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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Nocheez posted:

My brother had Tombstone (which was 2 discs) and it had all kinds of extras and deleted scenes. I was beyond pissed when I plunked down $25 for the DVD when it first came out (in 1998/1999 dollars, mind you) and it was just the movie - no extras, nothing. They had the files! All they had to do was put them on the disc, dammit!

Wait, people actually watch DVD extras?

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Sweevo posted:

Wait, people actually watch DVD extras?

It was more of a fall asleep with the DVD running and subconsciously absorb the extras and commentary tracks.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Sweevo posted:

Wait, people actually watch DVD extras?

When I was young with lots more free time I did.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Humphreys posted:

Criterion are known for being some of the best versions of a movie on LD. I have 1 and it's wasted on Chasing Amy. Except the Taxi Driver I have in the post but I can't judge that yet.

It is indeed the Criterion version. I haven't watched it in a long time, so maybe it's time to try the commentary track.

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
How badly are LDs affected by bit rot?

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
So, I mentioned earlier that I was told there were Laserdiscs at a local flea market.
Turns out, it wasn’t LD but CED disks.

“The Capacitance Electronic Disc (CED) is an analog video disc playback system developed by RCA, in which video and audio could be played back on a TV set using a special needle and high-density groove system similar to phonograph records.”

Thy were an analog system. Movies on vinyl records.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc


RCA hosed around and sat on this format for 17 years before releasing it.
It was obsolete before it even launched.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Johnny Aztec posted:

So, I mentioned earlier that I was told there were Laserdiscs at a local flea market.
Turns out, it wasn’t LD but CED disks.

“The Capacitance Electronic Disc (CED) is an analog video disc playback system developed by RCA, in which video and audio could be played back on a TV set using a special needle and high-density groove system similar to phonograph records.”

Thy were an analog system. Movies on vinyl records.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc


RCA hosed around and sat on this format for 17 years before releasing it.
It was obsolete before it even launched.
Technology Connections 5 part series on CED:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnpX8d8zRIA

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Laserdisc is analogue too :eng101:

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Pretty good posted:

Laserdisc is analogue too :eng101:

I said analog but I meant “ uses a physical connection”.
As opposed to the Laserdiscs optical laser.

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

Pretty good posted:

Laserdisc is analogue too :eng101:

with digital audio! :eng101:

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Johnny Aztec posted:

So, I mentioned earlier that I was told there were Laserdiscs at a local flea market.
Turns out, it wasn’t LD but CED disks.

“The Capacitance Electronic Disc (CED) is an analog video disc playback system developed by RCA, in which video and audio could be played back on a TV set using a special needle and high-density groove system similar to phonograph records.”

Thy were an analog system. Movies on vinyl records.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc


RCA hosed around and sat on this format for 17 years before releasing it.
It was obsolete before it even launched.

I bought a CED version of The Wrath of Khan because it's awesome having cover art in some biggish format like that. I knew exactly what it was with zero intent of ever attempting to watch it.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Explosionface posted:

I bought a CED version of The Wrath of Khan because it's awesome having cover art in some biggish format like that. I knew exactly what it was with zero intent of ever attempting to watch it.

A local "trendy" pizza place has the wall opposite the bathrooms plastered,floor to ceiling, with CEDs.

spookygonk
Apr 3, 2005
Does not give a damn

I bought my Laserdisc player simply for this box set:



Though I did end up getting the box set of Natural Born Killers as it had a Nine Inch Nails video on it (Perfect Drug, I think).

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
Yeah for a stupidly long time the laserdisc was the best home version of Star Wars without the Special Edition crap. Might still be, I dunno, I watch fan edited :filez: like 4K77.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Sweevo posted:

Wait, people actually watch DVD extras?

When I was younger, had more free time, and there was less content to consume, I would watch all the extras for my favorite movies.

Anonymouse Mook
Jul 12, 2006

Showing Vettel the way since 1979

Imagined posted:

How badly are LDs affected by bit rot?

It depends who manufactured them. The early Discovision stuff is bad for rot, and some plants like DADC were notorious for making rotters. I think most of the Pioneer made discs are fine. I have plenty with no issues, even ones from the mid 80s. Out of about 400 discs, I think maybe 5 are bad and have maybe another 20 where I can pick up some light visual noise

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Moo the cow posted:

with digital audio! :eng101:

Not necessarily, plenty of laserdiscs had analog soundtracks.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


CEDs are tough to keep in good shape. You have to make drat sure to keep them vertical, and I dont think the prior owners of mine did. Otherwise, if you stack them horizontally, they're so loving heavy that the thin caddy walls will give way and scuff the discs.

Most, if not all of my discs are afflicted to some extent.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

SLOSifl posted:

Technology Connections 5 part series on CED:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnpX8d8zRIA

I remember a long-closed video store in Lincoln, California that had a big painted sign explaining how they rented out every format in the world. It must've been painted in the early-80s because it listed CED and I never knew what that meant until I stumbled across a website about the drat things.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

Pham Nuwen posted:

Song of the South
:vince:

Isn’t that the last/best available version?

Edit•you win. https://www.ebay.com/itm/293682825173

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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Remulak posted:

:vince:

Isn’t that the last/best available version?

Edit•you win. https://www.ebay.com/itm/293682825173

Holy gently caress, I'm pretty sure I have two copies of that. Who's buying these? Obsessive Disney collectors? Racists? The Venn diagram intersection of those two?

I'm seeing that these sell for $200 or so pretty regularly, now I have to decide if I want to keep it because Disney wants to memory-hole it so badly, or if I should sell it because I don't want to be "that guy with the racist movies on Laserdisc", or what.

Scarodactyl
Oct 22, 2015


Sell it, the movie isn't good anyway.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Pham Nuwen posted:

Holy gently caress, I'm pretty sure I have two copies of that. Who's buying these? Obsessive Disney collectors? Racists? The Venn diagram intersection of those two?

I'm seeing that these sell for $200 or so pretty regularly, now I have to decide if I want to keep it because Disney wants to memory-hole it so badly, or if I should sell it because I don't want to be "that guy with the racist movies on Laserdisc", or what.

keep it and burn DVDs of it for people at $100 a pop

Slimy Hog
Apr 22, 2008

Pham Nuwen posted:

Holy gently caress, I'm pretty sure I have two copies of that. Who's buying these? Obsessive Disney collectors? Racists? The Venn diagram intersection of those two?

I'm seeing that these sell for $200 or so pretty regularly, now I have to decide if I want to keep it because Disney wants to memory-hole it so badly, or if I should sell it because I don't want to be "that guy with the racist movies on Laserdisc", or what.

I'd not worry too much about being "that guy with the racist movies on Laserdisc" if I were you. I'd be willing to bet that most people who know that Song of The South is racist also know that having a physical copy of it is interesting.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Turns out I have one copy of Song of the South, and two of Bambi. Still don't know why a person would want two copies of Bambi.



Eliminates the "keep one, sell one" option.

edit: it definitely looks like there are UFOs in the sky on that cover, those are some funky clouds.

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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
.

NVM everyone else said something before I refreshed.

Wasabi the J has a new favorite as of 19:24 on Sep 23, 2020

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


It's really odd, but I was sold duplicate CEDs as well

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Pham Nuwen posted:

Holy gently caress, I'm pretty sure I have two copies of that. Who's buying these? Obsessive Disney collectors? Racists? The Venn diagram intersection of those two?

I'm seeing that these sell for $200 or so pretty regularly, now I have to decide if I want to keep it because Disney wants to memory-hole it so badly, or if I should sell it because I don't want to be "that guy with the racist movies on Laserdisc", or what.

I bought my copy back in 1991 or so for $90.

I also paid that for the Criterion Blade Runner.

UnkleBoB
Jul 24, 2000

Beginner's Version, Copyright,
1991 - Please Copy and Distribute
Yea, the Criterion LDs can have some great extras. Look at what is included on my Bram Stoker's Dracula:

quote:

Exclusive new digital film-to-tape transfer, presented entirely in the full-feature CAV standard play format
New Dolby Surround mix transferred directly from Dolby 6-track containing about 40 sound effects which are not present on the normal Dolby Surround mix
Audio commentaries by director Francis Ford Coppola, special effects supervisor Roman Coppola and make-up supervisor Greg Cannom on analog track 2
Seperate presentation of complete music and Oscar-winning effects track on analog track 1
The original teaser trailer
A look at the historic Dracula legend
Artistic influence: Reproductions of paintings and excerpts from films the makers of Bram Stoker's Dracula drew upon the craft the unique visual style of their film
An article of Dracula's scene-by-scene analysis appeared in the Cinefex magazine revised and edited for LaserDisc (over 200 stills)
Nearly 500 storyboards
Editing Dracula: A look at the editing of the film with videotapes presenting dailies and storyboards for the film with a narrator describing each scene; Also included: Interactive "hands on" editing workshop that allows you to put together your own scene
Behind-the-scenes: A 9-minute video documentary on the production of Dracula

I buy promotional LDs off eBay and have had some bad luck with disc rot. Opening sealed Chevrolet dealership discs and having them skip and stutter a lot toward the end of sides, for example. But overall, I don't mind that and I kind of like the glitched experience anyway.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Pham Nuwen posted:

edit: it definitely looks like there are UFOs in the sky on that cover, those are some funky clouds.

All clouds are UFOs until someone tells you about clouds.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


3D Megadoodoo posted:

All clouds are UFOs until someone tells you about clouds.
I used to think this. When I was a kid my uncle was abducted by aliens. His name was Rich and he married my mom’s sister Janet. I was at their wedding in 1986 but I was only a few years old so I don’t remember the ceremony very well. He was my first aunt that got married to. When he was abducted I was in 3rd grade and I remember when I got home from school, after I fed my hamster Steven, that my mom told me that my uncle Rich was abducted. I always fed him when I got home from school, which in retrospect was something my mom asked me to do so that I could build up a habit. At the time it was presented in a way that implied I simply had to do that in order to be allowed to go adopt a hamster (which turned out to be Steven). Later they found my uncle Rich in a lake. I guess they dropped him there after the abduction, anyway your cloud remark reminded me of some of the thoughts I had when they found him.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

SLOSifl posted:

I used to think this. When I was a kid my uncle was abducted by aliens. His name was Rich and he married my mom’s sister Janet. I was at their wedding in 1986 but I was only a few years old so I don’t remember the ceremony very well. He was my first aunt that got married to. When he was abducted I was in 3rd grade and I remember when I got home from school, after I fed my hamster Steven, that my mom told me that my uncle Rich was abducted. I always fed him when I got home from school, which in retrospect was something my mom asked me to do so that I could build up a habit. At the time it was presented in a way that implied I simply had to do that in order to be allowed to go adopt a hamster (which turned out to be Steven). Later they found my uncle Rich in a lake. I guess they dropped him there after the abduction, anyway your cloud remark reminded me of some of the thoughts I had when they found him.

And then your sister did that thing with her hair, which made her enjoy the time in the lake?

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


3D Megadoodoo posted:

And then your sister did that thing with her hair, which made her enjoy the time in the lake?
Sorry you might be thinking of someone else. My sister was stillborn, so she never had hair that I can remember. My neighbor Brandon had a sexual relationship with his sister but it was at a pond. He doesn’t have an account here (yet!).

edit: went next door and he said no too, sorry man

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


SLOSifl posted:

I used to think this. When I was a kid my uncle was abducted by aliens. His name was Rich and he married my mom’s sister Janet. I was at their wedding in 1986 but I was only a few years old so I don’t remember the ceremony very well. He was my first aunt that got married to. When he was abducted I was in 3rd grade and I remember when I got home from school, after I fed my hamster Steven, that my mom told me that my uncle Rich was abducted. I always fed him when I got home from school, which in retrospect was something my mom asked me to do so that I could build up a habit. At the time it was presented in a way that implied I simply had to do that in order to be allowed to go adopt a hamster (which turned out to be Steven). Later they found my uncle Rich in a lake. I guess they dropped him there after the abduction, anyway your cloud remark reminded me of some of the thoughts I had when they found him.

But did they fall in love with life and drink it from the fountain that is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


spookygonk posted:

I bought my Laserdisc player simply for this box set:



Though I did end up getting the box set of Natural Born Killers as it had a Nine Inch Nails video on it (Perfect Drug, I think).

It's for Burn:



And lol at this quote:




Obviously my order arrived today and they are all in very good condition! Pity about the poo poo cover art on Judge Dredd



Gotta love that trope of 'action guy with gun pointing lower rightl. Who woulda thought so many were left handed?

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Johnny Aztec posted:

So, I mentioned earlier that I was told there were Laserdiscs at a local flea market.
Turns out, it wasn’t LD but CED disks.

“The Capacitance Electronic Disc (CED) is an analog video disc playback system developed by RCA, in which video and audio could be played back on a TV set using a special needle and high-density groove system similar to phonograph records.”

Thy were an analog system. Movies on vinyl records.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc


RCA hosed around and sat on this format for 17 years before releasing it.
It was obsolete before it even launched.

Those were hilariously stupid. My friends folks bought a player when they came out thinking that it was the next big thing. If they ever got in the sun, they warped and became unplayable. You also had to flip them like a record. Long movies would be multi disc.
When I was a kid, the library had a big selection of them as if they were going to become a big deal. Then they didn't become a big deal and no-one had a player anyway.
Then you get Laser Disc players that no-one bought except for schools.
Then you had the VCD format that was pathetic. MediaPlay used to sell movies in VCD format. I bought one once. It was terrible quality and it took 2 discs to fit a movie.
Then finally DVD.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Also there very much is disc-rot on LDs. A few of the brains-trusts on LDDB and LDA are looking into correlations between releases people find rot and which pressing plants they came from.

EDIT: The Lion King I got must have been from a collector as all the discs are still sealed up inside the main box. Then I went through the rest of the paperwork internally and musta been someone in the industry as this pre-release 'ticket' was inside a pamphlet :

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Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit


So, this isn't my picture, but I have a beta player of this model. It's branded Zenith, but the internet tells me they are all just rebranded Sony models.
That there is a 1979 model, in all it's glory.

Maybe I'll get around to it before the year is out and get it cleaned up, and plugged in. I got a big box full of recorded Beta tapes.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Humphreys posted:

It's for Burn:



And lol at this quote:




Obviously my order arrived today and they are all in very good condition! Pity about the poo poo cover art on Judge Dredd



Gotta love that trope of 'action guy with gun pointing lower rightl. Who woulda thought so many were left handed?

Replace the BGM folder of VtM: Bloodlines with the soundtrack of Lost Highway.

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Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

spookygonk posted:

I bought my Laserdisc player simply for this box set:



Though I did end up getting the box set of Natural Born Killers as it had a Nine Inch Nails video on it (Perfect Drug, I think).

It took me a couple of years to get that at a decent price.

Here's a few of my LDs:

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