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Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1298631201373249536

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Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch


are these new impermissible payments or are they part of the simmons investigation

either way big ups to former vcu head coach will wade for his criminal empire of actually paying basketball players for their effort

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
Hero of the people Will Wade.

This seems bad

https://twitter.com/DavidEickholt/status/1298663740745949184?s=19

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Well, half the team should be recovered and immune for most the preseason, silver lining!

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




https://twitter.com/damien_alameda/status/1299181362604244994?s=20

Vertical Lime
Dec 11, 2004

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1300395294933254144?s=21

elentar
Aug 26, 2002

Every single year the Ivy League takes a break from fucking up the world through its various alumni to fuck up everyone's bracket instead.
Rowing is a good, solid sport and it's fantastic that non-white athletes are getting recognized and yet at the same time this just feels like a tremendous missed opportunity for the sport of basketball as a whole https://twitter.com/SJUHawks_MRow/status/1300508962186506241?s=20

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
His dad must be so torn. On one hand, your child is a high level scholarship athlete. On the other, you clearly had something other than rowing in mind.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
https://twitter.com/sdutzeigler/status/1301993679649873920?s=19

Good move

elentar
Aug 26, 2002

Every single year the Ivy League takes a break from fucking up the world through its various alumni to fuck up everyone's bracket instead.
So this sure is something: https://twitter.com/Sportico/status/1303400562516545538?s=20

I'm sure it's being talked about elsewhere but for basketball in particular it just seems the moral hazard of doing this is enormous, point shaving is pretty difficult to prove at the best of times and you're doing this in an industry where the actual workers make no money and could have their futures ended at any moment.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?

elentar posted:

So this sure is something: https://twitter.com/Sportico/status/1303400562516545538?s=20

I'm sure it's being talked about elsewhere but for basketball in particular it just seems the moral hazard of doing this is enormous, point shaving is pretty difficult to prove at the best of times and you're doing this in an industry where the actual workers make no money and could have their futures ended at any moment.

Does the school getting a sponsorship really change the incentive of spots betters to try to pay off players to shave points though? Like it sucks that players don't get a cut of everything but sports gambling was a massive business whether or not Colorado has an Official Partner

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Is it possible to prove point shaving if the participants aren't taking notes on a criminal conspiracy? Trying to prove a dude is missing shots intentionally seems impossible

Vertical Lime
Dec 11, 2004

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1303697045405020161

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1303697378306928640

elentar
Aug 26, 2002

Every single year the Ivy League takes a break from fucking up the world through its various alumni to fuck up everyone's bracket instead.
Oh my god it’s my childhood, just making brackets to fit them all in somehow.

Katz opting to be a whiny bitch about it https://twitter.com/theandykatz/status/1303703667858706437?s=21

elentar fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Sep 9, 2020

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Unironically I would be very happy with an Every Team tournament as a one of.

*More basketball is always good
*April and May Madness in particular would own
*Gives smaller schools some revenue
*A 32 seed taking a 1 seed into half time as a close game would be cool

The only drawback would be the end of the Never Made The Tournament Club, but we could just exempt this year from that.

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
I will accept Kansas losing to Iona in the first round or whatever if it means Mizzou somehow losing to Phoenix University.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
It's dumb but in the way that will probably be really good.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




so it's probably going to be like the FA Cup, with better schools maybe entering in later rounds.

i can go for it.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




How many games would an all D1 tourney need. Can the regular season be replaced by nothing but a mega tourney?

elentar
Aug 26, 2002

Every single year the Ivy League takes a break from fucking up the world through its various alumni to fuck up everyone's bracket instead.

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

How many games would an all D1 tourney need. Can the regular season be replaced by nothing but a mega tourney?

For single elimination it’s always X-1 where X is the total number of teams. Kenpom lists 353 for last year, can’t imagine any are adding, dunno if any are dropping or probation plays into it, but around 340-350 games maybe?

spanky69
Nov 5, 2004
I THINK sba HAS LOST HIS MIND. WOOOOOO DOGGIES PUPPIES KITTENS CRAP TURDS, love sba
Fun Shoe
Play-in games would need to get it from 353 to 256

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

this is such a transparent attempt to recoup the lost money from last season's ncaa tourney by shoving it all into as short a time period as possible before a second wave of coronavirus hits

but

it's so fuckin cool god drat

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

also they specified "a" ncaa tournament and not "the" ncaa tournament, so i have a feeling they're double dipping

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 11 days!)

a big congratulations to NJIT, Kennesaw State, Stetson, North Alabama, Hartford, UMass-Lowell, New Hampshire, Maine, Sacramento State, High Point, Presbyterian, Longwood, SC-Upstate, Cal-Riverside, William & Mary, Elon, Youngstown State, Quinnipiac, Bethune-Cookman, Maryland-Eastern Shore, St Francis (NY), Sacred Heart, Bryant, Merrimack, Tennessee-Martin, Southern Illinois-Edwardsville, THE US ARMY ACADEMY, The Citadel, Central Arkansas, Incarnate Word, South Dakota, Denver, Purdue-Fort Wayne, Omaha, Western Illinois, Grambling, Utah Valley, Grand Canyon, Texas-Rio Grand Valley (aka UTRGV), Kansas City (formerly UMKC), Chicago State, California Baptist

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Create 32 groups of 11 teams and do round robins. Top two teams go to a 64 team tournament. One pod would need to have 12 teams to get to 353. They can have the 2 and 3 teams do a play in for the final spot.

Kim Jong Il
Aug 16, 2003
I don't understand Geo Baker making all conference, and I am worried Rutgers will underachieve this year without its home court advantage, which is the starkest in the country IMO.

Baker is fine, I get that it's reward for being expected for the team to be good this year. And I think his numbers were depressed last year a little by injury, he was very good down the stretch and is a good crunch time player. But he is the definition of a volume scorer if there ever was one.

Ron Harper is better, and Myles Johnson is better on a per rate basis but fouls too much.

whos that broooown
Dec 10, 2009

2024 Comeback Poster of the Year
Free Ohio State transfer team, imo

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
Gimme dat Evansville-UCI championship game.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

N:A former UK Tubby Smith player is about to get another NBA ring alongside the first Calipari player from UK to get a ring. I'm pretty sure no former UK players under Pitino ever won as a player?


V:Tubby Smith was obviously the best UK coach of his generation.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

tadashi posted:

N:A former UK Tubby Smith player is about to get another NBA ring alongside the first Calipari player from UK to get a ring. I'm pretty sure no former UK players under Pitino ever won as a player?


V:Tubby Smith was obviously the best UK coach of his generation.

Antoine Walker was on the 06 Heat

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
https://twitter.com/TheAthleticCBB/status/1314376927172595714

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch


i don’t have the athletic but i assume it’s the bad abusive kind of misconduct and not the cool player paying misconduct?

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?

Declan MacManus posted:

i don’t have the athletic but i assume it’s the bad abusive kind of misconduct and not the cool player paying misconduct?

Yeah. Physically and verbally abusing players, staff, and random students. Can't imagine how he survives this, aside from the obvious reason that he wins a lot, but even that's less true now.

elentar
Aug 26, 2002

Every single year the Ivy League takes a break from fucking up the world through its various alumni to fuck up everyone's bracket instead.

MourningView posted:

Yeah. Physically and verbally abusing players, staff, and random students. Can't imagine how he survives this, aside from the obvious reason that he wins a lot, but even that's less true now.

Whoever would have suspected that the guy who is an enormous rear end in a top hat to every single person around him is also an enormous rear end in a top hat to his own players

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1314413468158701569?s=19

Yikes.

I do like that this was apparently sort of an open secret and the only thing that ever came of it until now was vague whispers about the real reason he couldn't get a major conference job. I'm sure knowing he wasn't at indiana or whatever making even more money was a comfort to the kid he was choking

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

The only way discipline can be instilled via coaching is by physical assault, not by teaching, because....

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Declan MacManus posted:

i don’t have the athletic but i assume it’s the bad abusive kind of misconduct and not the cool player paying misconduct?

Here's a link that I don't think is paywalled if you want to read about it.

e: Ha, ok.

quote:

Following the incident [where he punched a player], Morris and multiple other players said that team leader Fred VanVleet, currently with the NBA’s Toronto Raptors, told an assistant the players would not practice the following day unless Marshall apologized to Morris.

“He comes down in the film room and says, ‘First off, I just want to apologize to you and he pointed at me. Then he said, “We good? We good? We good? All right, let’s move on.”

Nothing like a heartfelt apology.

Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Oct 9, 2020

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova
That story is structured in a way where you go "Wow, this is insanely bad" for 25 paragraphs and then you get to the part where you learn the kid who got punched had cried while telling Marshall his mom had cancer earlier that day

FartingBedpost
Aug 24, 2015





I can’t even say I’m shocked that Wichita St allowed this environment to thrive. :smith:

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Wiltsghost
Mar 27, 2011


Gregggg Marshall is complete loving garbage.

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