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Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014


Now you link that I remember seeing him once on something, I think!

taqueso posted:

I used to trade (really low quality!) wavs over IRC before mp3 existed

I remember short clips from songs, low sampling rates, mono, passed through a codec designed for voice, and only 8 characters for the filename. I don't think I ever heard anything and went "wow that's a great song I'd like to hear more of that", I think it was only good for songs I already knew :v:

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

90s Solo Cup posted:

Barely related to CD chat, but I've grown to appreciate DIN and double-DIN car CD player designs that make straight swaps to newer and better audio systems much easier. DIN/Double-DIN systems feel like obsolete technology in the face of cars with tablets tacked onto dashboards.

10 years from now scrapyards are going to be full of perfectly good cars that are unusable because the touchscreen that controls everything broke.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Some Goon posted:

Anything with a needle can play a record. You'd just have to affix a needle made of something that won't damage it. And with no preamp you wouldn't have anything to offset the riaa curve.

Yeah, you can just tape a sewing needle to a piece of stiff paper and play a record with it once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaqmdcaF87w

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Sweevo posted:

10 years from now scrapyards are going to be full of perfectly good cars that are unusable because the touchscreen that controls everything broke.

You can get complete HVAC controls and DIN radio slot third party replacements for a lot of car models with touchscreen or otherwise nonstandard layouts.

I predict that we're going to see a lot of hoarding of functional OEM units, both from scrapyards and now old stock, and an increase in availability of third-party options.

Still, just give me a DIN or double DIN slot for a radio and knobs/buttons for the rest.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


KozmoNaut posted:

You can get complete HVAC controls and DIN radio slot third party replacements for a lot of car models with touchscreen or otherwise nonstandard layouts.

I predict that we're going to see a lot of hoarding of functional OEM units, both from scrapyards and now old stock, and an increase in availability of third-party options.

Still, just give me a DIN or double DIN slot for a radio and knobs/buttons for the rest.

Literally just posted this in AI

Humphreys posted:

So new bits for the commodore!

This time I wasn't going to fart around with a Series 2 dash transplant. Luckily last year, Aerpro came out with a HVAC control system which allows 3rd party headunits to work. I jumped on it!

Before:


During Uninstallation:


Now new HVAC controls installed:




Fin, wireless Android Auto and streaming my music from Plex server on the go:


Now I have to figure out a way to program the clock on the LCD, or ditch it and chuck in one of my Series 2 top vent kits.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


How's the general quality and knob feel?

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

Sweevo posted:

10 years from now scrapyards are going to be full of perfectly good cars that are unusable because the touchscreen that controls everything broke.

10 years from now scrapyards are going to be full of perfectly good cars that are unusable because the online server that controls everything no longer exists.

Captainsalami
Apr 16, 2010

I told you you'd pay!

KozmoNaut posted:

How's the general quality and knob feel?

Ask your mom for me.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Moo the cow posted:

10 years from now scrapyards are going to be full of perfectly good cars that are unusable because the online server that controls everything no longer exists.

Sounds like a fun Arduino project to me!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


KozmoNaut posted:

How's the general quality and knob feel?

It's surprisingly good. There was a VERY janky option a few years ago but this actually has some QC. Feels like OEM. Aerpro have been around for ages and aren't some chinese fly-by-night operation. Even an install video with an Aussie showing the whole procedure. Got the kit for $299 down from $429. Really happy now it's done. The one bad thing is the typos in the written manual that ask for a 3/8th drillbit.... um thats 9.5mm-ish. We need a 2.5-3mm at most for that pilot hole.

EDIT: Obviously not including the Headunit or adaptor loom.

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 13:59 on Sep 27, 2020

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Buttcoin purse posted:

Yeah, my P166 at work couldn't really play an MP3 and do other useful things at the same time, but there were 486s lying around and I could dedicate one to running X11Amp, the Linux rip-off of WinAmp.


All I know about Blobby is when I search for commercial software on archive.org I often get Blobby discs matching.

This seems to be a picture of Blobby: https://archive.org/details/blobby49_cracked

I keep noticing stuff like https://archive.org/details/blobby11_cracked where they talk about needing to crack the disks. Did you need to use their menu application to be able to access the .zip files so that you couldn't just upload the .zip files to your local BBS or something? Goddamn pirates implementing their own copy protection :v:

Oh god yeah that's it!
The later ones didn't have anything to do with this release but the name 'Blobby' just became synonymous with pirate compilations here

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Moo the cow posted:

10 years from now scrapyards are going to be full of perfectly good cars that are unusable because the online server that controls everything no longer exists.

Sorry I don't have power brakes, I couldn't afford to keep paying the BMW subscription for them.

legooolas
Jul 30, 2004

Johnny Aztec posted:

I have a distinct memory of helping a friend convert songs to .WAV because his system wasn't fast enough to run MP3s.

Yes, that was a thing that could happen. A low Pentium 1 didn't have the clock cycles to decode a MP3.

Didn't that get fixed later when decoders using fixed-point maths instead of floating point, so it was all integer arithmetic and would work more quickly on processors with low performance or no FPU? I remember playing mp3s on a terrible Windows CE PDA when madplay was created, or something similar. Not 100% sure but I think that also worked fast enough on 486s too :)

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

This explains Brexit.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
They were grim times, they accidentally hit on something that became popular and ran it into the ground, they opened Blobby World which in itself quickly became failed and obsolete







It was not a good time

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
Here's a video on that theme park I ran across. As an American who had never heard of Mr. Blobby I was making this expression :psyduck: pretty much the whole way through the video when I first watched it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prr59WolXv4

Mr.Radar has a new favorite as of 17:20 on Sep 27, 2020

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I was a kid at the time and literally nobody wanted to go there, they got a fluke xmas number 1 song and ran with it, and no one else did lol

Edit: The idea behind Mr Blobby was sound, he was a bit part segment on a Saturday night shao that was popular, he was basically a fall guy who made celebs look stupid, he could get away with stuff like humiliating famous people, custard pies top the face, falling over, all that poo poo, but like I said they thought it was much much bigger than it really was or had any right to be, funny really

peter gabriel has a new favorite as of 18:30 on Sep 27, 2020

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

peter gabriel posted:

Edit: The idea behind Mr Blobby was sound, he was a bit part segment on a Saturday night shao that was popular, he was basically a fall guy who made celebs look stupid, he could get away with stuff like humiliating famous people, custard pies top the face, falling over, all that poo poo, but like I said they thought it was much much bigger than it really was or had any right to be, funny really

I'd say it went further than that: he was designed as the worst-possible character to be involved with.
It was part of Noel's 'hilarious' pranks where he would set up celebs in situations and Mr Blobby was created to be a 'oh christ, what is this poo poo?' character to wind them up.

They underestimated just how low the British TV-viewing public was and they accepted him as a real character.

E: I think this was his first appearance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7r7yKU22BA&t=1236s

Moo the cow has a new favorite as of 19:15 on Sep 27, 2020

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
I've only known Mr Blobby from this and I think it's probably representative of the average reaction to him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97fw8xjB5u4

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

flatluigi posted:

I've only known Mr Blobby from this and I think it's probably representative of the average reaction to him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97fw8xjB5u4

Yeah that was my introduction to Mr Blobby as well.

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

Wasabi the J posted:

Yeah that was my introduction to Mr Blobby as well.

Same -- and that still got a laugh from me. Poor Jack. Terrified. And that clip somehow explains everything about Mr. Blobby even if you have no clue what it's about.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

The blobby costume being slightly grubby and falling apart makes that much better.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
if I recall the shittiness of the costume was part of the bit originally. the prank victim would be told they were meeting with a super popular character and the blobby character would come out with a deliberately terrible costume and theme music and catchphrase. they're expecting mickey mouse and that pops out and then behaves inappropriately. of course this as-bad-as-possible character became hugely popular and successful.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Moo the cow posted:

10 years from now scrapyards are going to be full of perfectly good cars that are unusable because the online server that controls everything no longer exists.

Related topic: perfectly good video games that are unusable because a)the online server that controls everything* no longer exists or b)you lost the copy protection code book.

*multiplayer

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

LifeSunDeath posted:

My mom has a Victrola as well, it works too. Hers looks more like this one:

Pretty cool because the cabinet acts like a sub box and lets the sound resonate louder when you open it up.

I used to play with my great-grandma's Victrola back in 80's. She was long dead, but we had it in a closet on the farm. Holy crap they are loud without any electronic amplification. You just use the doors for volume. It didn't work initially when I was a kid but I figured out how to to fix it. It was just a problem with the mainspring. I liked to use a sewing needle and a cone made of paper to listen to old records. That way it wouldn't be so loud. I still have the 78's with recordings from my great-grandma from the 40's. She had a freaky high pitched voice and spoke like people did in movies at the time.

You have to be careful listening too much though. The old needles are heavy and eventually the record will play out and will be no good. Best to make an electronic copy and save the old records. That's what I did with my great-grandma's recorders. All you have to do is record them at 45 then speed them up to match a 78 for pitch if your turntable can't do 78.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

mostlygray posted:

I used to play with my great-grandma's Victrola back in 80's. She was long dead, but we had it in a closet on the farm. Holy crap they are loud without any electronic amplification. You just use the doors for volume. It didn't work initially when I was a kid but I figured out how to to fix it. It was just a problem with the mainspring. I liked to use a sewing needle and a cone made of paper to listen to old records. That way it wouldn't be so loud. I still have the 78's with recordings from my great-grandma from the 40's. She had a freaky high pitched voice and spoke like people did in movies at the time.

You have to be careful listening too much though. The old needles are heavy and eventually the record will play out and will be no good. Best to make an electronic copy and save the old records. That's what I did with my great-grandma's recorders. All you have to do is record them at 45 then speed them up to match a 78 for pitch if your turntable can't do 78.

Ours was purchased at some antique sale, and came with some old records like the waltz and poo poo. I DJ scratched the hell out of that record on there. Haven't messed with it in a long time since there's an antique slot machine that weighs a ton on top of it now.

rockinricky
Mar 27, 2003

mostlygray posted:



You have to be careful listening too much though. The old needles are heavy and eventually the record will play out and will be no good. Best to make an electronic copy and save the old records. That's what I did with my great-grandma's recorders. All you have to do is record them at 45 then speed them up to match a 78 for pitch if your turntable can't do 78.

Victrolas and other antique gramophones had a tracking force measured in OUNCES.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

mostlygray posted:

I used to play with my great-grandma's Victrola back in 80's. She was long dead, but we had it in a closet on the farm. Holy crap they are loud without any electronic amplification. You just use the doors for volume. It didn't work initially when I was a kid but I figured out how to to fix it. It was just a problem with the mainspring. I liked to use a sewing needle and a cone made of paper to listen to old records. That way it wouldn't be so loud. I still have the 78's with recordings from my great-grandma from the 40's. She had a freaky high pitched voice and spoke like people did in movies at the time.

You have to be careful listening too much though. The old needles are heavy and eventually the record will play out and will be no good. Best to make an electronic copy and save the old records. That's what I did with my great-grandma's recorders. All you have to do is record them at 45 then speed them up to match a 78 for pitch if your turntable can't do 78.

Other way around on those :eng101:

On old phonographs the needle is was got worn out, not the record. If you have old pre-50s 78s you absolutely should not listen to them on a modern record player or else you'll run the risk of literally destroy your pickup. Because the tracking force was so heavy as you mentioned, the records were manufactured with abrasives stuck in the material to wear out a soft steel needle because that was cheaper than wearing out the disc.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


ishikabibble posted:

Other way around on those :eng101:

On old phonographs the needle is was got worn out, not the record. If you have old pre-50s 78s you absolutely should not listen to them on a modern record player or else you'll run the risk of literally destroy your pickup. Because the tracking force was so heavy as you mentioned, the records were manufactured with abrasives stuck in the material to wear out a soft steel needle because that was cheaper than wearing out the disc.

Techmoan taught me that you could also control volume with the choice of needle, the thicker the needle, the louder the sound! He has a good info dump on all this in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYn7aZZBMRA

Wipfmetz
Oct 12, 2007

Sitzen ein oder mehrere Wipfe in einer Lore, so kann man sie ueber den Rand der Lore hinausschauen sehen.

Buttcoin purse posted:

I keep noticing stuff like https://archive.org/details/blobby11_cracked where they talk about needing to crack the disks. Did you need to use their menu application to be able to access the .zip files so that you couldn't just upload the .zip files to your local BBS or something? Goddamn pirates implementing their own copy protection :v:
Wasn't that partially done because they rolled their own compression and file structures?
I remember having to "unpack" games which seemed to unvolve converting jpegs to textures, mp3 to audio files (see: machines of that time wouldn`t have been able to run both mp3 audio AND the game itself) and maybe other stuff.

It`s all a bygone thing now that you can buy and download games within minutes through Steam or other stores.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Wipfmetz posted:

Wasn't that partially done because they rolled their own compression and file structures?
I remember having to "unpack" games which seemed to unvolve converting jpegs to textures, mp3 to audio files (see: machines of that time wouldn`t have been able to run both mp3 audio AND the game itself) and maybe other stuff.


Oh man I remember this. :allears: all while sweet sweet tracker music played.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I had to choose between playing Grand Theft Auto One, or listen to Fear Factory mp3s on Winamp with my Pentium75 with 16MB RAM.

Snackula
Aug 1, 2013

hedgefund wizard

Wipfmetz posted:

Wasn't that partially done because they rolled their own compression and file structures?
I remember having to "unpack" games which seemed to unvolve converting jpegs to textures, mp3 to audio files (see: machines of that time wouldn`t have been able to run both mp3 audio AND the game itself) and maybe other stuff.

It`s all a bygone thing now that you can buy and download games within minutes through Steam or other stores.

That's still a thing, repackers like Fitgirl will do stuff like re-encode video files for lower bitrates and rip out multi-lingual voice acting then compress it a lot more tightly than commercial releases tend to be and it usually saves gigabytes compared to the normal scene release, sometimes tens of gigabytes.

The drawback is that big boy compression like this takes serious CPU grunt to unpack so it's not unusual for the installer to just run for 45 minutes even on a beefy modern octa-core machine.

High Protein
Jul 12, 2009
I remember playing a version of Kingpin: Life of Crime that had been packed like that, the textures had been converted from tga to jpeg and back again, which meant things such as chain link fences now were no longer transparent but had black areas instead; enemies could shoot you through them but you couldn't see them.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

High Protein posted:

I remember playing a version of Kingpin: Life of Crime that had been packed like that, the textures had been converted from tga to jpeg and back again, which meant things such as chain link fences now were no longer transparent but had black areas instead; enemies could shoot you through them but you couldn't see them.

I had that version! I remember it took over an hour to install because it ran all the texture files through the jpeg2tga conversion program one by one. And then I think I played it once for about 15 minutes before realising that loads of swearing isn't enough to cover for the fact that the game was poo poo.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

CoolCab posted:

if I recall the shittiness of the costume was part of the bit originally. the prank victim would be told they were meeting with a super popular character and the blobby character would come out with a deliberately terrible costume and theme music and catchphrase. they're expecting mickey mouse and that pops out and then behaves inappropriately. of course this as-bad-as-possible character became hugely popular and successful.

I remember when I was 14 they tried to put him over in the US briefly, and I found the conceit hysterical, this hideous pink unit jumping all over Larry King

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Snackula posted:

That's still a thing, repackers like Fitgirl will do stuff like re-encode video files for lower bitrates and rip out multi-lingual voice acting then compress it a lot more tightly than commercial releases tend to be and it usually saves gigabytes compared to the normal scene release, sometimes tens of gigabytes.

The drawback is that big boy compression like this takes serious CPU grunt to unpack so it's not unusual for the installer to just run for 45 minutes even on a beefy modern octa-core machine.

The thing with Fitgirl is most are lossless, which when you see the amount of compression in the package - is quite amazing.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
You're walking alone in the woods, it's getting dark and your phone is dead. You look behind you and there you see



Mr. Blobby

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016

Eat a dick unicycle boy!
I have a need to drill some small holes to build a chicken coop

Old tools are very cheap and I don't like relying on electrons and batteries because I have strong memories about getting half way through a project and having batteries run out

I got these for 15 dollars and they should suffice for my job

and I have access to a work shop so I'm gunna make a new handle and an adaptor for a keyless chuck to mix the old and new

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Jestery posted:

I have a need to drill some small holes to build a chicken coop

Old tools are very cheap and I don't like relying on electrons and batteries because I have strong memories about getting half way through a project and having batteries run out

I got these for 15 dollars and they should suffice for my job

and I have access to a work shop so I'm gunna make a new handle and an adaptor for a keyless chuck to mix the old and new



Not obsolete if you work for the CIA. Read a book about how they be drilling holes in walls quietly with hand drills.

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