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eschaton posted:they should do a few releases where they run a temporary transparent filesystem change as part of the update process so they can collect telemetry on any failures, before upgrading all their users wtf? They aren't going to upgrade anybody. What the hell are you talking about?
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ratbert90 posted:wtf? They aren't going to upgrade anybody. What the hell are you talking about? yeah, this is not like Apple going from hfs+ to apfs it would be pretty wild if they had upgrade-in-place for xfs or ext4 to btrfs
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starbucks hermit posted:yeah, this is not like Apple going from hfs+ to apfs btrfs can do this. transactionally, even. please do not take this as an endorsement of btrfs though, btrfs is poo poo.
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no its not, it owns
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If it's good enough for red hat it's good enough for me tbh
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It wasn't good enough for them when they added it as technical preview in RHEL 6 then removed it in RHEL 8.
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they bet on that stratis thingie which went nowhere fast good on them that they'll right that wrong now
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spankmeister posted:If it's good enough for red hat it's good enough for me tbh
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Sapozhnik posted:btrfs can do this. transactionally, even. btrfs claims it can do this? which is different from things btfs actually does
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Btrfs' in-place ext4 conversion thing worked well for me. Don't know what OP means by "transactionally" in this scenario though e: I suppose if the switcheroo on the first 1MB is atomic then the conversion either works or doesn't if interrupted. If OP is referring to that then it's true Rufus Ping fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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starbucks hermit posted:Red Hat is working their btrfs off
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spankmeister posted:If it's good enough for red hat it's good enough for me tbh hell yeah putting everything into glusterfs right now
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Progressive JPEG posted:hell yeah putting everything into glusterfs right now loading my entire desktop into a pod on openshift
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 That's right, ladies and gentlemen, after nineteen and a half years of semiannual GNOME 3 releases, you can rearrange items in the "start" menu equivalent AND restart your device without using the shell or the equivalent of registry hacking. THE FUTURE IS NOW.
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why is being able to do something without using the shell a big deal? we’re talking about linux here, I assumed we all live in the shell anyway
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why would you use the app grid when it has a search interface? this isn’t Windows, when you mash the Windows key or ram the mouse cursor into the corner and type the name of the program and press Enter, you get the program, not some Bing results page
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pseudorandom name posted:why would you use the app grid when it has a search interface? it's ubuntu, i think you literally do get amazon search results when you search for apps
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Sassafras posted:after nineteen and a half years of semiannual GNOME 3 releases gnome 3 predates gnome 2
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pseudorandom name posted:why would you use the app grid when it has a search interface? touchscreens?
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nobody’s using gnome3 as a touchscreen interface
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Rufus Ping posted:Btrfs' in-place ext4 conversion thing worked well for me. Don't know what OP means by "transactionally" in this scenario though you actually can undo it, the conversion process leaves behind a sparse file (in a read-only subvolume) that points to all of the ext4 data and metadata, that can be used to turn the disk back to ext4, all of the data that you have written which is not referenced by the ext4 fs is unaccessable/destroyed after converting back though of course there were some discussions the last year or two about this process not working so well with recent changes to the btrfs code/disk layout though, i think that was fixed but "convert in-place from ext4" is not really seen as that important a feature anymore e: you can undo the conversion unless/until you delete the "ext4 filesystem data" subvolume to reclaim that space Lysidas fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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Soricidus posted:nobody’s using gnome3 as a touchscreen interface i used to 
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pseudorandom name posted:why would you use the app grid when it has a search interface? in 99.9% of my experience that's what you get on windows 10 as well sometimes it gets a bit confused if you "overtype" something you frequently open (eg. "vis" "visu" visua" and "visual" get you "visual studio code" but "visual s" gets you "visual studio 2017") but has a common partial name with something else but I'm going to chalk that up to lovely awful ~*machine learning*~ bullshit
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Also the visual way to reboot is to click the power icon and then three options pop up: power off, logout, and restart. I guess the Gnome team thought a dedicated reboot button was easier?
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ratbert90 posted:Also the visual way to reboot is to click the power icon and then three options pop up: power off, logout, and restart. I guess the Gnome team thought a dedicated reboot button was easier? This way people are way more likely to accidentally hit it on the server that has a gui for some reason
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Soricidus posted:nobody’s using gnome3 as a touchscreen interface tell that to the gnome team lol, they keep pouring nontrivial effort into making all of their app interfaces scale to phone screens
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carry on then posted:tell that to the gnome team lol, they keep pouring nontrivial effort into making all of their app interfaces scale to phone screens and to make sure they're as obnoxious as possible to use with a mouse
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I thought Red Hat dropped support for butter in version 8. https://access.redhat.com/documenta...nality_in_rhel7 quote:Btrfs has been deprecated
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just getting ready to come back in rhel10 obvs
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Penguissimo posted:and to make sure they're as obnoxious as possible to use with a mouse shh, they might take it as a challenge
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PCjr sidecar posted:just getting ready to come back in rhel10 obvs drat some PM is awfully ambitious, making a 30 year roadmap like that
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Nomnom Cookie posted:drat some PM is awfully ambitious, making a 30 year roadmap like that i don’t know what weapons ww3 will be fought with but i do know that ww4s logistics will be run on rhel on ibm z
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PCjr sidecar posted:i don’t know what weapons ww3 will be fought with but i do know that ww4s logistics will be run on rhel on ibm z openshift on rhcos on z/arch
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PCjr sidecar posted:i don’t know what weapons ww3 will be fought with but i do know that ww4s logistics will be run on rhel on ibm z
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PCjr sidecar posted:i don’t know what weapons ww3 will be fought with but i do know that ww4s logistics will be run on rhel on ibm z lol
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e-dt posted:it's ubuntu, i think you literally do get amazon search results when you search for apps Not if you use a good desktop (MATE)
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:Not if you use a good desktop (CDE)
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no true good desktop
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infernal machines posted:no true good desktop
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