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gret
Dec 12, 2005

goggle-eyed freak


Cygni posted:

i openly root for marco now. he sucks, sure, but without him there is 1 less car on the grid (this is not an exaggeration, the US Concrete deal is only because of him personally) and he is friends with Ice T who is the best Twitter user.

tbh in race 1 this weekend, he was running top 10 until his car exploded. dude has had zero luck this year on top of his regular lack of ability.

Really? From the article I'm reading the Chairman/CEO of US Concrete grew up next door to the Andrettis and they've been life long family friends, and it was Michael that called him to set up the sponsorship.

https://www.mcall.com/business/mc-biz-us-concrete-bill-sandbrook-sponsor-marco-andretti-20190524-5wwppr6wszekdfc4ddf5usg74y-story.html

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Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

gret posted:

Really? From the article I'm reading the Chairman/CEO of US Concrete grew up next door to the Andrettis and they've been life long family friends, and it was Michael that called him to set up the sponsorship.

https://www.mcall.com/business/mc-biz-us-concrete-bill-sandbrook-sponsor-marco-andretti-20190524-5wwppr6wszekdfc4ddf5usg74y-story.html

Yeah, supposedly he wanted to support an Andretti specifically and directly. The deal with Marco co-owning the car was tied to the sponsor wanting a guarantee he would be the driver.

For their b2b purposes, it makes sense I guess. They don't really care if they finish last, being able to wine/dine clients and have their driver be "Andretti" probably has value.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind
https://twitter.com/IndyLights/status/1313887112551432197

Highlights/changes/improvements:

- Dallara IL-15s getting titanium halos (good)

- Indy Lights scholarship awarded to the Formula Regional Americas (F3 Americas) champ, Linus Lindqvist of Sweden (who won all but 2 races this year)

- Both Kyle Kirkwood (Andretti) and the 2020 Pro 2000 champ (Sting Ray Robb of Juncos, more than likely) are both coming to Lights with Pro 2000 advancement scholarships

- Top 3 in Lights championship guaranteed Indycar tests at Indy after the season

- Lights champ scholarship upped from $1 million to $1.25 million, still guaranteeing 3 Indycar races with the Indy 500

No clue on car counts or schedule yet.

hunnert car pileup
Oct 28, 2007

the first world was a mistake

quote:

No clue on car counts or schedule yet.

quote:

- Indy Lights scholarship awarded to the Formula Regional Americas (F3 Americas) champ, Linus Lindqvist of Sweden (who won all but 2 races this year)

- Both Kyle Kirkwood (Andretti) and the 2020 Pro 2000 champ (Sting Ray Robb of Juncos, more than likely) are both coming to Lights with Pro 2000 advancement scholarships

probably just those 3 :v:

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

Given the prizes are for the top 3, probably.

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.
Oof, as I feared, Askew is out at the end of the season.

https://arrowmclarensp.com/2020/10/...20155I-6n0njI-o

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

Reynold posted:

Oof, as I feared, Askew is out at the end of the season.

https://arrowmclarensp.com/2020/10/...20155I-6n0njI-o

Sad, I'd understand him hanging up his helmet now though, apparently the indy crash left him pretty concussed

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Yeah, not a surprise but a shame none the less. He really needs another/better shot.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Reynold posted:

Oof, as I feared, Askew is out at the end of the season.

https://arrowmclarensp.com/2020/10/...20155I-6n0njI-o

sounds like his career has gone askew

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/castroneves-announce-2021-plans-within-month/4891123/

Interesting timing with the Askew announcement. I know SPAM has been clear on wanting a high caliber vet, but all of the rumors were around Pagenaud until now.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I know it hasn't exactly been a great year for Sipag, but is he really that close to the chopping block for Penske? I thought adding McLaughlin was just going to be jumping to four cars since the IMSA team isn't going to have anything to do now.

What other free agents would be interesting to Penske?

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

IOwnCalculus posted:

I know it hasn't exactly been a great year for Sipag, but is he really that close to the chopping block for Penske? I thought adding McLaughlin was just going to be jumping to four cars since the IMSA team isn't going to have anything to do now.

What other free agents would be interesting to Penske?

Checo?

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

IOwnCalculus posted:

I know it hasn't exactly been a great year for Sipag, but is he really that close to the chopping block for Penske? I thought adding McLaughlin was just going to be jumping to four cars since the IMSA team isn't going to have anything to do now.

What other free agents would be interesting to Penske?

The rumor for like 3 years was that he was always imminently signing with McLaren and/or already signed with them, even before they started sponsoring SPM.

Pruett does seem to think ScottyMac is a new 4th car, so thats probably good news for both Simon and Will honestly. Although Penske expanding does raise some leader circle questions.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

Cygni posted:

Although Penske expanding does raise some leader circle questions.

Penske owns Indycar

Penske controls Leaders Circle payouts

Penske adds 4th full time car to get Leaders Circle payouts

????


PROFIT

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

WindyMan posted:

Penske owns Indycar

Penske controls Leaders Circle payouts

Penske adds 4th full time car to get Leaders Circle payouts

????


PROFIT

Or as I’ve heard in my company, “left pocket to right pocket.”

Askew hopefully can heal up and get another crack at IndyCar, but wouldn’t be surprised if that opening at AMSP is filled by Helio, Checo if he wants to leave F1, or hell Hulkenberg in that case too. SiPag leaving Penske would cause a much bigger reshuffle though that could also be Helio or JPM coming back in for one year or so (until Penske shrinks back down and gets another sports car program).

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
I see very little upside in hiring HCN at this point.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


Frond posted:

I see very little upside in hiring HCN at this point.

Pretty sure Zak just wants to win the 500 and Helio just wants a full-time ride so it makes some sense.

PotatoJudge
May 22, 2004

Tell me about the rabbits, George
Not sure if this has been posted here yet, but Homefield Apparel, who has some high quality college T-shirts, hoodies, etc for a ton of schools got an order for shirts for the 500. Sadly, the design had the original race date on them. They're selling those off for $30 with proceeds going to an Indianapolis charity helping out folks in the hospitality industry.

https://www.homefieldapparel.com/pr...&pr_seq=uniform

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

PotatoJudge posted:

Not sure if this has been posted here yet, but Homefield Apparel, who has some high quality college T-shirts, hoodies, etc for a ton of schools got an order for shirts for the 500. Sadly, the design had the original race date on them. They're selling those off for $30 with proceeds going to an Indianapolis charity helping out folks in the hospitality industry.

https://www.homefieldapparel.com/pr...&pr_seq=uniform

Amazing. Since I had tickets and was gonna go, I feel like I am allowed to buy one. Thanks for the link!

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

https://racer.com/2020/10/13/oward-signs-new-deal-with-amsp/

Pato got an extension. 1 year deal, which was probably smart of Pato's agent to do considering the number of eyes that have been on him from Ganassi and Andretti and everyone else. If he runs well next year again, dudes gonna get paid.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

https://racer.com/2020/10/13/rosenqvist-set-for-amsp-switch-in-2021/

Rosenqvist to AMSP in Askew’s seat next year. So what happens with that Ganassi seat? Checo?

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

harperdc posted:

https://racer.com/2020/10/13/rosenqvist-set-for-amsp-switch-in-2021/

Rosenqvist to AMSP in Askew’s seat next year. So what happens with that Ganassi seat? Checo?

holy poo poo, jimmy gonna run the #10 full season aint he

e: just remembered that Chip didn't exercise Felix's option earlier this year and now was trying to extend him late in the year. probably a mistake tbh

Cygni fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Oct 14, 2020

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
Whoa that's out of left field

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
I think Ganassi dropped the ball. Felix has been good, if not great. However, who do you replace him with now? Palou?

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

Frond posted:

I think Ganassi dropped the ball. Felix has been good, if not great. However, who do you replace him with now? Palou?

Jommie Jihnson

Banzai 3
May 8, 2007
I'm only here for the weekly 24 bitchfest.
Pillbug

PotatoJudge posted:

Not sure if this has been posted here yet, but Homefield Apparel, who has some high quality college T-shirts, hoodies, etc for a ton of schools got an order for shirts for the 500. Sadly, the design had the original race date on them. They're selling those off for $30 with proceeds going to an Indianapolis charity helping out folks in the hospitality industry.

https://www.homefieldapparel.com/pr...&pr_seq=uniform

Thanks for posting this as I’m ending up with a cool shirt thanks to you!

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

No Freedom 100 next year, silly. Apparently an IndyCar decision.

https://racer.com/2020/10/22/road-to-indy-reveals-2021-calendars/

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





That's some bullshit.

Assuming the next 500 actually happens with fans, and that I feel comfortable traveling there to watch it, this is making me strongly rethink whether I go to Carb Day.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
now that the month of may "aint what it used to be" I thought the freedom 100 was really important for having more things going on leading up to the 500, that sucks

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Scotty Mac official for next year, and officially a 4 car operation. Also ending their Supercars "partnership" which iirc was really just a cross branding deal.

https://twitter.com/Team_Penske/status/1319790738679488513

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Cygni posted:

Scotty Mac official for next year, and officially a 4 car operation. Also ending their Supercars "partnership" which iirc was really just a cross branding deal.

https://twitter.com/Team_Penske/status/1319790738679488513

could be Penske as much helping out DJR and keeping the lights on while also providing some sponsor money (Shell is a major partner of the truck rental business apparently, hence the sponsorships for Penske's racing) but yeah with GM pulling the plug on the Holden brand in total in Australia, Supercars is likely to be impacted pretty big going forward.

I think it's been discussed but both Penske and Chip Ganassi are using staff and drivers that otherwise would be in sports cars in IndyCar for these bigger operations, so glad McLaughlin is getting the shot officially and full-time. Hopefully CGR doesn't drop to three cars and picks somebody up for the 10 car fully.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Vroom vroom alert, St Pete quals on in a few minutes.

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.
Well that was a mess with all those penalties.

Will Power is 5 pole positions away from Mario Andretti. He made 5 this year alone. I wonder if he can beat the record in 2021, maybe 2022, or if he runs out of time at Penske and gets bounced before his time like Castronevez or Montoya.

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

hinch...............................

bennyfactor
Nov 21, 2008
The pace car ran out of gas!

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.
This was a good race. People are mad on the internet at Sato, but honestly, throwing Marco into the tires and costing his team a million dollars was hilarious. Hinch, Daly, Power, and Rossi all wrecking themselves was clown shoes as well. Not sure what Herta's deal was, he had to use the runoff area like twice and took himself out of contention. It's been a wild season, and I'm glad Indycar was able to pull it off.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno

Reynold posted:

This was a good race. People are mad on the internet at Sato, but honestly, throwing Marco into the tires and costing his team a million dollars was hilarious. Hinch, Daly, Power, and Rossi all wrecking themselves was clown shoes as well. Not sure what Herta's deal was, he had to use the runoff area like twice and took himself out of contention. It's been a wild season, and I'm glad Indycar was able to pull it off.

This Is A Good Post

CactusWeasle
Aug 1, 2006
It's not a party until the bomb squad says it is
It was almost as clownshoes as Toronto 2011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPDXyTPzHzQ

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Ah yes, the race that proved you can say "wanker" on US TV.

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Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

credit where credit is due for Marco:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CGz8ps6HbNO/

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