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Kim Jaym Il posted:I've been trying to stay positive and hope that they have a solution for storage this generation, but I'm becoming a little more worried as we get closer to release. Part of the hopes of the SSD being mandatory is that games can cut down on all the unecessary data duplication they do in order to be fast on platter discs 0 like uncompressed audio (which also might be changed by the new audio processor). I hope this is the case.
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VideoGames posted:Part of the hopes of the SSD being mandatory is that games can cut down on all the unecessary data duplication they do in order to be fast on platter discs 0 like uncompressed audio (which also might be changed by the new audio processor). The Spider-Man Remaster is ten or fifteen gigs smaller than the PS4 game.
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Sep 23, 2020 12:00
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Shirkelton posted:The Spider-Man Remaster is ten or fifteen gigs smaller than the PS4 game.  my hopes are being realised!
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Sep 23, 2020 12:03
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Practically speaking I only need the thing to be able to hold 7-8 games on it at the most. Ive never had space issues with my 500gb ps4, I think the ps5 hd has more than enough space
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VideoGames posted:Part of the hopes of the SSD being mandatory is that games can cut down on all the unecessary data duplication they do in order to be fast on platter discs The savings from lack of duplication will be mostly eaten and then some by higher quality assets if games target 4K. Juggling is not so bad compared to re-downloading or installing from optical; if these consoles let you conveniently transfer game packages to an external HDD and back again then it's a solved problem as far as I'm concerned, even USB2 speeds are an order of magnitude faster than downloading. And the slowness in the PS4 installs was not from downloading only, but also defragmenting the game package in the HDD, that is totally gone with the PS5. I'd place more hope in the SSbox's smaller RAM pool restraining developers' urge to baloon their assets than the SSD. AAA titles are all but guaranteed to have 4K quality assets for XSX and PS5 and reduced quality versions for the SS but hopefully lower budget games might be forced to cater for the series S and leave it at that.
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Sep 23, 2020 12:46
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Kim Jaym Il posted:I've been trying to stay positive and hope that they have a solution for storage this generation, but I'm becoming a little more worried as we get closer to release. Reminder that you can use an external hard drive to keep/play ps4 games off on and a regular external hard drive can keep ps5 games in archive mode. They just have to be moved back to internal storage to run.
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Ineffiable posted:a regular external hard drive can keep ps5 games in archive mode. They just have to be moved back to internal storage to run. Sweet, is this actually confirmed then? No internet checks required, just move back and forth?
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Sep 23, 2020 13:19
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I'm looking forward to buying the Sony Playstation 5 in 2022.
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Shirkelton posted:The Spider-Man Remaster is ten or fifteen gigs smaller than the PS4 game. It's a weird case though. Yes, it's smaller if you do the obvious calculation, but it's probably sharing assets with Miles Morales because (as I understand it) you can't install it separately, so you can't just subtract the lone install of Miles Morales to get the size of the original game with the DLCs. So I don't think it's a good test case.
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It is a separate download code, why do you think you can't install it independently?
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Sep 23, 2020 14:19
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Shirkelton posted:It is a separate download code, why do you think you can't install it independently? I swear I read that somewhere! I'm probably just wrong then!
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Sep 23, 2020 14:24
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You could be right, I just have seen that it's a downloadable code included, so I don't know why it would be the same SKU.
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Do we know yet if the 825 GB means 825 GB usable storage space? If not it seems kind of an odd size for a drive.
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Sep 23, 2020 15:20
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Nail Rat you heathen I posted this on the discord last week. 12 channel，512Gib Nand Chip / channel 512 x 12 = 6,144 Gib = 768 GiB = 824.633720832 GB = 825GB
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Rad Valtar posted:Nail Rat you heathen I posted this on the discord last week. the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for anyone playing COD
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Sorry this post better explained it with more than just numbers. Sony's SSD has twelve lanes and uses twelve flash chips (one per lane) if I recall correctly. Normally SSDs use 16 chips with fewer lanes. Each chip that Sony is using is presumably 512 Gib (Gibi bits, not giga bits) as is presumably Microsoft. Gibi is a multiple of 1024 whereas Giga is a multiple of 1000. Thus you have 1024 bits × 1024 kilobits × 1024 megabits in a gigabit. Multiply that by 512 Gigabits × 12 chips and then divide by 8 to convert from bits to bytes. This gives you a not unusual 768 GiB (gibi bytes) but ~825 GB (giga bytes).
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So to answer Nail Rat's question, I would assume based on those calculations that 825GB does not mean 825GB of usable storage space, if the OS and other required stuff is put onto that same storage.
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In PS+ can you register a new title of the month they put in there without actually downloading it? My understanding is you have it and can redownload forever as long as you are a subscriber but it is only available for initial download to the end of the month. Or is it automatic if you are a subscriber?
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You claim them each month to put in your library and can then download them when you please as long as you are subscribed.
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Sep 23, 2020 15:42
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John Wick of Dogs posted:In PS+ can you register a new title of the month they put in there without actually downloading it? Yes. You just go into the store to get the licence buy clicking add to library on the PS+ game page. You then have access to it whenever you have an active PS+ subscription. No need to actually download it.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:In PS+ can you register a new title of the month they put in there without actually downloading it? Yes, just "purchase" the free game on PSN store (either on PS4 or on your computer web browser) and you don't have to download it. The game will be available on your account as long as you're an active subscriber, and will be available again if your subscription lapses and then you reactivate.
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I'm assuming there's still no word of controller battery life.
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CottonWolf posted:Yes. You just go into the store to get the licence buy clicking add to library on the PS+ game page. You then have access to it whenever you have an active PS+ subscription. No need to actually download it. Ah good, thanks
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Rad Valtar posted:Nail Rat you heathen I posted this on the discord last week. Whoops, I'm sorry, I missed that there. So I'm guessing usable is gonna be more like 700 GB then.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I'm assuming there's still no word of controller battery life. Not as of yet.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I'm assuming there's still no word of controller battery life. gonna have to wait for real public use for that kinda info
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Also it will invariably be a lot less than reviewers report, and it will be a lot less than *that* a month or so later.
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I think I’m gonna just get all the accessories at launch and a second controller in the hopes that I end up like all the goons who’s bought in at PS4 launch and are still rolling with their launch model on their first controller. Something about seeing that low battery warning and just swapping paddles seems really luxurious to me, an adult with very specific values.
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Question. The TV I’m getting supports HDMI 2.1 and VRR and all that poo poo and I guess so does the PS5. Should I go ahead and pick up a corresponding cable? If so, what’s a good brand or whatever, or does it even matter and I should just find one for cheap?
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I’m gonna play my ps5 on my 7 year old non-HDR 1080p tv unless it breaks and then I’m gonna buy whatever 55” tv is cheapest because that’s what fits in the space on my tv stand.
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man nurse posted:Question. The TV I’m getting supports HDMI 2.1 and VRR and all that poo poo and I guess so does the PS5. Should I go ahead and pick up a corresponding cable? If so, what’s a good brand or whatever, or does it even matter and I should just find one for cheap? It doesn't really matter, just hit monoprice and buy whatever it says is HDMI 2.1 capable
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So is Sony just done selling PlayStation 5s? No more systems are going to be made, just that first pre-order batch last week was it? Yes, I am being hyperbolic here, just frustrated that Sony continues to royally gently caress up getting more systems available for pre-order. I wish they would stop making announcements about this that they cant confirm are going to be true or not.
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I said come in! posted:So is Sony just done selling PlayStation 5s? No more systems are going to be made, just that first pre-order batch last week was it? https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1307364082341740544 
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This is what i'm referring to, its been 5 days since that tweet and there hasnt been a single new batch of pre-orders.
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haveblue posted:It doesn't really matter, just hit monoprice and buy whatever it says is HDMI 2.1 capable Yeah this or Cable Matters ones from Amazon.
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man nurse posted:Question. The TV I’m getting supports HDMI 2.1 and VRR and all that poo poo and I guess so does the PS5. Should I go ahead and pick up a corresponding cable? If so, what’s a good brand or whatever, or does it even matter and I should just find one for cheap? Good read: quote:When You Do NOT Need a New HDMI Cable, Summarized:
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man nurse posted:Question. The TV I’m getting supports HDMI 2.1 and VRR and all that poo poo and I guess so does the PS5. Should I go ahead and pick up a corresponding cable? If so, what’s a good brand or whatever, or does it even matter and I should just find one for cheap? Unfortunately, different cables are rated for different bandwidths, and not all manufacturers list the rated bandwidth. Since your TV and the PS5 will both support 4K at 120hz, you are going to want a cable rated for HDMI 2.1's full 48Gbps bandwidth. There is a chance your old cables might not be able to handle this bandwidth. Luckily, new cables are cheap and most listings will state their bandwidth right in the listing title. You don't need to worry about name brands or whatever. Just get whatever cable is cheap and is rated for 48Gbps. FWIW, the article posted above was from before HDMI 2.1 became a thing. There now exists a third category of cable rating for 48Gbps cables (previously there only existed standard and high speed cables, which high speed being rated for 10Gbps). il serpente cosmico fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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il serpente cosmico posted:Unfortunately, different cables are rated for different bandwidths, and not all manufacturers list the rated bandwidth. Since your TV and the PS5 will both support 4K at 120hz, you are going to want a cable rated for HDMI 2.1's full 48Gbps bandwidth. Yeah this. The old cable might work and then again it might not. It’s cheap enough to just get a new one and not have to worry about it.
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man nurse posted:Question. The TV I’m getting supports HDMI 2.1 and VRR and all that poo poo and I guess so does the PS5. Should I go ahead and pick up a corresponding cable? If so, what’s a good brand or whatever, or does it even matter and I should just find one for cheap? Wait surely the console comes with one doesn't it?
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Wait surely the console comes with one doesn't it? It will
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