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I said come in! posted:Babylon 5 is an extremely good show. Finally. Someone had to say it.
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Oct 9, 2020 23:46
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS taking over Something Awful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaUoRZLjl2k
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Oct 10, 2020 01:04
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I said come in! posted:Babylon 5 is an extremely good show. How can you say something so controversial yet so brave?
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Oct 10, 2020 01:16
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I said come in! posted:Babylon 5 is an extremely good show. It is one of my top 3 JMS shows too.
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Oct 10, 2020 06:57
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1. Babylon 5 2. Crusade 3. The first half of the first episode of Sense8 before I turned it off
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Oct 10, 2020 21:02
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Endless Trash posted:1. Babylon 5 I kind of liked Sense8, though it is a bit difficult to follow. I think the payoff at the end of season 1 is worth it though. I'd say thematically it reminds me of his Rising Stars graphic novel.
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Oct 10, 2020 21:09
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Also Jeremiah was great.
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Oct 10, 2020 21:19
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V-Men posted:I kind of liked Sense8, though it is a bit difficult to follow. I think the payoff at the end of season 1 is worth it though. I'd say thematically it reminds me of his Rising Stars graphic novel. Sense8 is fun nonsense, and worth watching until you feel like stopping, because if you're not totally on board then the end certainly won't change your mind.
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Oct 10, 2020 21:25
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I liked Sense8 
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Oct 10, 2020 21:30
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adhuin posted:It is one of my top 3 JMS shows too. This is not a particularly high bar to clear.
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Oct 10, 2020 21:57
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The Real Ghostbusters was good
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Oct 10, 2020 22:00
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Hard to narrow it down really, but I'd have to say that B5 is somewhere in my top 1 shows of all time.
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Oct 10, 2020 22:00
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Hard to narrow it down really, but I'd have to say that B5 is somewhere in my top 1 shows of all time. I genuinely do not understand how you can be a conservative and love B5.
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Oct 10, 2020 23:11
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Timby posted:I genuinely do not understand how you can be a conservative and love B5.
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Oct 10, 2020 23:54
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sebmojo posted:Sense8 is fun nonsense, and worth watching until you feel like stopping, because if you're not totally on board then the end certainly won't change your mind. I felt like stopping halfway through the first episode, so I did.
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Oct 11, 2020 00:10
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I really liked season 1 of Sense8 but didn't bother with season 2. Before I could start, I saw the news that the show was being canceled even though season 2 supposedly did not wrap up the storyline, so I just didn't bother to continue from there.
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Oct 11, 2020 00:24
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Timby posted:I genuinely do not understand how you can be a conservative and love B5. 20 years ago I could have told you.
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Oct 11, 2020 00:53
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Timby posted:I genuinely do not understand how you can be a conservative and love B5. Sheridan and Garibaldi are both fundamentally conservative, just of a cleaner kind that isn't happy to embrace fascism - the kind that many conservatives imagine themselves to be. The Interstellar Alliance is Space NATO created by humans and in general there is a lot of positive human exceptionalism; only humanity has many diverse religions, only humanity could have created the Babylon Project, and if Earth isn't the best yet it's still the fastest rising power in the galaxy where the Minbari are senescent, the Centauri decadent and the Narn barbarous.
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Oct 11, 2020 01:08
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Babylon 5 is a story about a bunch of inevitable wars that pit Good vs. Evil. That moral simplicity and righteous violence is probably pretty tempting to a conservative mindset.
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Oct 11, 2020 01:11
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Timby posted:I genuinely do not understand how you can be a conservative and love B5. No way, some of the most sympathetic characters, like Garibaldi, have very hardlined conservative views.
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Oct 11, 2020 01:11
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Timby posted:I genuinely do not understand how you can be a conservative and love B5. Then I can only speculate that you fundamentally misunderstand conservatism.
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Oct 11, 2020 01:52
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Then I can only speculate that you fundamentally misunderstand conservatism. So do all modern conservatives.
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Oct 11, 2020 02:01
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Endless Trash posted:Babylon 5 is a story about a bunch of inevitable wars that pit Good vs. Evil. That moral simplicity and righteous violence is probably pretty tempting to a conservative mindset. It’s more about chaos and order, strength and obedience, green or purple.
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Oct 11, 2020 03:51
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Green.
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Oct 11, 2020 04:05
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Purple.
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Oct 11, 2020 04:07
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Green!
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Oct 11, 2020 04:07
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So the Drazi were still doing their election ritual thing during the shadow war right? Do you think one side fought on the Babylon 5 side, or did both of them? It's really funny thinking of them fighting and fighting until they exited hyperspace in B5 space, and then they had to stop immediately cause of Green Leader and Purple Leader (Ivanova).
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Oct 11, 2020 04:13
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PURPLE!
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Oct 11, 2020 04:14
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Doctor Zero posted:It’s more about chaos and order, strength and obedience, green or purple.
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Oct 11, 2020 05:03
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It does feel really portrayed as that until the last moment.
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Oct 11, 2020 05:16
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I genuinely do not understand how you can be a purple and love B5.
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Oct 11, 2020 05:30
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:I genuinely do not understand how you can be a purple and love B5. But it coincides with my other interests of having one eye and flying, and I assume Jha'dur did some people-eating. Strange show.
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Oct 11, 2020 05:48
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Ayin posted:Yeah I was gonna say, if you thought Shadows vs Vorlons was Evil vs Good, you may have missed the point Yeah it was very sudden but it was Good vs. Evil still. The Good of “freedom for your species to pursue its own destiny” vs. the Evil of “ancient species using you like pawns”. It was pretty clear cut, no grey area there.
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Oct 11, 2020 06:46
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:I genuinely do not understand how you can be a purple and love B5. No way, some of the most sympathetic characters, like Juphar Trkider, have very hardlined purple views.
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Oct 11, 2020 07:12
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:I genuinely do not understand how you can be a purple and love B5. It's the royal color.
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Oct 11, 2020 07:15
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:I genuinely do not understand how you can be a purple and love B5. But in purple, I am stunning! Endless Trash posted:Yeah it was very sudden but it was Good vs. Evil still. The Good of “freedom for your species to pursue its own destiny” vs. the Evil of “ancient species using you like pawns”. It was pretty clear cut, no grey area there. Freedom is not inherently good, though. Freedom is the freedom to decide whether to be good or evil.
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Oct 11, 2020 09:52
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Jedit posted:Freedom is not inherently good, though. Freedom is the freedom to decide whether to be good or evil. Just because something can be abused, doesn't mean it is bad in itself.
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Oct 11, 2020 13:20
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Just because something can be abused, doesn't mean it is bad in itself. But not being inherently bad doesn't make something inherently good?
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Oct 11, 2020 13:26
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Just because something can be abused, doesn't mean it is bad in itself. "This isn't black vs white. X isn't black." "You mean X is white?"
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Oct 11, 2020 13:43
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Jedit posted:"This isn't black vs white. X isn't black." Right, it could be purple.
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