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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Why vote for us you ask? Well if you do we might talk about implementing social programs that help the general population. Not implement, just talk, since implementing is a step too far.

this is canadian politics as well

but our conservatives vacillate between overt xenophobia and bigotry, and understanding that many new immigrants and the more socially accepted LG folks are exactly as conservative as they are.

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Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



the centrists are worthless as well because centrism is conservatism for cowards

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


power botton posted:

thats not really true. Biden has multiple times, including in the first debate, explicitly said that he will not entertain any of that malarky.

vote for us and next cycle we might give your desires lip service

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
impressively lovely takes over the past page 'n' change

why do the pragmatic thing when you could just say yes to inertia

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Kazinsal posted:

the centrists are worthless as well because centrism is conservatism for cowards

correct, and not voting is mathematically equivalent to conservatism

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

psiox posted:

correct, and not voting is mathematically equivalent to conservatism

who are you gonna vote for

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Voting for Allah, only under his guidance will the US set on a path of righteousness.

Inshallah

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Cold on a Cob posted:

pretty much same and same, gently caress cancer

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

i'm the biggest bernie bro there is and i'm still voting for joe biden because i will do my loving part (ugh) to keep the country marginally better than it is now. like i did in 2016 voting for hillary (ugh ugh). even though in san francisco my vote makes no difference whatsoever to how the state is gonna go.

that said, if bernie told me to write in his name, i'd do it in a heartbeat

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

fart simpson posted:

who are you gonna vote for

lowtax

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Sagebrush posted:

i'm the biggest bernie bro there is and i'm still voting for joe biden because i will do my loving part (ugh) to keep the country marginally better than it is now. like i did in 2016 voting for hillary (ugh ugh). even though in san francisco my vote makes no difference whatsoever to how the state is gonna go.

that said, if bernie told me to write in his name, i'd do it in a heartbeat

if bernie told you to jump off a bridge would you do it

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

your making yourself feel bad and selling out you’re ideals for no reason. vote for howie or gloria

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

bernie would never tell anyone to hurt themselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-N0OsLJa2U

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Bernie's biggest character flaw is that he is too nice. He's literally campaigning for biden harder than biden has ever campaigned.

The ultimate dem.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Sagebrush posted:

i'm the biggest bernie bro there is and i'm still voting for joe biden because i will do my loving part (ugh) to keep the country marginally better than it is now. like i did in 2016 voting for hillary (ugh ugh). even though in san francisco my vote makes no difference whatsoever to how the state is gonna go.

that said, if bernie told me to write in his name, i'd do it in a heartbeat

Haha, yeah, the guy who flies a private plane that sprays leaded gas fumes all over the fuckin place, poisoning people and their children and homes, is definitely a Bernie bro with a deep understanding of socialism

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


*shits in the dinner pot* I’m such a socialist

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


i voted for biden but i’m not gonna judge anyone who doesn’t

i’ll judge the gently caress out of you for voting trump

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

PIZZA.BAT posted:

i voted for biden but i’m not gonna judge anyone who doesn’t

i’ll judge the gently caress out of you for voting trump

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


i live in a very blue state so it doesn't really matter, I might vote Biden or write in bernie or waste it on green party again. eh

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


im voting for biden because i really cant find it in me to think another 4 years of trump is somehow better than 4 years under biden. that's it, that's my entire decision making process, and imho is all that's at stake on this particular ballot (minus statewide and local races ofc).

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
its friday and you know what that means

https://twitter.com/jonny290/status/1314765001568129024

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
lmao

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
lol at pretending you have to not judge someone that doesn't vote to end this because... what, exactly?

god forbid some forums personality with opinions that are conventionally-unconventional single you out and make you feel marginally uncomfortable

absolutely judge anyone that doesn't vote for biden while considering themselves high and mighty about it, like congrats on your purity test that continues to shoot democrats in the foot while you continue to rail about democrats being ineffectual. jonny290's probably been workshopping barbs for hours anyway and can't wait for someone to contradict them

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




Sagebrush posted:

bernie would never tell anyone to hurt themselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-N0OsLJa2U

where’s bernard now?

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



burn-ee q. m. f. san-dars, who lit the skies aflame at the behest of the robot killaryghazi

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
Man i don't give a gently caress. I will never vote for Joe Biden. That's it. sorry i have no witty repartee to entertain you with

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


psiox posted:

absolutely judge anyone that doesn't vote for biden while considering themselves high and mighty about it

i dont feel this way. i cant morally justify convincing folks to vote for a rapist. i will vote for biden for the reasons given above. but it's not a good thing, by any means, and i struggle to describe it that way.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



political power grows through the barrel of a vote
- definitely mao zedong

ShadowHawk
Jun 25, 2000

CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER
Plurality voting is evil

It forces us to choose the lesser of two evils, or to refuse and render our vote ineffectual

But until we change that system, that is the choice we face


The ethics at play are a bit like the trolley problem, really. You could look at it consequentialist (vote for the lesser of two evils is less evil therefore good), or as a moral absolutist (voting for someone bad is bad)

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Jonny 290 posted:

Man i don't give a gently caress. I will never vote for Joe Biden. That's it. sorry i have no witty repartee to entertain you with

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




we have a mixed member proportional system and has created some interesting coalition governments, but it is mostly dominated by two parties.

Roosevelt
Jul 18, 2009

I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

im voting for biden only because i am compelled to destroy trump

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

ShadowHawk posted:

Plurality voting is evil

It forces us to choose the lesser of two evils, or to refuse and render our vote ineffectual

But until we change that system, that is the choice we face


The ethics at play are a bit like the trolley problem, really. You could look at it consequentialist (vote for the lesser of two evils is less evil therefore good), or as a moral absolutist (voting for someone bad is bad)

which guy is supposed to be the lesser evil?

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




the other rapist?

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
maine has ranked choice voting for prez this year. not that it matters for this election, but if you other states could get your poo poo together that would be great.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



fart simpson posted:

which guy is supposed to be the lesser evil?

his name is SS-18 Satan, hallowed be his name

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
oh right there was a rape accusation that was some degree of credible?? maybe???

anyway yeah i'm on board with doing nothing, the dril quote about the wise man is actually unironically correct and i would be forever violating my purity to take any side whatsoever in this universe of unknowables

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Shaggar posted:

maine has ranked choice voting for prez this year. not that it matters for this election, but if you other states could get your poo poo together that would be great.

we have a switch to ranked choice voting on the ballot but i do have to see which elections it covers,

still, mashin' that yes on 2

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



if a such thing as "unpersoning" a hashtag based social movement were ever possible then #metoo definitely got "unpersoned" as soon as grandpa joe won the primary and #resist winemoms had to deal with the fact that the dem candidate was a subject of #metoo

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psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
i too make sure that the gravitational center of my worldview is twitter, a company

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