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This combination of JayZTwoCents videos is making the 3080FE look more and more attractive, even for an M1 case. I have a 240MM radiator against the side panel, but its as an intake so it the top exhaust of the FE shouldn't really effect much maybe mobo/RAM temperatures, which are usually not that much of a concern. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ4ha0zsWHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6bUUEEe-X8
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I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the whole SPCaps thing... the “good” cards are failing just as much as the “bad” cards https://twitter.com/hardwareunboxed/status/1309659834468298753?s=21 https://twitter.com/gamersnexus/status/1309838511374241797?s=21 GamersNexus set a record with a “bad” card, they pushed it on air, and on LN2, they didn’t see anything out of the ordinary. Steve says that either they got lucky or didn’t play the right games when testing all the cards. It might just be something driver related or boost clock related. It might not be down to the caps. It’s just way too early to tell. But Jay is right... If this is fixed it will be via software (vbios/driver/etc) Yes I know that EVGA did say they noticed this, and changed their caps.. but like I said it’s too early to tell and without anything concrete, we’re all just throwing poo poo against a wall to see what sticks.
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Warmachine posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8NXraJiJsU I'm real tempted with an Ncase or the CoolerMaster NR200 until the FormD P1 is real.
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That video inspired me to try undervolting. I could only get it stable at 1920 Mhz @ 950 mV, which ... did nothing for my temperatures but raised my RDR2 benchmark results by ... 1 fps average.
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Warmachine posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8NXraJiJsU Not seen in this video, but it seems like folks are getting pretty good results with the airflow layout on a lot of the Sliger sandwich cases too. Seems like the ghost is just especially bad, more than sandwiches are.
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Linus cold-hammers a 280mm AIO and a 3080 into a Sliger case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2s-q34FX7c
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Vir posted:Linus cold-hammers a 280mm AIO and a 3080 into a Sliger case: Well his part choices weren't bad. So my 3080 is installed, and things run. I had to downclock it a bit because I had two hard system locks in Ark, which I suspect was related to the clock instability issue. I need to do more troubleshooting here though, since there's a bunch of other things it could be including: too weak power supply, unstable processor overclock, game engine built with chewing gum and paperclips. I did decide to see what would happen if I firewalled the power consumption using OCCT's power consumption test. Power supply shut off immediately after the test started.  I'm regretting that I slept on the SF750 that briefly appeared on Amazon for MSRP last night.
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teagone posted:I really hate the YT thumbnail meta. Warmachine posted:Well his part choices weren't bad.
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Vir posted:It lacks an arrow, some big text and a face distortion to be peak YouTube thumbnail content. Eh, my Ncase is slightly bowing to accomodate my radiator, I'm sure it's fine. (I need better fittings, but I'm not rebuilding it until EK release a 3080 FE waterblock)
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I have the SM580. On Sligers website it says the H115 is difficult to fit. I have an NZXT 280mm in there with no issue at all. I believe all he had to do was slide the rad all the way to the back of the case so the nubs for the side panel didn't hit the radiator.
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Warmachine posted:Well his part choices weren't bad. He specifically uses literally one of the few AIO's that Sliger's webpage explicitly says "HEY, MAYBE DON'T USE THIS ONE IT DOESN'T FIT PROPERLY" quote:1x 280mm AIO or radiator
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Yeah, LTT is the Top Gear of techtubers. Unless Anthony is hosting the video, there's likely going to be some silliness.
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Gonna make a post talking through my motherboard thought process because I am dumb and often wrong about poo poo and would love to have the ways in which I am wrong pointed out to me so I can make a better decision. First pass criteria: AMD, capable of supporting Zen3 in a week, WIFI integrated, and a USB C header for my case port. Put another way, I’m looking at B550 boards because for whatever reason USB-C+ ITX + X570 isn’t a thing. The Gigabyte B550 is the best regarded, but lacks the USB C header so it’s out. The MSI 550i seems to have a poor reputation? I can’t really find anyone that actually recommended this board, and people have noted some really questionable layout choices. The ASRock Phantom Gaming Board appears to have the best performance, but runs kind of hot. It has the fastest USB as well, etc. it’d be the easy pick, BUT... no Bios flashback button is a potential dealbreaker if I do go with a new AMD CPU in a week. I don’t have another CPU I can just throw in there to do a bios upgrade ahead of time if needed. Or am I being a big dummy and inventing a concern that isn’t real? That leaves ASUS Strix board, about which I can’t find anyone saying much bad, but also, can’t find anyone saying much positive, and also it costs a lot more than the PG board. So, I guess my plan is grab the ASRock if I buy a current gen CPU, and the Strix if I buy something that gets released in a week? What horrible misstatements of facts have I committed here?
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CaptainPsyko posted:Gonna make a post talking through my motherboard thought process because I am dumb and often wrong about poo poo and would love to have the ways in which I am wrong pointed out to me so I can make a better decision. Isn't B550 supposed to support 4xxx out of the box?
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Warmachine posted:Isn't B550 supposed to support 4xxx out of the box? Support is guaranteed, (versus ‘extremely probably’ on b450) on B550/X570, but there’s still going to be a needed firmware update. Certainly new b550’s a few months (Or even weeks) from now are just gonna ship with said updated firmware, but I don’t trust existing retail channels enough to risk “well, gently caress, guess I need to find a spare cpu to update this mobo before I can use it”
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Anyone have experience with the new Ryzen mini PCs? PN50 entry level looks like the perfect thing to put together for my mum after her Dell Optiplex micro died. Only going to be used for web and light photo editing so it is either this or another refurb Dell which would be a bit cheaper but once bitten...
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CaptainPsyko posted:Gonna make a post talking through my motherboard thought process because I am dumb and often wrong about poo poo and would love to have the ways in which I am wrong pointed out to me so I can make a better decision. Posted this a while back: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/asus-b550i-strix.13522/page-4#post-205305 Also, similar reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/grusq0/compiled_b550_itx_motherboard_information/ Strix is kinda underwhelming while also the most expensive, so I'd probably go with MSI if you do need flashback.
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I was looking at maybe doing the EVGA step-up for the 3080 and came across this post with the FTW model and an Ncase M1: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/ncase-m1-v6-gpu-compatibility-list.11305/page-25#post-220723 It looks like he was able to remove the front panel, install the card, and replace the front panel. Anyone else with an ncase this might be a potential solution to not have to F5 for a card as long as you don't mind waiting for the Step up to complete.
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That Asus B550-I only has 3 USB ports (enough for keyboard, mouse, headset/speakers) on the rear IO, but for $20-30 more you could get 7 USB ports on their Strix X570-I board; the B550-I board makes no sense to me.
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denereal visease posted:That Asus B550-I only has 3 USB ports (enough for keyboard, mouse, headset/speakers) on the rear IO, but for $20-30 more you could get 7 USB ports on their Strix X570-I board; the B550-I board makes no sense to me. front I/O USB C tho.
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CaptainPsyko posted:front I/O USB C tho. Half the reason I went Intel over AMD right in this post.
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Front panel USB-C support is like the one box that the Strix B550-I checks vs the X570-I, but I never use front panel USB so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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For anyone who's been trying to get one, I was just able to actually order an sf750 from corsairs website. Who knows how long that'll last though.
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Nr200p case came back in stock where I am and I managed to snag one of the last 2, to be delivered next week. I don't have any components to put in it yet, they'll be purchased at the end of the year, but I'm very excited to be back in the PC game and building something totally opposite to my first (and last) build when I was a teenager and bigger = better so I bought some huge silver tower monstrosity. I was really tempted by some of the higher end SFF cases, specifically the ncase m1 as it's actually available with some regularity, but I figured as I haven't built a PC for years it would make more sense to get something a bit larger and more forgiving to build in then if I wanna shrink things down in the future I can do that whenever.
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I have the Ncase M1 but will be migrating my build over to the NR200 when my 3090 FE arrives, estimated delivery is tomorrow. The NR200 looks like a good case, just a larger version of the M1.
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For all two of you in the more money than sense category here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96rmIYG1fp4 Just in case you wanted to cram a 3090 in SFF.
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Thanks for the heads up, just grabbed an N200R off of Amazon. "Ncase M1 but bigger enough to be less of a pain in the rear end to work with" was pretty much exactly what I was looking for, and the only negatives I've seen were things like "it's 7 liters bigger it's not REALLY SFF" and "the materials are heavier" which I don't care at all about. Now I just need a dang ol 3080 to put in there
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denereal visease posted:And they decided to cool the 3950X with an NH-L9A Yeeeah, I replaced mine for a larger cooler (ID Cooling IS-60) in my node 202 because the nh-l9a wasn't great for a 3600, let alone a 3950x
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garfield hentai posted:Thanks for the heads up, just grabbed an N200R off of Amazon. "Ncase M1 but bigger enough to be less of a pain in the rear end to work with" was pretty much exactly what I was looking for, and the only negatives I've seen were things like "it's 7 liters bigger it's not REALLY SFF" and "the materials are heavier" which I don't care at all about. I just "downgraded" from a Streacom DA2 with a 280mm EVGA CLC on my 9900k that could not do 5ghz below 85c under any circumstance, and now in this thing it's barely at 78C and it took me a tenth of the time to build in. I've owned the following sff cases: Ncase M1 Dan Case A4 Cryorg Taku Evolv Shift Streacom DA2 and now the NR200R. And from an ease of build, this thing is above and beyond everyone else. If I could get this case in aluminium with less lovely looking mesh and better panel gap, I'd honestly pay $300 for it.
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I like the steel build of my NR200. Every time I see a black Ncase M1 it always looks greasy cause that thing is a fingerprint magnet
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HalloKitty posted:Yeeeah, I replaced mine for a larger cooler (ID Cooling IS-60) in my node 202 because the nh-l9a wasn't great for a 3600, let alone a 3950x Aww man, I also currently have a Node 202 and am considering a 3700X to upgrade, and the NH-L9a is my current cooler choice  Would sticking an intake fan onto the CPU vent help, as some build guides/videos I've seen seem to suggest?
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HappyCapybaraFamily posted:Aww man, I also currently have a Node 202 and am considering a 3700X to upgrade, and the NH-L9a is my current cooler choice Some guy replaced the CPU vent filter with a 140mm Noctua fan but it looked like it was holding on just the rubbery tabs through the vent mesh which might be a bit flimsy. Alternatively, there's a 3d printable duct model available for the NH-L9a so it gets fresh air instead of recycling GPU exhaust. Fwiw, I also got a LS-60 and replaced the fan with a low profile Noctua 120mm.
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HappyCapybaraFamily posted:Aww man, I also currently have a Node 202 and am considering a 3700X to upgrade, and the NH-L9a is my current cooler choice Don't get me wrong, it worked, and was OK, but it had to ramp up quite a bit, and I figured with a better heatsink I'd get a bit more boost headroom. Arzachel posted:Some guy replaced the CPU vent filter with a 140mm Noctua fan but it looked like it was holding on just the rubbery tabs through the vent mesh which might be a bit flimsy. Alternatively, there's a 3d printable duct model available for the NH-L9a so it gets fresh air instead of recycling GPU exhaust. Yeah, I also have the Noctua on mine, I didn't consider using the fan that came with it. Shame the mounting hardware on the IS-60 isn't anywhere near as nice as the Noctua NH-L9a, but it performs better. Back to the NH-L9a duct suggestion; 3D printable ducts are a bit over the top - when looking at the NH-L9a packaging, I was inspired - the foam insert in the box of course has a 92mm square cutout, and. It happens to have enough thickness to bridge the gap between the fan on the NH-L9a and the side of the Node 202. Just cut off some of the excess with some scissors, and it fits. No 3D printing needed, one perfectly fitting custom duct for free. It is a good idea, because it stops hot air recycling. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Oct 5, 2020 |
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Looks like somebody was able to cleanly deshroud an MSI 3080 Ventus and put it in an M1, but they got kinda of lovely results. Also found what is allegedly a deshrouded 3080 TUF in an M1, but there's no data associated with it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADgZXh_p_NA Silverstone you had one job with updating the SG-13 
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I'd like some advice for cooling in my nr200p build, which will be a 3700X with a FUMA 2 and a 3070 or 3080. I don't care a huge amount about peak optimum thermals/noise but if I need to poke around and adjust fan curves or whatever and it won't be too complicated I'm happy to do that. Basically I want a solution that's fairly simple and I can just leave it to do its thing once I've set everything up. I'm not interested in AIOs initially although I got the nr200 because there's plenty of scope if I decide I want to gently caress around with that in the future. At the moment I'm planning on installing the GPU in the standard layout, with the two preinstalled fans at the top as exhaust and buying two Noctua A12x25 fans to install at the bottom as intake. I'll use the ventilated side panel because I'm not interested in any RGB stuff or seeing the innards, unless someone tells me the glass panel is much better for thermals or noise. Can other people with this case tell me if that's gonna be good enough, or is there some other setup that's much better?
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