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He was a true master. Very few conspiracy people have a distinctive or memorable style. There’s a touch that’s recognizably him even in his commercial work:
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A to Z. That's AstraZeneca. And the Sesame Street characters because we're all puppets. And Elmo is holding ABC because it means Announce Betacoronavirus. Genius, Dees, genius. Just needs some Stars of David in the bus lights.
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:never forget this OG: I guarantee he finished that one, looked it over, decided it was too subtle, and then added the MANDATORY to it.
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Dees really is the visual representation of qanon IMO, like his work captures the absolute brain anarchy that must be happening. From the content right down to the weird sort of hyper vivid yet quasi realistic style.
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He legit thought jews were sneaking into his house to rearrange his shoe pile while he was out. In retrospect, I’m really glad he never shot up a pediatrician’s office or a synagogue because he was probably real loving close.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:He was a true master. Very few conspiracy people have a distinctive or memorable style. There’s a touch that’s recognizably him even in his commercial work: That big bird really has a sort of come hither vibe
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:never forget this OG: What a huge baby. The one in the picture is pretty big too.
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:never forget this OG: Hot drat this owns, imagine if cops spent their time giving medicine to little Braedynne and MacLaiykyin while cuffing their dumb moms for neglect instead of magdumping into every black boy with a nerf gun
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Dees legit had schizophrenia that was exacerbated by him going off his meds. He ended up dying from cancer because his mental illness made him reject help so I can't be too hard on him in particular. He was so sick I just felt bad for the guy.
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indiscriminately posted:People who believe conspiracy theories have never had the experience of being supremely unimpressed after meeting a rich/powerful person. Maybe this is a tautology though as they all seem to be very impressed by Donald Trump. This, except it's not just the reality of rich/powerful people (i.e., unimpressive), it's the reality of all organizations. Extremely well regarded organizations — businesses, research groups, government agencies, etc. — feel like absolute shitshows on the inside. Even incredibly smart people within those organizations routinely make mistakes, miscommunicate, look dumb when confronting weird situations or topics outside their expertise, and so on. What fascinates me is how organizational issues are so consistent across organizations. The poo poo I was dealing with when I was 18 and working in a small university department was pretty much the same as what I was later dealing with at a walnut orchard, at a tech startup, at a giant airline, at global management consultancy, and when working with august government agencies. The only thing that changes is the vocabulary. The idea of some super coordinated evil genius conspiracy is not scary. It's far more terrifying when you realize that all of our institutions are chaotic as hell and seem to somehow keep standing against all odds.
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nonathlon posted:That was exactly what Clinton Watts said in the Slate podcast: "someone started this to sell t-shirts". Did anyone correct this? It is literally the exact opposite of what happened. FBI counter-terrorism expert Clint Watts:"This is why I don’t believe Qanon is what it really claims to be. The initial production value of some of those videos was fantastic. So that’s not grassroots, usually. That signals to me that there is a propagandist behind the scenes that’s got something to gain. Financial, social mobilisation, political front. Something is going on. There’s gotta be resources, there’s gonna be people with talent, there’s gotta be dissemination that’s coordinated. That’s the one thing about Qanon that makes me think okay this isn’t exactly what it’s claiming to be, and that a lot of people are getting duped". Pesca: So not just the Merch arm of the Lyndon Larouche army? Watts: No. https://slate.com/news-and-politics...transcript.html And yes I shared sources outlining the connection between Jim Watkins and Q a month ago. https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1308542948481683456?s=20 Bucky Fullminster fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Smeef posted:This, except it's not just the reality of rich/powerful people (i.e., unimpressive), it's the reality of all organizations. Extremely well regarded organizations — businesses, research groups, government agencies, etc. — feel like absolute shitshows on the inside. Even incredibly smart people within those organizations routinely make mistakes, miscommunicate, look dumb when confronting weird situations or topics outside their expertise, and so on. At all levels but the very top it's people half-assing their jobs, thinking about lunch, distracted by their personal lives, chatting about Better Call Saul. No one is competent outside their specific niche roles, if then. All that's needed for the (quite convincing!) illusion of substance and coherence is a nice letterhead and a public relations arm.
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Helsing posted:The Metropolitan Correctional Facility has had a single successful suicide in the last 21 years, back in 1998 whereas there have been a bunch of attempts that were successful foiled. Detainees at the MCC are given tissue-thin blankets that aren't supposed to support a human's body weight and are reportedly watched closely by guards. Additionally, Epstein was improperly taken off suicide watch, his cell mate was transferred just before his death, and two different cameras watching Epstein's cell independently malfunctioned on the night of his death (coincidentally the video from his first "suicide attempt" was deleted, and the backup copy of the video was also deleted, due to 'human error'). Epstein was found to have multiple neck fractures, including a broken hyoid bone, a break most commonly associated with homicidal strangulation, and there was blood in his eyes, which is also apparently most commonly associated with homicidal strangulation. One of the forensic pathologists present at his autopsy, Michael Baden, asserted that the marks on Epstein's neck indicated he had been strangled with a thin wire, that there was blood on his neck that wasn't present on the ligatures, and that bruises on his shoulder and wrists suggest he had been restrained prior to being strangled. Apathy420 posted:I thought that the whole “both camera feeds were cut mysteriously before the suicide” was sourced back to a single speculative tweet day-of? Yes is there a counter to this cavalcade of [edit: indiscriminately fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Well to be clear what I listed only becomes proper "evidence" after you have a specific narrative that you want to fit it into. Until that point it's just a pile of weird facts and/or interpretations of facts that could be used to argue for or against all kinds of different interpretations.Apathy420 posted:I thought that the whole “both camera feeds were cut mysteriously before the suicide” was sourced back to a single speculative tweet day-of? I believe that it was initially sourced to a tweet by someone who cited anonymous sources inside the prison. That was later confirmed when it was reported that the cameras had been sent to Quantico for analysis by the FBI. So it's pretty well established that every camera with a direct view of what happened was somehow non-functional. Likewise, it has been confirmed that the video his original incident where he either tried to kill himself or was attacked by Tartaglione was first lost and then later deleted by prison officials. However, in the indictment against the guards who were on duty when Epstein died it is stated that there is some existing video of the common area of the Special Housing Unit where Epstein's cell was located, and that while this video doesn't show inside Epstein's cell the indictment states that it doesn't show anyone else accessing the hallway leading to Epstein's cell. So far as I know that video hasn't been released nor have its contents been described outside of that oblique reference in the indictment. William Barr, who said he was initially suspicious of Epstein's death, has claimed to have viewed footage confirming that no one else had entered Epstein's cell, and it may be that Barr was referencing the same video mentioned in the indictment, provided you think Barr is a reliable source here.
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I mean, ultimately there’s nothing strange about negligence and institutional callousness in an American prison. That’s not incompatible with the American government’s apparent lack of interest in keeping Epstein alive for whatever reason, which could be from any number of causes.
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bird with big dick posted:That big bird really has a sort of come hither vibe I misread this as "come hitler" 
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Helsing posted:Well to be clear what I listed only becomes proper "evidence" after you have a specific narrative that you want to fit it into. Until that point it's just a pile of weird facts and/or interpretations of facts that could be used to argue for or against all kinds of different interpretations. Barr whose father hired an unqualified Epstein as a math instructor at an elite private academy. And who has a history of lying and endless toadying and using the Justice Department in an entirely partisan way, so no, I do not consider Barr even remotely reliable. In fact Barr saying something means I think that most likely the opposite is true assuming he has something to gain by the lie, which, shockingly, he does.
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indiscriminately posted:Yes is there a counter to this cavalcade of evidence? Not a Putin-style muddying of the waters, more like peer-review to ground it / strengthen it? I wouldn't be too quick to call any of it evidence. The camera thing was a social media rumour, he was taken off suicide watch days before his suicide and the medical examiner is satisfied it was suicide by hanging. As for specially tearable prison sheets preventing any hangings you can make rope from toilet paper.
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GABA ghoul posted:Hi op. I have a serious question and it's not intended to be confrontational. What do you hope to get out of posting this? Like, do you just do it for yourself to order your thoughts/ideas or do you think that it might also sway some people itt? It did help me order my thoughts on the matter, so it was beneficial to me. To the point that after all these years I realized what sort of sneaky sleight-of-hand trick Comey pulled, and for that I am grateful to one of the other posters here. Will it sway some people? As I've said, I'm not trying to win an Internet argument here. However, when I offered to give an explanation, I can't just not defend the points I'm making. People can make up their own minds. Antifa Turkeesian posted:Are you saying that Hillary Clinton is a pedophile? I'm not saying she's a pedophile. I can't know for sure whether that's true or not, so I'm going to assume it's not true until proven otherwise. But she has not amassed all these different rumors swirling around her by being a good person. I'm strongly leaning towards her being power-hungry at all costs. It is somewhat funny watching her squirm and blame everyone else but herself for her own failures. Do you think such a person has anything resembling integrity? Antifa Turkeesian posted:And if Obama’s judicial appointments are involved, is Mitch McConnell part of the resistance against the pedophiles, or was his obstruction of Obama merely a happy accident? As for McConnell, do you mean a specific action? Time period? If it was right after Trump had won, then McConnell seemed to be in opposition to Trump, but I guess he got won over behind the scenes at some point. McConnell strikes me as the kind of guy who knows which way the wind is blowing and reorients himself accordingly. If you've been long enough in DC, you will eventually get swayed by some group currying favour. One donation here, another donation there, and it eventually makes you beholden. Jim Jordan, the right's champion, has been receiving money from Google since 2012, so that's his credibility shot right there. You just can't tell with these people. Antifa Turkeesian posted:And is the idea that every prosecutor in the country part of Hillary Clinton’s blackmail network? I'm not saying every person that is compromised is compromised by her. Hillary is a small fry in all of this, surprisingly enough. Other people have the goods, too. They're all keeping tabs on each other to make sure no one starts singing. When you enter an environment where playing dirty means long-term survival, you either quit the game early on or join it. It's not impossible to stay clean, but if you start making waves... Antifa Turkeesian posted:Could Trump turn her over to the Hague or get another country’s law system involved? Scotland Yard? London police?
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Blattdorf posted:It did help me order my thoughts on the matter, so it was beneficial to me. To the point that after all these years I realized what sort of sneaky sleight-of-hand trick Comey pulled, and for that I am grateful to one of the other posters here. Hi OP I was wondering if you read the snopes link I posted about how you got the Biden clip about Shokin completely backwards. I'm not even saying this is your fault, it was shown out of context on tons of right wing sites. I'm just asking because I was wondering if you were open to the idea that you could have been misled about other things in this way, and wondering if you ever try to go out of your way to find ways you might be wrong about any of this. I am not here to defend Joe Biden it's just one thing you posted that immediately jumped out as completely verifiably wrong to me.
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Obama didn't "spy" on Trump. The FBI is investigating him because he's a traitor dude. You can't make deals with America's enemies and not expect America to notice. You aren't "asking questions", you aren't "unbiased". You've bought in, wholesale, to the republican's lies. You've believed lies to make you "feel better".
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Blattdorf posted:But she has not amassed all these different rumors swirling around her by being a good person. I'm strongly leaning towards her being power-hungry at all costs. It is somewhat funny watching her squirm and blame everyone else but herself for her own failures. Do you think such a person has anything resembling integrity? So, where there's smoke there's fire? Can't prove that she's not a power-hungry machievalean, so ... ehhhh ... probably she is? As a thought experiment, what evidence would be sufficient for you to conclude that you're wrong? Is there anything?
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Dude just said rumors are in and of themselves indicative of truth. No point in continuing to hash this out with someone who believes this. Forget it, Jake, it's QAnon.
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pseudanonymous posted:It's not shocking, but the idea that the pedophile who was close friends with the president and almost definitely would testify against him who was hired by the attorney generals father for no reason was "Accidentally" allowed off camera and off suicide watch for "reasons" in a jail that hasn't had a successful suicide in like 20 years is pretty laughable to think that's all just coincedence. Ah yes, Occam's razor: "The answer that backs up my conclusions is the simplest to internally rationalize and therefore most likely correct". Dude probably killed himself, and the reason he wasn't stopped is American prisons are run/funded by the lowest bidder/highest political donor. Regardless, the whole point is moot - investigators could release a tape of Trump engaged in Epstein's services with a child from 12 different angles and 1/3 of the Qultists would say it's inconclusive without 13 angles, 1/3 would say having so many pieces of evidence is suspicious and points to a fake and 1/3 would say he went deep undercover. All of them would conclude Hillary was behind it all. The only witch in this hunt are the ones the Qult dislikes and that's not gonna change. Origami Dali posted:Dude just said rumors are in and of themselves indicative of truth. No point in continuing to hash this out with someone who believes this. Forget it, Jake, it's QAnon. Look, if Hillary isn't a criminal, why do I keep saying she is one, huh smarty-pants?
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stillvisions posted:Regardless, the whole point is moot - investigators could release a tape of Trump engaged in Epstein's services with a child from 12 different angles and 1/3 of the Qultists would say it's inconclusive without 13 angles, 1/3 would say having so many pieces of evidence is suspicious and points to a fake and 1/3 would say he went deep undercover. All of them would conclude Hillary was behind it all. And, to make it super clear, this is because the actual nitty gritty of "truth" and "facts" don't actually matter to QAnon believers. They're in it for the big haul- the proper boogaloo end times scenario of open civil war, racial purges, and divine judgment delivered by whatever scourge God chooses. Everything else is just wheat for the grinder, proof that they're right no matter what. Reality has become their enemy, to be challenged and opposed at all times; all contradictions are actually evidence in their favour; the only answer is "this proves my point."
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Slander (and libel, defamation, rumormongering, ...) is a moral crime beyond just deception because it has a lasting potency. Something like the emotional inertia of a disproven conspiracy theory. If I hear and process a baseless accusation that Hillary Clinton is a racist or a pedophile or a cannibal then my brain connects those labels to my internal concept of Hillary Clinton. Where before there were no such connections at all, now there are, and even though I immediately realize "oh, of course she's none of those things", these connections persist in my brain in an attenuated form and henceforth when I recall the idea of Hillary Clinton they will tint what my brain returns. And every time I hear similar slander, the connections will be briefly corroborated and minutely amplified. The victims of slander are not just the people slandered but also all people who hear and process the slander.
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Blattdorf posted:Could anything ever prove any of this to not be true, Blattdorf? Are your beliefs falsifiable? What theoretical evidence could be produced that would, in your mind, exonerate Clinton? It is super important, if your beliefs hinge on actual evidence, that there could theoretically be some actual evidence that proves them untrue. This must be the case, or else the belief is based on nothing.
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Hey, Blattdorf. The piss tape is real. You are ignoring the actual conspiracy right in front of your face in favor of the irrational grudge on Hillary Clinton that's been brainwashed into your head. https://pisstape.org
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I've heard a lot of rumors that forums poster blattdorf likes to do undefined shady things. In fact, I've heard so many rumors that I wonder if maybe forums poster blattdorf is secretly a major pedophile, and is friends with major pedophiles - why else would everyone in the thread dunk on this guy who I've heard shady rumors about? I'm not saying he is or isn't, but it's strange that so many people seem to be talking negatively about him, don't you think?
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Blattdorf posted:Sending Hillary over to another country doesn't seem like such a good idea when you realize that Obama's spying on Trump was made possible by the Five Eyes network. Besides, she could always offer to disclose US national secrets to get a better deal. Ah... Zuh... Do... Do you know which countries are in FVEY? 
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Trazz posted:Hey, Blattdorf. The piss tape is real. You are ignoring the actual conspiracy right in front of your face in favor of the irrational grudge on Hillary Clinton that's been brainwashed into your head. But that is a good guy and even if it "happened" he was doing for a good cause. Plus its not a conspiracy as everyone knows about it!
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https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1308912546133553153 Didn't see this get posted in the last couple pages. ABC firmly points the finger at Jim Watkins and his son as Q
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Er what? In as much as she's had media coverage for the last 3 years it's been an old lady going for walks in the woods. She's hardly Ernst Blofeld. quote:As for McConnell, do you mean a specific action? Time period? If it was right after Trump had won, then McConnell seemed to be in opposition to Trump, but I guess he got won over behind the scenes at some point. McConnell strikes me as the kind of guy who knows which way the wind is blowing and reorients himself accordingly. Wait you do a deep dive into one politician's history and make a bunch of assumptions about what they did, but other politicians' actions that are well recorded are just ??????. What. quote:
Ec-loving-scuse me? There's no evidence of the former and the latter doesn't make any sense.
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Blattdorf posted:Sending Hillary over to another country doesn't seem like such a good idea when you realize that Obama's spying on Trump was made possible by the Five Eyes network. Besides, she could always offer to disclose US national secrets to get a better deal. Please describe what you think the “Five Eyes Network” is.
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1308912546133553153 I'd never seen this guy before this screenshot. Tracking him down would be impossible because he'd blend right in with the expat community in the Philippines. Like finding a (very dirty) needle in a
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Smeef posted:I'd never seen this guy before this screenshot. Tracking him down would be impossible because he'd blend right in with the expat community in the Philippines. Like finding a (very dirty) needle in a bit of a good/news bad news situation because he is back in the US as of Sept. 9th, and is unlikely to return to the philippines cause he's been labeled an undesirable foreigner by Duerte's government
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:bit of a good/news bad news situation because he is back in the US as of Sept. 9th, and is unlikely to return to the philippines cause he's been labeled an undesirable foreigner by Duerte's government I mean, is Duerte wrong in this case?
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