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Starks
Sep 24, 2006

I don’t really think it’s hard to sympathize with people who were brainwashed, branded and forced into sexual slavery, regardless of how dumb you think they are. I do agree that many of the people interviewed are perpetrators portrayed as victims, especially the mark guy. Even when he’s owning up to what he did it comes across as insincere and almost like he’s winking at the camera. Gives off a very creepy vibe

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Deadite
Aug 30, 2003

A fat guy, a watermelon, and a stack of magazines?
Family.
I think I had it in my mind that the branding was something much worse than the reality. Like I thought they were held down and branded against their will. The reality was just so mundane I guess.

Mark definitely is creepy, as is his need to record literally everything. Although that does make for a good documentary when you can hear the actual phone calls and such.

Lastdancer
Apr 21, 2008
Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg's adaptation of Console Wars finally released; it's on CBS All Access. It pretty much covers the same territory that retro gaming youtubers have, but with a bit nicer presentation and new interviews.

edit: Oh I guess they were producers on the documentary but it isn't their project. They have a project that's going to be a series on the same platform. That's not confusing at all. Anyway, the documentary is still pretty interesting

Lastdancer fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Sep 24, 2020

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Netflix also just did the same thing lol.

I don't know if it's possible to cover retro video game history any more at this point. It's not even that interesting.

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice
Man, after watching Dragon's Dogma I do not have hope for post Warren Ellis Castlevania. Cuz it's essentially Castlevania but stripped of good writing, wit, nuance, and characters. At least the fight scenes will still be good.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


the NXIVM doc is maybe the worst offender in the "this documentary should have been 2 hours tops" category that's popped up lately. Way worse than McMillions was. I didn't think you could make a sex cult seem boring as hell, but here we are. Not sure I'm going to bother finishing at this point.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

veni veni veni posted:

Netflix also just did the same thing lol.

I don't know if it's possible to cover retro video game history any more at this point. It's not even that interesting.

I watch way too much of this stuff on YouTube as my background noise kind of videos and I couldn't be less interested in a slick big budget version. That stuff works best as dry as possible. Talking heads would absolutely be to its detriment for what I enjoy abou them. And yeah, it's not even that interesting.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

sponges posted:

If anyone wants to watch 2 hours of morally bankrupt idiots doing awful things to each other St. Elmo’s Fire is on Prime.

What an utter shite movie

this caused a fight with my then gf for picking it

Why would she do this to me

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

doctorfrog posted:

Speaking of The Mask reminds me of my first DVDs. I bought a decent Sony DVD player in the early days of DVD for around $200, and it came with four free DVDs:
  • The Mask
  • Analyze This
  • Get Shorty
  • The Jackal
In those days, The Mask was the only one that didn't give me unpleasant vibes. I have no need to see any of those movies ever again, though. The Jackal has some bits that merit a rewatch (or a YouTube highlight reel), like Jack "Bring on the spall" Black getting exploded by a drone rapid-fire sniper rifle, or Sidney Poitier leaping in front of the First Lady to take a bullet.

But yeah in those days I watched those movies a bunch of times, because they were on DVD, man!

whats wrong with Get Shorty?

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

I watched one episode of Ratched and it's the shittiest thing ever. It's as schlocky and corny as True Blood but it thinks it's prestige which makes it intolerable. Netflix.

I also watched one episode of The Night Manager and it seems good so far and I'll keep watching it. It's a spy show based on a Le Carre book (or one of his ilk, don't specifically remember). Prime.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


regulargonzalez posted:

I watched one episode of Ratched and it's the shittiest thing ever. It's as schlocky and corny as True Blood but it thinks it's prestige which makes it intolerable. Netflix.

Yeah. I watched 2 episodes and it's awful.

I also realized I cannot stand Sarah Paulson.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
You know I could squint and kinda maybe understand how you could get a miniseries out of a Nurse Ratched prequel, but they appear to be aiming for multiple seasons?

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I have not watched it, but I don't really want to either. The problem with Nurse Ratched is that she was more of a symptom and not the disease itself. The trailer just turned me off because it makes her out to be sinister right off the bat.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Iron Crowned posted:

I have not watched it, but I don't really want to either. The problem with Nurse Ratched is that she was more of a symptom and not the disease itself. The trailer just turned me off because it makes her out to be sinister right off the bat.

Not to mention that she just seems like a straight up comic book villain. In the film she was an employee who was every bit as institutionalized as the people she cared for.

John Yossarian
Aug 24, 2013
I've been watching Party Down on Hulu recently, I forgot how good it is.

Jolo
Jun 4, 2007

ive been playing with magnuts tying to change the wold as we know it

John Yossarian posted:

I've been watching Party Down on Hulu recently, I forgot how good it is.

Ken Marino is a treasure. He's so so good at playing that kind of dude.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

punk rebel ecks posted:

Not to mention that she just seems like a straight up comic book villain. In the film she was an employee who was every bit as institutionalized as the people she cared for.

Right, I mean there could technically be a story there. A young idealistic nurse with a head full of dreams of doing good getting slowly ground down to become the villain we know. The problem with that is that it would difficult for it to not become misery porn by that part.

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN
Ratched owns because it’s taking the basic premise of an evil nurse and doing straight-up Hannibal 2.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Iron Crowned posted:

Right, I mean there could technically be a story there. A young idealistic nurse with a head full of dreams of doing good getting slowly ground down to become the villain we know. The problem with that is that it would difficult for it to not become misery porn by that part.

Pretty much. I actually worked in an institution similar to show and it has given me some trauma due to the stuff I've experienced there.

I will say that the way these places are often portrayed in media often isn't correct and things aren't as "black and white" as it is portrayed.

eighty-four merc
Dec 22, 2010


In 2020, we're going to make the end of Fight Club real.
Mission impossible 6 (prime) might be the worst I've seen in series (haven't seen 5) but the stunt work is unreal and it has enough of that to make it worthwhile

What other movies with sick stunt work are on Netflix/prime/Hulu?

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Ip Man, p much anything else with Donnie Yen

thatfuturekid
Jan 5, 2014

eighty-four merc posted:

Mission impossible 6 (prime) might be the worst I've seen in series (haven't seen 5) but the stunt work is unreal and it has enough of that to make it worthwhile

What other movies with sick stunt work are on Netflix/prime/Hulu?

In the Line of Duty IV on prime. It’s one of my fav HK action movies, and it’s got some amazing stunt work in it

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Deadite posted:

I think I had it in my mind that the branding was something much worse than the reality. Like I thought they were held down and branded against their will. The reality was just so mundane I guess.

Mark definitely is creepy, as is his need to record literally everything. Although that does make for a good documentary when you can hear the actual phone calls and such.

Having not watched it (No HBO), is it possible the documentary is just covering it weird. I definitely heard some worse stories back when it was in the news, including a pretty bad version of the branding where the women were basically forced into seeing it through because they handed over blackmail material before committing (and relevant leaders lied to them and made them think it was just a cool little tattoo thing and not a literal master's brand).

Some reporter had a crazy story where they ended up at an NXIUM camp thing after they were invited to check it out without knowing what it was beyond the front. They seemed to do intentionally starve them of protein for a few days under the guise of a cool diet and they seemed to have a cell phone jammer up. His story included him slipping out in the morning, briskly walking to the train station until he suddenly had a cell phone signal, at which point he was flooded with texts from friends telling him it was cult recruitment and that he should probably run to the train.

So...there's probably some stuff there, even if it's not much more than a few hours worth.

Deadite
Aug 30, 2003

A fat guy, a watermelon, and a stack of magazines?
Family.
Yeah I’m starting to think the guy who is behind the documentary has to thread the needle where he needs to make NXIUM seem like a terrible cult, but also present it in a way where the things that happened weren’t SO crazy that he never joined. Since he was admittedly a big part of the cult, we know he bought into these things fervently. So if he went along with crazy stuff from the start then he loses credibility as a documentarian. I don’t know if I’m expressing that right.

I have noticed he doesn’t seem to interview anyone from outside of NXIUM, other than the mother of a member. It would be nice if we could get the perspective of people who investigated it, or attended events and knew things were wrong, or even the Albany locals who had to deal with the headquarters, but he keeps the focus pretty tight to people who were all in and then left later

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

John Yossarian posted:

I've been watching Party Down on Hulu recently, I forgot how good it is.
Party Down was the show that was so good that everyone got jobs on fancier shows and so Party Down died.

Toaster Beef
Jan 23, 2007

that's not nature's way
Ratched is some Ryan Murphy-rear end Ryan Murphy, and not much else.

It looks pretty, I guess that's cool

pumped up for school
Nov 24, 2010

TychoCelchuuu posted:

Party Down was the show that was so good that everyone got jobs on fancier shows and so Party Down died.

Did y'all see Burning Love? Was a riff on the Bachelor. Used to be streaming on US hulu but went away I think. That one made me laugh in the "stupid and absurd but just funny" way like Children's Hospital.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
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pumped up for school posted:

Did y'all see Burning Love? Was a riff on the Bachelor. Used to be streaming on US hulu but went away I think. That one made me laugh in the "stupid and absurd but just funny" way like Children's Hospital.

It was a Yahoo! Screen show, so who knows if it ends up anywhere.

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005

eighty-four merc posted:

Mission impossible 6 (prime) might be the worst I've seen in series (haven't seen 5) but the stunt work is unreal and it has enough of that to make it worthwhile

What other movies with sick stunt work are on Netflix/prime/Hulu?
On Netflix I see: Harcore Henry, Avengement, Furie, Master Z: Ip Man Legacy

Deadite
Aug 30, 2003

A fat guy, a watermelon, and a stack of magazines?
Family.
I decided to rewatch Peep Show on Prime and this happened:



Season one, episode six just isn’t available? It’s giving me the option to buy it, so it isn’t just unavailable completely. I don’t see episodes missing from other seasons either so this is a mystery.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

There's a separate listing for it that only includes the second and third seasons as free on Prime, but it includes the episode you're missing. Bizarre.

edit: lol I can't read, it's a different season. Still weird though.

Joda
Apr 24, 2010

When I'm off, I just like to really let go and have fun, y'know?

Fun Shoe
I'm Thinking of Ending Things (Netflix) had me bawling like a tiny baby, but only after I watched an analysis. It has a lot going on, and as Adam says, it's not very easy to get on your first watch (If you do then props to you!) I only really understood the themes and tone on my watch, but everything fell into place watching his analysis, and I just couldn't close the flood gates after that.

I'm unsure if I would recommend watching it multiple times or watching the analysis if you're like me and don't completely understand it on your first watch, but I guess it depends on what type of person you are.

Analysis in question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9Zv-rpWzs

Joda fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Sep 25, 2020

garycoleisgod
Sep 27, 2004
Boo

teagone posted:

Watched Enola Holmes earlier. Nothing particularly spectacular about it, but it wasn't bad. I liked it. I haven't read the books or graphic novels, but I've gotten a few of them for my goddaughter and she enjoyed the film a lot. Cavill doesn't really do much as Sherlock, but the movie isn't about him anyways (he looks great in the role though lol). Millie Bobby Brown was pretty good as the lead and really does carry the film. I wouldn't mind a sequel or two.

I'm of much the same opinion. The film is a bit of fluff, but younger audiences and especially girls will go nuts for it. I think the reason they didn't have much Sherlock is
1) maybe Cavill wasn't available to shoot for long
2) they needed Enola to solve the mystery and having Sherlock around a lot would mean maybe he solves it first, cause while the story isn't about him, he's still Sherlock Holmes and puts stuff together quick

I knew after watching it I would go online and see the usual suspects complaining about feminism and men-hating agendas and yep, I was right. Such fragile little babies. Oh no, a girl is smart, this threatens me!

I see complaints that this film is unfair to Mycroft, but my knowledge of Sherlock stories is that he has always been kind of a shithead. Him being a massive sexist seems on brand.

I also like that they deviate from recent Sherlock traditions about the character and his clones like House in that, get this, this Sherlock isn't a sociopath and seems like a nice guy! Maybe that's just Cavill's charm. I especially love when he's told his sister already solved the case and he's not angry or jealous, but just really proud of her

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

I'm Thinking of Ending Things rewatch discussion:


I've only rewatched the part in the car with the poem and knowing what I know about his life and how important that poem must be to him, and how good a poem it is, it absolutely made me cry like a baby.


It's such a good movie it's amazing how it sticks with you.

Joda
Apr 24, 2010

When I'm off, I just like to really let go and have fun, y'know?

Fun Shoe

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I'm Thinking of Ending Things rewatch discussion:


I've only rewatched the part in the car with the poem and knowing what I know about his life and how important that poem must be to him, and how good a poem it is, it absolutely made me cry like a baby.


It's such a good movie it's amazing how it sticks with you.

That poem resonated so strongly with me that I teared up while she was reading it, even on my first watch having no clue where everything was going. I literally thought "That's about me" before Jake even commented on it. I can't wait to go back for a second watch knowing what is going on under the surface to see how everything ties together.

Right now I can't even think about the movie without getting a lump in my throat, so I think maybe I will need to get some distance first.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Why is Ted Lasso so good?? What the gently caress?? It's so goddamn confusing.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

garycoleisgod posted:

I also like that they deviate from recent Sherlock traditions about the character and his clones like House in that, get this, this Sherlock isn't a sociopath and seems like a nice guy! Maybe that's just Cavill's charm. I especially love when he's told his sister already solved the case and he's not angry or jealous, but just really proud of her

Same. I loved Cavill's little laugh at the revelation of Enola's discovery. I'd hope for more of his Sherlock in the next one, assuming Netflix opts for a sequel (they probably will, they'd be stupid not to); a story centered around Enola where Sherlock is relegated to Watson-sidekick-status to her solving a case would be great. Seeing the sister/brother rapport develop between the two could make for a nice sequel B-story.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
I like him not being a sociopath, but Sherlock must be a drug addict.

DorianGravy
Sep 12, 2007

Punkin Spunkin posted:

I like him not being a sociopath, but Sherlock must be a drug addict.

I'm pretty sure Sherlock becomes less of an addict as the original series goes on. (And I always enjoy the hint of disapproval when Watson, a doctor, mentions Sherlock's drug use.)

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teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Punkin Spunkin posted:

I like him not being a sociopath, but Sherlock must be a drug addict.

Would be a nice reveal in an Enola sequel actually. They really do play up the charm and resolve in the film, painting a perfect picture of a caring, warm, and just genuinely good Sherlock. Breaking him down like that to addiction in a sequel, and Enola finding out and having to save him, would be a cool story beat.

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