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Oh ye gods, my health is ruined! But what if...I were to claim the One Piece and disguise it as my own treasure? Hohoho, delightfully devilish Roger!
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I wonder if the grand line itself is an artificial construct, like in the absence of a physical barrier like the red line whether it was created specifically to divide the world further. This is absolutely the case. The Grand Line is largely created by two barriers the red line, which already seems somewhat artificial fusion of raised islands and the Calm Belts. The Calm Belts are specifically dangerous because of the existence of Sea Kings which are intelligent beings who can be commanded by Poseidon, a reoccurring biological weapon. It hardly seems out of the question that they were commanded to maintain the Calm Belt as a barrier. It's been stated several times that the Grand Line itself is a way to force the strong to fight each other, what with how the log pose works. It even works with the nature of the devil fruits and their proximity rebirth, which ensures that fruit come into the Grand Line but rarely leave.
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Sep 22, 2020 19:51
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Would be interesting if Kaido is depressed because ace died.
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Sep 22, 2020 20:20
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oddium posted:the one piece is real One Piece is a collection of free drink vouchers for Makino's bar. Nobody but Luffy will even know where it is.
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Sep 23, 2020 03:55
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:Oh ye gods, my health is ruined! But what if...I were to claim the One Piece and disguise it as my own treasure? So you're telling me that One Piece is on Laugh Tale, an island at the end of the grand line. May I see it?
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Sep 23, 2020 05:00
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Libra posted:An ocean current would drown in itself if it ate a devil fruit. If a fishman who ate a devil fruit doesn't drown, I think an ocean current would be fine.
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Sep 23, 2020 07:15
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Holy hell we're 81 chapters into wano lol
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Sep 23, 2020 07:31
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Ah, so both sides of the calm belt are ocean currents that ate devil fruits and sank to the bottom of themselves and lost their ability to swim.
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Sep 23, 2020 07:31
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Libra posted:Ah, so both sides of the calm belt are ocean currents that ate devil fruits and sank to the bottom of themselves and lost their ability to swim. Now you're getting it!
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Sep 23, 2020 08:45
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Cloks posted:So you're telling me that One Piece is on Laugh Tale, an island at the end of the grand line. Well Roger, I made it, despite your poneglyphs. Ah Captain Whitebeard welcome, I hope you're prepared for an unforgettable adventure Rich Uncle Chet fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Sep 23, 2020 10:04
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No, that isn't the moku moku no mi, it's the Yura yura no mi. The yura yura no mi of Steam D Clams.
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Sep 23, 2020 10:18
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:Well Roger, I made it, despite your poneglyphs. lol
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Sep 23, 2020 11:18
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i think sabo got owned in his fight at the levely and when luffy is within spitting distance of laugh tale he will learn that sabo has been captured and will be executed, and abandon his quest to go back for him. since oda is mirroring part 1 in part 2, it makes sense to have luffy go charging in to rescue his captured brother, user of the mera mera no mi, yet again.
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Sep 23, 2020 12:57
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I'm 100% down for a rescue Ace arc except this time it's the strawhat armada, the entire revolutionary army, and probably Big Mom who is still mostly just trying to kill Luffy but she just absolutely shitcans half of the Marines trying to do it.
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Sep 23, 2020 15:28
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Sanji! Your leg is on fire! No Chopper, that's just my burning rage.
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Paper Lion posted:i think sabo got owned in his fight at the levely and when luffy is within spitting distance of laugh tale he will learn that sabo has been captured and will be executed, and abandon his quest to go back for him. since oda is mirroring part 1 in part 2, it makes sense to have luffy go charging in to rescue his captured brother, user of the mera mera no mi, yet again. Spanish Matlock posted:I'm 100% down for a rescue Ace arc except this time it's the strawhat armada, the entire revolutionary army, and probably Big Mom who is still mostly just trying to kill Luffy but she just absolutely shitcans half of the Marines trying to do it. while we're at it, have bon clay break out of prison to provide another escape route
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Sep 23, 2020 17:04
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A rescue arc where Luffy is the Whitebeard rather than just some dumb rookie would be pretty sweet.
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Sep 23, 2020 17:43
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That's a silly idea but would be worth it if Sabo died because he sucks.
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Ryaomon posted:That's a silly idea but would be worth it if Sabo died because he sucks. Look at this incredibly wrong opinion. Sabo is fine, he'd have been a little better off if say he'd been mentioned in Alabasta between Ace and Luffy but narratively him being someone they lost and don't talk about works fine. He's got a cool aesthetic and a neat way to use the Mera Mera no Mi that's fairly different to how Ace used it which is nice, we don't often get to see the same fruit as used by two different people. Alsot he whole point of redoing the Ace stuff with Sabo is for Luffy to succeed this time, not fail again.
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Sep 23, 2020 19:59
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sabo stinks because its oda just getting the emotional payoff of almost never killing characters and then killing a character in a vvery big way and then just instantly replacing him with a palette swap
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Sep 23, 2020 20:09
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I can't fully forgive Sabo for his story hinging so heavily on amnesia, a plot device I really just hate a lot.
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Sep 23, 2020 20:10
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tbp posted:sabo stinks because its oda just getting the emotional payoff of almost never killing characters and then killing a character in a vvery big way and then just instantly replacing him with a palette swap Besides the fire ability and their relationship to Luffy, Sabo and Ace are very different characters with different motivations.
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Sep 23, 2020 20:11
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Honestly the only part I don't like about Sabo was the whole Amnesia plot excuse used to keep him out of the story until after the timeskip. You could have kept the whole story the same, but changed it from amnesia to "Sabo was on an undercover mission for the Revolutionaries far away from Marineford at the time", and then he'd have an emotional breakdown over not being there for his brothers, and it could have led to character development in the form of him vowing to never put his job ahead of the people he cares about.
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Sep 23, 2020 20:16
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Julias posted:Honestly the only part I don't like about Sabo was the whole Amnesia plot excuse used to keep him out of the story until after the timeskip. You could have kept the whole story the same, but changed it from amnesia to "Sabo was on an undercover mission for the Revolutionaries far away from Marineford at the time", and then he'd have an emotional breakdown over not being there for his brothers, and it could have led to character development in the form of him vowing to never put his job ahead of the people he cares about. 
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Sep 23, 2020 20:18
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Well no because you need to account for what 10 years of him not finding his brothers
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Sep 23, 2020 20:24
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Also him having amnesia is honestly the only reason he'd never mention who he is to Robin, who I'm sure would've told Luffy if she knew. Unless Sabo wouldn't want her to for...some reason.
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EmmyOk posted:Well no because you need to account for what 10 years of him not finding his brothers ....not really? Like, he gets taken in by dragon, and then in exchange for taking care of him he vows to fight among the revolutionaries against the World Nob LK es based on his experiences/being told about the Celestial Dragons. As a kid he's not going to go out on his own, and they're still relatively young pre-timeskip, like luffy is 17, and the whole pre-timeskip occurs over the course of less than a year. It's not like Ace and Luffy met up again before running into each other on the grand line, and sabo's been in the grand line too. It's easy to believe that he wouldn't have had time to get in contact before the Battle at Marineford, and then Luffy went MIA for 2 years.
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TheLoneStar posted:Also him having amnesia is honestly the only reason he'd never mention who he is to Robin, who I'm sure would've told Luffy if she knew. Unless Sabo wouldn't want her to for...some reason. ...except he got his memory back about the time Robin joined up with the Revolutionaries. So she either did know, and just didn't care to bring it up, or sabo never told her personally.  (The real reason it never came up is likely just a plot hole from Oda tring to justify bringing Sabo back into the story)
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Sep 23, 2020 20:34
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EmmyOk posted:Well no because you need to account for what 10 years of him not finding his brothers the story is already chock full of characters who care very deeply for Luffy and do not often, if ever, check up on or even speak to him because they're quite frankly busy with their own poo poo
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Julias posted:...except he got his memory back about the time Robin joined up with the Revolutionaries. So she either did know, and just didn't care to bring it up, or sabo never told her personally. But you're right on the latter part. It felt almost forced a bit.
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it's hard to believe Sabo wouldn't try to contact Ace or Luffy in some way, but amnesia has even more plot holes. Ace's capture was a big deal so he would have heard of Ace and seen his face before, and Ace was a prominent figure in WB's crew. I like Sabo as a whole, his breakdown scene is good despite amnesia, but the amnesia still sucks and I can echo that he should have at least a half mention in alabasta when Ace and Luffy were talking to smooth out his reveal. Hard to tell if Sabo was planned at all then, but it seemed Oda knew he was going to have Ace captured and die early on; maybe thought later he still wanted a big brother figure for Luffy in the story.
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Sep 23, 2020 20:50
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Amnesia is way better than didn’t let my brothers know I was alive for 12 years lol
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Rohan Kishibe posted:A rescue arc where Luffy is the Whitebeard rather than just some dumb rookie would be pretty sweet.
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Sep 23, 2020 21:14
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we are definitely going to get a rescue/war arc where luffy comes rocking in as the loving king of the pirates to take down the gov. if not oda's a hack
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Sep 23, 2020 21:42
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Elfgames posted:we are definitely going to get a rescue/war arc where luffy comes rocking in as the loving king of the pirates to take down the gov. if not oda's a hack Would love to read your syndicated One piece publication, master mangaka 
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Sep 23, 2020 22:05
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We're def getting that big face off but I hope it's not over Sabo as opposed to what they learn on laugh tale etc. I'm just not sure if he beats WG before BB or not.
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Sep 23, 2020 22:28
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can feel the approach of a new one piece on the horizon awooooooooo
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Sep 23, 2020 22:35
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the manga has to end at lougetown, so I just always assumed the WG/Imu is the final clear goal
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Sep 23, 2020 22:37
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If the final showdown is going to be prompted by the WG trying to execute someone Luffy cares about the stakes would be a lot better if it were Vivi rather than Sabo.
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I just don't care about Sabo and I think a lot of that is just the framing around his introduction Throwing in a character who is deeply important to the protagonist but has never been mentioned or alluded to in the past twenty years of your manga will never not put me off.
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