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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

bob dobbs is dead posted:

al gore was p legit about climate change and 2000 wasnt too late

too bad 2020 is, p much

lol america’s idea of going green is selling their oil to china to burn it and generate power to send to america in AA batteries

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Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
~~CAP AND TRADE~~

just the most absolute dumbest motherfuckers

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

lmao

kid, if the right have their way you'll have to get student loans to go to grade school

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

NoneMoreNegative posted:

lol from the waffleimages randomiser in the pics thread



Politics, politics never changes


also



"want stimulus call a 900 number"

what decade is that lady from?

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


bob dobbs is dead posted:

al gore was p legit about climate change and 2000 wasnt too late

too bad 2020 is, p much

2000 would have been *really* pushing it but maybe

1980 was when we had a realistic shot and it wouldn't have been too disruptive, relatively speaking

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
it's all hosed and the worst part is the primary people responsible will be long dead before it starts to really hurt us

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

PIZZA.BAT posted:

2000 would have been *really* pushing it but maybe

1980 was when we had a realistic shot and it wouldn't have been too disruptive, relatively speaking

"but some guy in the 70s said we'd all need spacesuits to go outside by now and it's fine so obviously it's all a hoax"

this is what boomers actually believe

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
honestly I’ve been developing a theory of why things have gotten to this point and a lot of it has to do with the liberal inclination to think that 50%+ of the country is stupid and unintelligent. i think for the most part, conservatives understand that they’re being lied to, but they simply don’t care because their politicians deliver them the things that matter - less taxes for the Ford and jetski dealers, sure, but mostly they own the libs and the people who talk down to them. they know the republicans are going to keep black people out of their neighborhood. there’s some % that are all-in on trump and have been brain poisoned by the internet, but it’s probably on aggregate the same % of people who are all-in on leftism in america

but the rest... it’s why bernie did well in fox townhalls or w/e, because he didn’t treat the audience as stupid. i don’t know how you get beyond the point we’re at now without people actually recognizing that you can’t write off half the country as unsalvageable idiot golems who need their coastal betters to show them the way

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
I'm sorry but they're the dumbest people imaginable and so dumb that I seriously struggle to come up with any other explanation than developmental disorders.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
lead

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003

I’d make eye contact with him and fart. I did it all the time for like two years. I didn’t even know his full name, just heard that his coworkers thought he was a nut for complaining about “the guy who would fart on me in the break room”

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
good, my mom deleted that awful post

extremely out of character for her so i'm glad she realized her mistake (or at least felt something resembling shame) instead of doubling down

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

the cause of, and solution to, all our problems

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




there is no planet B.

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Displeased Moo Cow posted:

there is no planet B.

great song from a great album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hCTJ76ctPY

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Salt Fish posted:

I'm sorry but they're the dumbest people imaginable and so dumb that I seriously struggle to come up with any other explanation than developmental disorders.

the trumpers and chuds, sure, but those are a minority of a minority.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


coastal lib called me dumb so I'm gonna vote against my own interests to spite them. that'll show em who's the real dumb person!

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

PokeJoe posted:

coastal lib called me dumb so I'm gonna vote against my own interests to spite them. that'll show em who's the real dumb person!

why do you think them voting for the dems would be in their interests, given that the dems also don't want to actually improve life for the poor/working class? c.f. ACA, et. al.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003

I’d make eye contact with him and fart. I did it all the time for like two years. I didn’t even know his full name, just heard that his coworkers thought he was a nut for complaining about “the guy who would fart on me in the break room”

kitten emergency posted:

why do you think them voting for the dems would be in their interests, given that the dems also don't want to actually improve life for the poor/working class? c.f. ACA, et. al.

ACA is the only reason my wife can get insurance coverage for her Crohn’s Disease meds at $28k a pop

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
in sane countries its like 5 bux hth

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

the aca makes a few things slightly better in the current lovely system, but ultimately it's still unaffordable to a huge swath of people as the cheapest plan is several hundred a month with a deductible that results in bankruptcy for the kind of people who need cheaper insurance through the exchange

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

kitten emergency posted:

honestly I’ve been developing a theory of why things have gotten to this point and a lot of it has to do with the liberal inclination to think that 50%+ of the country is stupid and unintelligent. i think for the most part, conservatives understand that they’re being lied to, but they simply don’t care because their politicians deliver them the things that matter - less taxes for the Ford and jetski dealers, sure, but mostly they own the libs and the people who talk down to them. they know the republicans are going to keep black people out of their neighborhood. there’s some % that are all-in on trump and have been brain poisoned by the internet, but it’s probably on aggregate the same % of people who are all-in on leftism in america

but the rest... it’s why bernie did well in fox townhalls or w/e, because he didn’t treat the audience as stupid. i don’t know how you get beyond the point we’re at now without people actually recognizing that you can’t write off half the country as unsalvageable idiot golems who need their coastal betters to show them the way
it goes back quite awhile, in part between the hoover FBI, CIA coups, assasinating leftist union leaders writ-large, academica cointel and pushing chicago cato economics, media control by moneyed interests and shutting down/consolidating those (see also Sinclair and Clear CHannel spending most of the 90s through late 00s buying up midwest/south/smaller-town/etc local rags, radio, and network and consolidating into national punditry op-eds advocating their interest on the cheap), and so on.

a strong divergent point is the Paul Volcker and Carter administration saying americans need to tighten their belts and consume less and start of the globalized neoliberal economic system with the end of bretton woods and from there dems becoming party of neoliberalism, which is also essentially the party of republicans so the only 'disagreements' are over useless, and for lack of better word, "culture war" elements where neither really cares but its useful to rally the rubes. this was fiercely retaliated with predictable backlash because saying "the american way of life needs to change" was completely not acceptable and never will be.

an example of this is reagan and others in the 70s got their start opposing transfering over control of the panama canal to panama, they absolutely hated that even though it was a 100% worthless and of zero-use for strategic reasons (it can't even be used for the navy because its too small and easily bombed anyways), and was long agreed upon decades ago. the only reason was "how dare they" and using that to rally up the rubes, and even when they were in power they didn't stop it because they didn't want to, it was just a rallying cry and they knew that. now we've gone into the realm of these idiot true-believers who have long forgotten (or never understood) that poo poo like that is just "rally the rubes" cry and actually believe that poo poo beacuse they were told to believe that poo poo when they were younger. or republicans using immigrants as stealing ur jobs even though they actually love immigrants for exploitable labor and to crush labor power, they never actually wanted to do anything about it because the powers that be love having exploited labor domestically. when reagan took power they essentially subsumed each other just using useless "culture war" elements to point fingers and go "no im lesser evil"; and no longer advocating for labor, bettering the prospects and health of the people. and predictably labor rights deteriorated, most people just tuned out leaving your overeducated academic lanyard libs and rube rallied evangelicals spittling on tv because again, no one is saying "hey i care about you"

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

ACA is the only reason my wife can get insurance coverage for her Crohn’s Disease meds at $28k a pop

meds in the US are inversely proportional to their actual utility

Need 2 liters of Caverject so you can bang your wife despite being 65 years old? That's free, or we'll pay you $100 for a testimonial

Uncontrollably making GBS threads out yoru rear end to the point you can't retain nutrients? One median annual US income per month, please.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
nah, theres a miracle cure for hep c that just costs 80 grand and poo poo like that. their underlying philosophy is just to add zeros when they feel like it basically

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


kitten emergency posted:

why do you think them voting for the dems would be in their interests, given that the dems also don't want to actually improve life for the poor/working class? c.f. ACA, et. al.

because it's flat wrong to say this? I'm from the flyovers and the ACA made my life and the lives of many of my friends better because we actually had health insurance when we graduated college unemployed.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

PokeJoe posted:

because it's flat wrong to say this? I'm from the flyovers and the ACA made my life and the lives of many of my friends better because we actually had health insurance when we graduated college unemployed.

only because you had parents who could afford insurance in the first place

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


what exactly are the Republicans offering that's any better? nothing at all? a tax cut for your boss?

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
lol at these last few pages of reflexive, internalized-fairness-doctrine responses to "we should improve society somewhat"

i see we've all learned to take motte & bailey arguments very seriously

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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gop: cops should be able to shoot anybody
dems: we've commissioned pink guns which precincts can acquire by donating $2000 to a girlboss finishing school. use those instead

Blinkz0rz
May 27, 2001

MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

Jonny 290 posted:

gop: cops should be able to shoot anybody
dems: we've commissioned pink guns which precincts can acquire by donating $2000 to a girlboss finishing school. use those instead

big brained "socialists" in this thread: gee both are bad so instead of doing anything constructive i'm going to complain on twitter

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

PokeJoe posted:

what exactly are the Republicans offering that's any better? nothing at all? a tax cut for your boss?

I think the original point was "they're offering a politician that doesn't talk down to them". I think also 2A stuff and curtailing abortion rights are two huge "culture" issues if boomers on facebook is anything to go off of.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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its hilarious how though we're all supposedly sexist fascist dirtbags, the leftists in this thread are always fine and the succ rear end center libs come in loving raging and getting the thread in closure territory every time

i do recognize the anger yall feel due to the realization that decorum politics is worthless and your party will not exist after 2022. We See You. and We'll Do Better (at dismantling the DNC apparatus)

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

I never imagined myself becoming an alcoholic fuckup so quickly but such is life.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Video Nasty posted:

I never imagined myself becoming an alcoholic fuckup so quickly but such is life.

about a half dozen of us are doing sober october and it seems to be helping. not tryna tell you what to do, but i was up to either a 12pack of PBR or a half of a fifth of Evan a night at the end of summer, and decided I had to break. already down 2 lbs in october and i am sleeping a lot better. first few days loving suck.

Blinkz0rz
May 27, 2001

MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

Jonny 290 posted:

its hilarious how though we're all supposedly sexist fascist dirtbags, the leftists in this thread are always fine and the succ rear end center libs come in loving raging and getting the thread in closure territory every time

i do recognize the anger yall feel due to the realization that decorum politics is worthless and your party will not exist after 2022. We See You. and We'll Do Better (at dismantling the DNC apparatus)

lmao you're not fine at all

you're a smug sideline sitter who doesn't recognize the massive privilege you're exercising by not having to deal with any personal consequences of your politics

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Jonny 290 posted:

its hilarious how though we're all supposedly sexist fascist dirtbags, the leftists in this thread are always fine and the succ rear end center libs come in loving raging and getting the thread in closure territory every time

i do recognize the anger yall feel due to the realization that decorum politics is worthless and your party will not exist after 2022. We See You. and We'll Do Better (at dismantling the DNC apparatus)
correct. electorialism is a purposeful dead-end anyways; vote for ____ or don't, it doesn't matter, don't tut-tut pearl clutch at people either way for some smug bluecheckmark moral superiority. if anyone actually cared they'd be phonebanking and canvassing for their guy which is 100000% more effective than just Posting Online, but they don't, they just want superiority.

the only actual path for improving material conditions is labor solidarity and organizing. voting or posting will never do anything -- it's all just shouting into the void.

Blinkz0rz
May 27, 2001

MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

Xaris posted:

the only actual path for improving material conditions is labor solidarity and organizing. voting or posting will never do anything -- it's all just shouting into the void.

100 percent correct

now stop shouting into the void and go organize

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Blinkz0rz posted:

lmao you're not fine at all

you're a smug sideline sitter who doesn't recognize the massive privilege you're exercising by not having to deal with any personal consequences of your politics

quoting for lmaos

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Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Blinkz0rz posted:

100 percent correct

now stop shouting into the void and go organize

deep irony in this post

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