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Inspector Gesicht posted:The Spencer Mansion bit of RE3 is kind of shorter, though oddly most of the slow-paced areas are at the back. I want an RE game that starts with you waking up in a Lab and ends in civilization, in reverse of the formula. RE6 presents a vision for advancements in 3rd person action games that’s as revolutionary as RE4 was. It remains to be seen if anyone will capitalize on the achievements made therein.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:(Snip) The combat, with its focus on strategic limb shooting to set up melee attacks, is rad AF
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Sep 28, 2020 16:36
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september 28th. daylight.
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Sep 28, 2020 17:01
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Inspector Gesicht posted:
They suck. 5 is better than 6 but they're both pretty bad. 6 was the 1st game in the series I just flat out quit on and 5 was a slog. IMO, both Revelations games are superior.
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Sep 28, 2020 18:11
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I still like both games, especially 5, but they both suffer heavily from being coop focused.
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Sep 28, 2020 18:21
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5 is a decent 3rd person action game hamstrung by an annoying ai partner 6 built out the melee into a relatively in depth system with a bunch of moves but the game itself sucks pretty bad
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Sep 28, 2020 18:22
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5= very good, play it 6= I'd rather get an eyeball papercut than play it again
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Sep 28, 2020 18:28
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codo27 posted:5= very good, play it
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Sep 28, 2020 18:42
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5 is 4 but worse in every appreciable way, but still okay. 6 is a game with impossibly deep, counter-intuitive mechanics it never teaches you even the tiniest bit about, and has a slog of a campaign with awful setpieces that don't let said mechanics shine at all. I've heard Mercenaries can be fun if you can be damned to get that far? That's probably just Stockholm syndrome though; RE6 is a flop and should be skipped.
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Sep 28, 2020 18:43
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5 is very good with coop and I'm playing it for the sixth or seventh time with a new friend who's never played Resident Evil, it's a blast. People are absolutely right about the solo player AI partner though, the only time it's ever useful in the entire game is an on the rails shooting segment where it has nearly 100% accuracy and is killing enemies the second they spawn (It's also much easier to kill the boss with the AI in harder difficulties)
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Sep 28, 2020 18:43
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There's a lot of good bits in 6 but the game really does its best to hide them from you. If it wasn't a Resi game it would be regarded as a janky cult classic like Dragon's Dogma but here we are.
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Sep 28, 2020 18:54
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RE5 and 6 are both pretty dire solo games, though 5 is better than 6 in that regard. As co-op games, RE5 is one of the best of its generation and 6 has some real high highs and super low lows. RealFoxy posted:5 is very good with coop and I'm playing it for the sixth or seventh time with a new friend who's never played Resident Evil, it's a blast. People are absolutely right about the solo player AI partner though, the only time it's ever useful in the entire game is an on the rails shooting segment where it has nearly 100% accuracy and is killing enemies the second they spawn (It's also much easier to kill the boss with the AI in harder difficulties) Yeah, I didn't notice the snipers in the swamp level of RE5 until my second time through, because AI Sheva was killing them all as soon as they were in range. I remember wondering what the hell she was shooting at.
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Sep 28, 2020 20:06
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Sakurazuka posted:There's a lot of good bits in 6 but the game really does its best to hide them from you. If it wasn't a Resi game it would be regarded as a janky cult classic like Dragon's Dogma but here we are.
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Sep 28, 2020 23:00
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Yeah, RE5 is a fantastic co-op game, just not a good single player game. It's Mercenaries mode is also a lot better implemented than RE4's and was also pretty well supported. RE6's Mercenary Mode is fantastic but the game itself is a mix of genuinely good and shockingly terrible moments in single player or co-op.
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Sep 28, 2020 23:07
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I’m the weirdo who thinks RE6 is a great game and I highly recommend it. Even more fun if you can play with a friend.
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Sep 28, 2020 23:13
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RE6 is very fun if you approach it as MST3K The Game and just tell dumb jokes with your co-op partner everything time something stupid happens (this is every 30 seconds at most). I cannot recommend it enough as a co-op gam. I also could not hate it more as a solo game.
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Sep 29, 2020 00:00
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Couch co-op RE6 is amazing and I recommend it whole-heartedly. Everything about it very isn't.
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Sep 29, 2020 00:01
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RE5 is a insanely fun coop game with questionable partner AI. But the game gets insanely crazy towards the end. Like the last two chapters of it were so much fun for me.
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Sep 29, 2020 00:46
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As fun as it sounds, my issue is that I don't have anybody to join me for couch co-op, so I'll either have to do it single-player, or do online co-op once I get to RE5 and RE6.
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Sep 29, 2020 01:31
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its important to understand that RE6 isn't as bad as 90% of people will tell you, because everyone suggests that the best part of the game is the absolutely worst campaign and walk away from it assuming the game can't possibly be any good if that part is the best part (it isn't, get over it, it just has Leon it's very clearly the worst campaign by leaps and bounds)
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Sep 29, 2020 01:33
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The J'avo are definitely the better and more creative enemies over his lovely and boring zombies... otherwise, it's pretty much the distinction between "bad" and "slightly worse," though.
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Sep 29, 2020 01:39
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Online coop is fine if it’s someone you know. I couldn’t imagine doing RE5/6 with some random though.
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Sep 29, 2020 01:41
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the pacing in the game is bad in general but the pacing in the leon campaign is the worst, including the horrible forced slow walking in the very first section. plus basically everything from the mines through the catacombs is on par with the snowmobile section as some of the worst sections of the game.Kibayasu posted:Online coop is fine if it’s someone you know. I couldn’t imagine doing RE5/6 with some random though. yeah in my experience trying to play both with randoms its always some really impatient person who wants to do nothing but speed run the game because they've played every part 10,000 times on professional
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Sep 29, 2020 01:41
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rabidsquid posted:the pacing in the game is bad in general but the pacing in the leon campaign is the worst, including the horrible forced slow walking in the very first section. plus basically everything from the mines through the catacombs is on par with the snowmobile section as some of the worst sections of the game.
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Sep 29, 2020 01:43
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I enjoy the chaotic city parts and the giant fish part of the catacombs of Leon’s campaign.
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Sep 29, 2020 01:46
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rabidsquid posted:its important to understand that RE6 isn't as bad as 90% of people will tell you, because everyone suggests that the best part of the game is the absolutely worst campaign and walk away from it assuming the game can't possibly be any good if that part is the best part (it isn't, get over it, it just has Leon it's very clearly the worst campaign by leaps and bounds) No it's Ada, and the game is dogshit. There's LPs of it, people can just check out clips. It's a tedious cover shooter with very few interesting moments that runs about 20 hours longer than is acceptable for the amount of story they had to work with.
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Sep 29, 2020 02:01
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Kibayasu posted:I enjoy the chaotic city parts and the giant fish part of the catacombs of Leon’s campaign. the city is probably the best part of his campaign, but the part you spoilered is one of the many countless parts of the Leon campaign where Helena gets to just gently caress off and watch the other person play the game Mulva posted:No it's Ada, and the game is dogshit. There's LPs of it, people can just check out clips. It's a tedious cover shooter with very few interesting moments that runs about 20 hours longer than is acceptable for the amount of story they had to work with. the Ada part wasn't even a multiplayer campaign until they patched Hunk in, also its mercilessly shorter. also there are no parts of the game that are a cover shooter, although if you played Chris's campaign that way you would be really unhappy.
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Sep 29, 2020 02:02
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I didn't hate my RE6 experience but in not sure if I'll ever get the motivation to redownload it and play any more. For me it was a very "I've played every post-4 mainline game and I just want to fight some more zombies" playthrough, that's the main mindset in which I'd recommend it.
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Sep 29, 2020 02:06
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rabidsquid posted:the Ada part wasn't even a multiplayer campaign until they patched Hunk in, also its mercilessly shorter. also there are no parts of the game that are a cover shooter, although if you played Chris's campaign that way you would be really unhappy. If you aren’t running around meleeing everything to death you’re playing the game wrong.
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Sep 29, 2020 02:07
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RE5 just felt like bloated RE4 to me. Not bad, but the law of diminishing returns was setting in fast and I was personally a little queasy about punching tribesmen with my big American arms. RE6 just felt like Capcom inevitably not knowing or understanding what they've done correctly with RE4 and the series collapsing under it's own weight again and leaning hard into silly superhero global spy movie poo poo. At this rate, I expect RE IX to be a mess before the series is rebooted as an excellent bioweapon dating sim or something.
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Disco Pope posted:I expect RE IX to be a mess before the series is rebooted as an excellent bioweapon dating sim or something.
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Sep 29, 2020 12:08
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Linearity notwithstanding I think the biggest issue with REmake3 was they just cut far too much from the original game. The expansion of the hospital was nice but not enough to make up for the loss of the Clock Tower, Raccoon City Park and the Dead Factory. The final segment being a rehash of NEST didn’t help either. Nemesis himself was a let down. Admittedly having him pursue you the entire game like he does in Downtown would get exhausting after a time, but all his other appearances are scripted/cutscenes. Mr X in REmake2 is one of the best stalker/pursuer enemies there has ever been. He just needed a slight buff/retune for Nemesis. To be fair to the original while it was more linear than 1 or 2 in terms of pathing I think people forget the live selection choices that can make multiple play throughs very different each time.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Linearity notwithstanding I think the biggest issue with REmake3 was they just cut far too much from the original game. The expansion of the hospital was nice but not enough to make up for the loss of the Clock Tower, Raccoon City Park and the Dead Factory. The final segment being a rehash of NEST didn’t help either. Yeah, I like RE3 and will probably play it for a little while longer from a speed-run angle before I'm done with it, but it's never scary. I found RE2 pretty terrifying at times and a friend of mine had to quit playing because Mr X made her too anxious. The park or the dead factory might have been good places to lean into the horror a little more. Even Nemesis isnt that scary knowing that most of his appearances are canned, and you get the huge relief of never seeing him again as a stalker once Carlos hits RPD, about 50% through the game. You never feel like the odds are against you. I was firing Magnum rounds with abandon on my second playthrough and was fine.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Linearity notwithstanding I think the biggest issue with REmake3 was they just cut far too much from the original game. The expansion of the hospital was nice but not enough to make up for the loss of the Clock Tower, Raccoon City Park and the Dead Factory. The final segment being a rehash of NEST didn’t help either. Disco Pope posted:I found RE2 pretty terrifying at times and a friend of mine had to quit playing because Mr X made her too anxious. The park or the dead factory might have been good places to lean into the horror a little more. Even Nemesis isnt that scary knowing that most of his appearances are canned, and you get the huge relief of never seeing him again as a stalker once Carlos hits RPD But yes, even that wouldn't solve the basic structural problem of the game having very minimal decision-making vis-a-vis routes.
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There was a period of time where some (possibly falsified) leaks were suggesting that RE3 was going to be a loose and more experimental remake, and I was really hoping for the outside chance we might get something totally freeform where all you had to do was escape Raccoon while dynamic forces engaged each other in the streets.
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Sep 29, 2020 16:04
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I really like the idea of "we might do something interesting" as deliberate misinformation on Capcom's part.
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Sep 29, 2020 16:07
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The reason I was thinking it might be an open campaign was because some of the earliest leaked materials were, if I remember correctly, a map of Raccoon City that implied that you could plot your own route.
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Sep 29, 2020 16:25
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The most tense parts of 3make were the ones that didn't involve Nemesis at all which felt pretty backwards to me. It was like his reputation got too far away from him.
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Sep 29, 2020 17:54
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Justin_Brett posted:The most tense parts of 3make were the ones that didn't involve Nemesis at all which felt pretty backwards to me. It was like his reputation got too far away from him. yeah, when RE2R remake came out, i heard a lot of chatter about how if the new Mr. X was this bad, a new version of Nemesis would be able to come out of your screen and strangle you or whatever.
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Anonymous Robot posted:There was a period of time where some (possibly falsified) leaks were suggesting that RE3 was going to be a loose and more experimental remake, and I was really hoping for the outside chance we might get something totally freeform where all you had to do was escape Raccoon while dynamic forces engaged each other in the streets. If you absolutely have to preserve canon or whatever, then I guess the vaccine thing is important too, but even that doesn't have to include any specific location. The standard hospital location could just be one of many, with alternatives being picking up vaccines from doomed Umbrella scientists who get killed by Nikolai or whatever.
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