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| The guy from Hades |
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37 | 7.76% |
| The priest from Faith |
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22 | 4.61% |
| A Corpse from Microsoft's Graveyard |
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27 | 5.66% |
| The Ouya |
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62 | 13.00% |
| Google Stadia (scariest option) |
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73 | 15.30% |
| Mr. Mosquito |
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31 | 6.50% |
| Did someone say Bowsette? BECAUSE I AM PRETTY SURE I HEARD SOMEONE SAY BOWSETTE |
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122 | 25.58% |
| Wario (nude) |
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62 | 13.00% |
| Wario (formal) |
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33 | 6.92% |
| Captain N |
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8 | 1.68% |
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Oh I was also gonna say the other huge phenomenon is Fall Guys, a game that everyone loves that has zero social functionality aside from team games which is unanimously everyone's least favorite part of the game
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:MOBAs are inherently social because it is a game that is impossible to play without a team. It's not like FF14 where you can play solo and do quests if you just avoid raids - if you play the game in any capacity, you're part of a team. MOBAS are strictly unlike every other multiplayer game in that there is a HUGE amount of social responsibility when you go into every single game. Call of Duty, you go in with whatever weapons you want, run around kill people. You play Dota, you HAVE to take into consideration what the rest of your team is doing. Fighting over who is going to what lane is HUGE. If someone on your team picks a hard carry, you CAN'T pick a second one, even if you want to, otherwise you're just going to lose. You can't just queue up solos so you can drop in your favorite zone and die immediately - every single game you get a team and you have to work with that team in a major capacity. So Counter Strike is social? I gave that example for a reason. Seems weird you ignored it. I don't think having a pre-made team counts as being social. And playing MOBAs or Cstrike with randoms is the most toxic thing in the world. RazzleDazzleHour posted:Oh I was also gonna say the other huge phenomenon is Fall Guys, a game that everyone loves that has zero social functionality aside from team games which is unanimously everyone's least favorite part of the game I thought about mentioning Fall Guys earlier but only as another example of a game that isn't what we're talking about. You play with other people but have nothing to do with them besides bumping into them. Which is good for that game's design, but doesn't mean other people don't want other things. That being how that game works best doesn't mean its a universal truth of all gaming designs or models which share little with Fall Guys. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Oct 11, 2020 22:33
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engaging with othe rplayers doesnt count except in the specific way im thinking of where you type into a lfg channel "lfg sm cath need tank and healz" once every 3 minutes for 4 hours until you get a group where no one says a single word until the trash pull just before the final boss where the tank dies and flames the healer and leaves and you have to stop playing because u cant sit around for another hour looking for a tank at 1am.
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Oct 11, 2020 22:38
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Stux posted:engaging with othe rplayers doesnt count except in the specific way im thinking of where you type into a lfg channel "lfg sm cath need tank and healz" once every 3 minutes for 4 hours until you get a group where no one says a single word until the trash pull just before the final boss where the tank dies and flames the healer and leaves and you have to stop playing because u cant sit around for another hour looking for a tank at 1am. stux, please stop. This is adding nothing, you're not even trying to have a conversation, this is just 
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Oct 11, 2020 22:42
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Zaphod42 posted:So Counter Strike is social? I gave that example for a reason. Seems weird you ignored it. Yeah I ignored it because it's a bad example that has nothing to do with what my post was about. In Counterstrike, you can buy whatever gun you want, you can go wherever you want, and that is basically the accepted model of play, just like it is in Call of Duty, or Team Fortress 2, or Killing Floor 2, or Battlefield, or Valorant, or Apex Legends, or Rainbow Six Siege, or Fortnite, or PUBG, or any other game where you're given teammates. It's not about having teammates. It's about having no choice but to base everything that you're doing on what your team is doing. You wanna go mid? Too bad, there's already a mid and he's picked his hero. You wanna pick Spectre? Someone's already picked AM, you can't pick Spectre. You wanna push T2 bottom? If no one else thinks it's safe and won't follow you, you can't go. I mean...you COULD do these things, but you will lose almost guaranteed and your entire team will report you because you are not working in accordance with the social agreement that everyone signs when you queue up for a MOBA game, an agreement that exists in no other genre of game. It's not about having team members, it's about sacrificing your freedom and not getting to play exactly how you want to play because the team comes first. Counter Strike does not operate like this in any capacity and is why I ignored it because it was a stupid example
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Oct 11, 2020 22:49
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back in the day we used to socialise in mmos [im sitting in a vent server with 59 other people and no one can talk other than officers for fear of getting gkicked while a 35 year old man yells extremely angrily over the last wipe. i am never referred to by name only by role. i dont not speak for 6 straight hours.]
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Oct 11, 2020 22:50
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Yeah I ignored it because it's a bad example that has nothing to do with what my post was about. In Counterstrike, you can buy whatever gun you want, you can go wherever you want, and that is basically the accepted model of play, just like it is in Call of Duty, or Team Fortress 2, or Killing Floor 2, or Battlefield, or Valorant, or Apex Legends, or Rainbow Six Siege, or Fortnite, or PUBG, or any other game where you're given teammates. It's not about having teammates. It's about having no choice but to base everything that you're doing on what your team is doing. You wanna go mid? Too bad, there's already a mid and he's picked his hero. You wanna pick Spectre? Someone's already picked AM, you can't pick Spectre. You wanna push T2 bottom? If no one else thinks it's safe and won't follow you, you can't go. I mean...you COULD do these things, but you will lose almost guaranteed and your entire team will report you because you are not working in accordance with the social agreement that everyone signs when you queue up for a MOBA game, an agreement that exists in no other genre of game. It's not about having team members, it's about sacrificing your freedom and not getting to play exactly how you want to play because the team comes first. Have you played competitive Cstrike? Because that's just flat wrong. At anything beyond a noob level Cstrike is exactly like MOBAs in that you have to work as a team, co-ordinate your movements, and constantly make callouts to your teammates about information so they have a chance. Playing Cstrike as a lone wolf will make you hated and will never allow you to get near a pro level. It actually has a great deal to do with your example. TF2 and Battlefield are nothing like Cstrike. Maybe you haven't played much Cstrike... Your example of "you wanna go mid? too bad, there's already a mid" exactly occurs in Cstrike. You wanted to go long A? Well, your team called B. Be a team player. If you don't do that your team will do exactly what you said a MOBA team will do, because you're not engaging the Cstrike social agreement. It sounds like you just don't know much about Cstrike hence thinking it isn't related. But I promise it is. RazzleDazzleHour posted:Counter Strike does not operate like this in any capacity and is why I ignored it because it was a stupid example This is, I am sorry, hilariously wrong, and you being so rude about it makes it kinda enjoyable. I dont' even mean at the eSport level. If you go play Cstrike with goons right now and you don't do callouts, they will hate you and tear you to pieces in chat or on voice. Just like your MOBAs. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Oct 11, 2020 22:51
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My friends' kids all used Fortnite as a place to hang out, or they did; kids are fickle enough that idk if they've moved on or to what. There's something to the idea that it's good to have enough downtime/pace the game slow enough that there's actually room to socialize, though I think a lot of 'let's make a social space!' people ignore the fact that the game still has to be good enough that you want to play it. "Why did WoW succeed where EQ failed?" was a popular genre of thinkpiece back when WoW mattered. My favorite was the guy who said it was because these games are all about running from place to place, WoW's superior ground textures won it the day. But the most plausible one was the guy who said it was humane enough to recommend to your friends who weren't already committed: he played EQ, he couldn't stop playing EQ, but he loved his friends and didn't want to ruin their lives. I had a friend who came into work, clearly on zero sleep, and explained that it was because of a EQ run gone bad. Around 2 am he died, and all the gear he had equipped--and had worked for for months--was left on his corpse, and he and his gang had to put on their inferior backup gear and go kill the monster that had killed them to retrieve it. He did, after several hours of a comedy of errors, but he didn't get a lot of work done that day.
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Oct 11, 2020 22:51
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Adjunct Professor Metis posted:Soma - a survival horror mystery game that has monsters BUT you can turn on safe mode so the monsters can't kill you. I haven't actually played this one but I want to. The entire reason they patched in safe mode is because the monsters are terribly designed and have the exact same problems as the monsters in Amnesia. The problem with that became obvious when I tried it on safe mode after beating it normally. It actually makes the game funny in a way that completely kills the immersion and turns it from a good game into a bad game. The monsters run up and stop ten feet away from you. Then they just stand there and stare at you. If you move, they follow you until they're ten feet away from you again. If you approach them, they back away from you. If they were going to take it to that extreme then they should have just deleted the monsters altogether.
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Oct 11, 2020 22:54
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Zaphod42 posted:Have you played competitive Cstrike? Oh sorry I didn't realize we were talking about video games at a competitive level, I thought were were talking about the average experience that a person would be having that would be relevant to the widest range of people, the kinds of people who wouldn't be using mics while they played, or who didn't play ranked matchmaking and just played normal queue
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Oct 11, 2020 22:56
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Oh sorry I didn't realize we were talking about video games at a competitive level, I thought were were talking about the average experience that a person would be having that would be relevant to the widest range of people, the kinds of people who wouldn't be using mics while they played, or who didn't play ranked matchmaking and just played normal queue I edited my post because I knew you would do this. I didn't mean eSport level, I meant if you aren't just a total noob. If you play Cstrike with the goons in this forum they will yell at you if you don't do what your team says, or don't talk and engage with team strategy and tactics. Cstrike matchmaking has a mode called "competitive" where you play fixed rounds and its very serious. But anybody can play "competitive" its a different ruleset from doing like, a respawning mode. Again, your ignorance of the game seems to be factoring into you blowing me off. If you don't know the game, ask questions don't be a jerk about it. Now you're being defensive. Dude, you were wrong and you called me stupid, please be better. E: I mean poo poo, with noob players of MOBAs you can also get away with not saying anything. Plenty of people play LOL at low rank and don't engage. But all your points apply to anybody who is trying to take the game serious; same with cstrike. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Oct 11, 2020 22:57
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zaphod u dont get freaking temp banned from playing counter strike if you just rush b every round in a matchmade game lol
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Oct 11, 2020 22:58
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...! posted:The entire reason they patched in safe mode is because the monsters are terribly designed and have the exact same problems as the monsters in Amnesia. This is why I generally bounce off survival horror games, especially the more they're like Amnesia. If I die enough to poo poo it isn't scary it just gets frustrating in a bad way. I never finished Alien Isolation because of this
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Oct 11, 2020 23:01
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insanely funny to go so deep on the "you clearly dont know the game" when the entire misunderstanding is you not knowing how mobas work
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Oct 11, 2020 23:01
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Stux I'm begging you to type whole words
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Oct 11, 2020 23:06
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teh
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Oct 11, 2020 23:10
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Zaphod42 posted:If you play Cstrike with the goons in this forum they will yell at you if you don't do what your team says, or don't talk and engage with team strategy and tactics. This is not the average user experience. 5-man premade stacks is not how the average person plays this game, and of loving course the four people who are playing with you would get mad if you didn't want to strategize with them. This does not mean the game has a social contract. You don't have to worry about getting reported for not going B, or for not throwing a molotov in the right choke. Again, in the average CS game, people aren't even talking, even in ranked mode. Let me ask you this, honest question: have you ever gotten mass reported and tempbanned for buying the wrong weapon? Legit question. If it's happened to you even once I'll concede everything. Someone looked at your weapon, said "why did you buy that" and your whole team reports you. People have been legitimately banned from MOBAs for not playing right. And the community response to this is "yes, of course, there is an acceptable way to play this video game and not following it is punishable." Counter Strike does not have anything remotely like this 
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Oct 11, 2020 23:11
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:This is not the average user experience. 5-man premade stacks is not how the average person plays this game, and of loving course the four people who are playing with you would get mad if you didn't want to strategize with them. This does not mean the game has a social contract. You don't have to worry about getting reported for not going B, or for not throwing a molotov in the right choke. Again, in the average CS game, people aren't even talking, even in ranked mode. Some people play MOBAs and don't voice chat. Some people ban, some people don't. My experience at least with CS was that people do actually talk in ranked mode. And the same thing, maybe people will ban you if you do something stupid every round, maybe they won't. I don't think you can definitively say that always happens in MOBAs and never happens in CS, its not nearly that stark a difference, they're very very similar. I haven't because I don't do stupid poo poo and haven't played cstrike in years because its too stressful (same with MOBAs, gently caress that life's too short) But I promise you 100% I have seen a group of people all say "ban X" because someone was running off by themselves and getting shot first every round, or buying the wrong weapon, yes. So please concede everything. I mean dude honestly, even without asking me, ask yourself. Based on what you know of gamers, and competitive games like Cstrike, do YOU think that's ever happened? I mean of course it has! I don't know if its ever gone as far as like, Valve saying "that's the game" the way Riot has apparently, but you have to concede the original point. "CStrike is nothing like MOBAs and is a dumb example!" is just... not fair.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:14
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Zaphod42 posted:I haven't because I don't do stupid poo poo and haven't played cstrike in years because its too stressful (same with MOBAs, gently caress that life's too short) But I promise you 100% I have seen a group of people all say "ban X" because someone was running off by themselves and getting shot first every round, or buying the wrong weapon, yes. So please concede everything. So does the person actually get banned though, this is important
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Oct 11, 2020 23:15
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Just started playing Forza Horizon 4 on gamepass. 1: Gamepass continues to be an unbelievable value. 2: Horizon is an awesome Fall game. The big addition for Horizon 4 was seasons. I'm in Fall right now and racing through a muddy forest in a light drizzle with all the fall colors everywhere is an absolute treat.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:15
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zaphod is unfortunately entirely unaware of how mobas work and will refuse to learn sorry
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Oct 11, 2020 23:16
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Whenever I have a deeply positive encounter with an Internet rando and they friend me, I accept, wait a few days, wait for them to be offline, and unfriend them
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Oct 11, 2020 23:16
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Please don't get upset over MOBA's, everyone. It's not worth it. There are no good MOBA's.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:16
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:So does the person actually get banned though, this is important So if a team of people reports someone and they don't get VAC banned that means its totally 100% different and a-ok? Dude, moving goalposts.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:16
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Zaphod42 posted:So if a team of people reports someone and they don't get VAC banned that means its totally 100% different and a-ok? RazzleDazzleHour posted:Let me ask you this, honest question: have you ever gotten mass reported and tempbanned for buying the wrong weapon? RazzleDazzleHour posted:So does the person actually get banned though, this is important
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Oct 11, 2020 23:17
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I said come in! posted:Please don't get upset over MOBA's, everyone. It's not worth it. There are no good MOBA's. This is only right because Valve managed to gently caress up Dota 2 real bad
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Oct 11, 2020 23:18
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Jay Rust posted:Whenever I have a deeply positive encounter with an Internet rando and they friend me, I accept, wait a few days, wait for them to be offline, and unfriend them I just leave it pending forever
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Oct 11, 2020 23:19
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:This is only right because Valve managed to gently caress up Dota 2 real bad I hate Valve so much
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Oct 11, 2020 23:19
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Zaphod42 posted:So if a team of people reports someone and they don't get VAC banned that means its totally 100% different and a-ok? its not goalposts, you queue up for a game of lol and you get assigned a role. if you do not play that role you will literally be banned from playing. it doesnt matter how much you hate that role, unless someone will swap you must play it to t he best of your ability or face a punishment. i can go play cs ranked all day long and do nothing but hold long a with an awp and no matter how much anyone hates it i will not get punished for doing so. i do not even get assigned a role to play that i have to stick to. as long as im not afking or literally trying to kill/blind etc team mates i can play however i want with no repercussions. t his is fundamentally different to how mobas work lol
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Oct 11, 2020 23:20
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Stux posted:zaphod is unfortunately entirely unaware of how mobas work and will refuse to learn sorry that’s his posting style
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Oct 11, 2020 23:20
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I've dug my heels in over arguments I think I am way less right about than this one, which I feel like I am very considerably right
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Oct 11, 2020 23:22
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Stux posted:its not goalposts, you queue up for a game of lol and you get assigned a role. if you do not play that role you will literally be banned from playing. it doesnt matter how much you hate that role, unless someone will swap you must play it to t he best of your ability or face a punishment. i can go play cs ranked all day long and do nothing but hold long a with an awp and no matter how much anyone hates it i will not get punished for doing so. i do not even get assigned a role to play that i have to stick to. as long as im not afking or literally trying to kill/blind etc team mates i can play however i want with no repercussions. t his is fundamentally different to how mobas work lol This is like arguing that two RPGs have absolutely nothing in common because one of them has a job system. Yes, that IS a thing that a moba has that Cstrike doesn't have. I didn't say they were literally the exact same game. I said both require communicating with your team. You can and will be attacked by your teammates for not communicating. I never said anything about roles. You're adding that now and changing what the argument was about because its easier for you to dismiss me. Stop arguing in obvious bad faith. What is your goal here stux? Just being really rude for no real reason.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:22
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Zaphod42 posted:You can and will be attacked by your teammates for not communicating. I never said anything about roles. You're adding that now and changing what the argument was about because its easier for you to dismiss me. Stop arguing in obvious bad faith. What is your goal here stux? Just being really rude for no real reason. WILL YOU BE BANNED BY THE DEVELOPERS FOR NOT PLAYING THEIR GAME IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE META YES OR NO
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Oct 11, 2020 23:25
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:WILL YOU BE BANNED BY THE DEVELOPERS FOR NOT PLAYING THEIR GAME IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE META YES OR NO I never said you would. Dude, stop.
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Zaphod42 posted:This is like arguing that two RPGs have absolutely nothing in common because one of them has a job system. you quoted their post where they were explaining a fundamental difference in how the two games work and said nuhuh without actually reading what they had said and while clearly having no knowledge of what you were talking about and then proceeded to be extremely smug and rude about it. whos moving the goalposts now lol
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Oct 11, 2020 23:25
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This conversation sucks and I don't think you're going to reconcile your differences so unless you have something genuinely interesting, new or compelling to say I'd like to encourage you to move on.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:28
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no (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 11, 2020 23:29
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zaphod should apologise to rdh
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I’m gonna interrupt...whatever this is...to say that Hades fucks so hard and I can’t imagine it not landing my GOTY this year. Is there gonna be a GOTY thread? e: oh I guess I didn’t interrupt anything lmao wuggles fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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wuggles posted:Is there gonna be a GOTY thread? There already is one!
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