with fewer chances to win be the more sought-after version?
I don't think people knew how many other people were seeking one version or the other while they were making their own decision. I figured that was just a reflection of the discless version being more in demand.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Shammypants posted:

There's probably a lot of reasons why Japanese customers would prefer digital more than America too. Better internet infrastructure in key cities and many titles not getting physical releases are a few of them. Maybe their secondary games market isn't as good and physical games don't receive the same kind of deals? Also the economic downturn could mean people are making choices they wouldn't otherwise make, including saving an extra 100 on the console.

Japanese consumers are quirky in a lot of ways relative to american gamers too. I remember seeing that something like 80% of Japanese customers use local coop play on Switch and it's <15% in America, largely due to being more spread out. Impossible to compare what it means without more context.

Pretty sure Japanese internet is famously bad.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Maybe somewhere, but every ISP I've had in Japan has been faster and more reliable than every ISP I've had in the US.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Samurai Sanders posted:

Maybe somewhere, but every ISP I've had in Japan has been faster and more reliable than every ISP I've had in the US.

Rural US internet is famously bad as well.

I get 200mbps down in Australia and were supposed to be bad. Although the government just announced they're going to fix it to be the way it was going to be before Rupert Murdoch sabotaged it. And xcloud is coming in 2021. Still no sign of Stadia.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

UnfortunateSexFart posted:

Rural US internet is famously bad as well.

I get 200mbps down in Australia and were supposed to be bad. Although the government just announced they're going to fix it to be the way it was going to be before Rupert Murdoch sabotaged it. And xcloud is coming in 2021. Still no sign of Stadia.

The problem is a lot of people got hosed with cost-cutting ideas like Fibre to the Node. The idea was you stay on regular copper out to a substation that then goes onto a fibre cable from there. The problem in practice is that unless you live reasonably close to the Node (<1km-ish) you're not getting better than ADSL speeds because of physics. The fix is better ideas like Fibre to the Curb, where you get a box in your house that connects and powers a device out in the street to convert from your copper network at home into the fibre cable running down the street.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



Samurai Sanders posted:

There's a lot of confusion going around on the Japanese internet about what will happen when you put a PS4 disc into a PS5. Have they been more clear about it in English?

Neddy Seagoon posted:

I'd imagine it'd be like most PS4 games; Installs to the local drive and uses the disk as a hardware authentication token.

Yes, it should work like this. You already download patches automatically on PS4 when you put a disc in so chances are that you'll just install and patch? Or straight up activate a download that needs the disc as auth measure. I'm really interested on this too since my PS4 backlog is so big that I'll need to catch up on a PS5 anyways.

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

Quantum of Phallus posted:

I live in the socialist Republic of Ireland :allears:

I really wish I lived there right now. England is the worst country. Goodness I am not a fan of this dreary Terfisland.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 56 minutes!

VideoGames posted:

I really wish I lived there right now. England is the worst country. Goodness I am not a fan of this dreary Terfisland.

Tell Boris to sort this brexit poo poo out :argh:

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Tell Boris to sort this brexit poo poo out :argh:

As if that cretinous clown of racism would listen to me!

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yodobashi, one of the biggest electronics retailers in Japan, ended their first pre-order lottery. For the normal version it was 40x their initial stock and for the diskless version it was 90x (If I'm understanding how this reporting works properly).

I guess even in Japan, most people have decided they don't need optical discs.

If there are 3 times as many disk versions being produced as diskless, then that would mean 120 - 90 which seems about right.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



I'm posting in two play stations at once!

BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Sep 23, 2020

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Amazon hosed up the PS5 listing for Amazon US, so it's not charting anywhere, but a quick glance at every other region's yearly sales categories shows the PS5 outcharting the Xbox in both categories.

Seems like Xbox has some stock woes to contend with, plus the usual dynamics. Makes me a little bit hopeful that those next waves of PS5s will be substantial amounts.

Shirkelton fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Sep 23, 2020

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



I am so loving excited to play Demon's Souls...if I'm not killed, broke, homeless, or driven insane sometime over the next 6 weeks.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Got some bad news for you, bud. Insane people never realize they are already insane...

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

I am so loving excited to play Demon's Souls...if I'm not killed, broke, homeless, or driven insane sometime over the next 6 weeks.

It's going to be very good.

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.
Playstation five eh, im waiting for the ps6 "pis" for short.

Can we post about ps4 games in here too, is this thread BC?

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Neddy Seagoon posted:

The problem is a lot of people got hosed with cost-cutting ideas like Fibre to the Node. The idea was you stay on regular copper out to a substation that then goes onto a fibre cable from there. The problem in practice is that unless you live reasonably close to the Node (<1km-ish) you're not getting better than ADSL speeds because of physics. The fix is better ideas like Fibre to the Curb, where you get a box in your house that connects and powers a device out in the street to convert from your copper network at home into the fibre cable running down the street.

Yeah this video did a good job of explaining it all


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuxLmrN0YPM

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Vikar Jerome posted:

Playstation five eh, im waiting for the ps6 "pis" for short.

Can we post about ps4 games in here too, is this thread BC?

Tis a good question, with the upcoming PS4 games playing on PS5. The lines are blurred, in a good way!

On the DualSense topic, I read that some think you'll need a DualShock4 to play PS4 games on PS5. Other than ones with a PS5 update I mean. Is that true? If it was, one positive side effect might be the DualShock 4 staying in production for years longer. Since now if you play a PS3 game you may have a dead battery, and the controllers are like relics from the forgotten age.

I also wonder how DualSense will fare as a PC controller. If steam will add support for it right away, etc.

Storm One
Jan 12, 2011

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

It could work like xbox 360 bc where the disc is authentication only and it has to download the game, I guess.

This would loving suck. By 360 BC, do you mean 360 > OG XBox or Xbone > 360?

Kim Jaym Il
Dec 14, 2010

what? i
don't
have
fucking
ears

I've been trying to stay positive and hope that they have a solution for storage this generation, but I'm becoming a little more worried as we get closer to release.

Some install sizes have been revealed, and it's looking like we're getting 50GB-ish plus for a AAA game. The 825GB SSD will get chewed up pretty quickly at that rate! (Rest In Peace COD players)

My solution to that for the PS4 was a relatively cheap 4TB HDD, but that is of course not an option here as a HDD won't be fast enough to run games, and a 4TB external SSD would cost about as much as the system.

I'm still looking forward to the new system but not looking forward to the potential game juggling.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
Hi I am posting in the ps4 thread but I do not have a ps5 is this illegal??

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 56 minutes!
nobody has a pS5

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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Storm One posted:

This would loving suck. By 360 BC, do you mean 360 > OG XBox or Xbone > 360?

I mean 360 games on the Xbone.

I'm not sure how either next gen console will handle installing bc games, having to do full redownloads isn't unlikely.

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