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Where are people getting windows server sysadmin jobs? am i missing something? small companies only? I've had to basically not only write code, but also write all the infrastructure bullshit to deploy it like k8s, cloudformation, terraform, docker registries, etc. Lately doing more .NET [but that's all .NET Core and being deployed on Linux, though unrelated], this seems to largely be the case for most big shops where the SDEs are expected to devops/admin themselves - I don't see many separate sysadmin roles, they're often some kind of SRE/infrastructure-platform-cloud equivalent. Similar for DBA, I've had to write every query myself, deal with migrations myself, optimise tables/queries/indexes myself, where the hell is a DBA to help out? There's no qa teams either, i'm expected to also have unit/e2e tests/puppeteer/whatever + "own my product" for oncall rotations - I don't see "engineer in test" type roles because of this presumably. Impotence fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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Biowarfare posted:Where are people getting windows server sysadmin jobs? am i missing something? small companies only? There are a lot of legacy companies who aren't going to go full-bore on cloud for a while and have a lot of on-prem poo poo running. Plus the smaller companies will never do poo poo like Kubernetes. You'll have 2-3 VMware hosts, an ERP system, and other poo poo. You won't have enough sysadmin stuff to do so you'll end up also ordering office supplies or some other goofy poo poo. If they think you're smart you can get into business processes and automation.
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Oct 12, 2020 12:51
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I work at a manufacturing company and we have all that. On prem ERP which is growing extremely fast, 5 ESX hosts, call manager, on site call center, etc.
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Oct 12, 2020 13:42
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Anyone know a good way to log what's using memory on a Windows server? Like if a server hit 100% memory utilisation last Tuesday, I could check the logs and see that 80% of the RAM was taken up by MySQL or whatever. I know there are solutions like NewRelic which are good if you want to monitor a bunch of servers, but this user only runs a single server and doesn't want to pay money. I was looking at Windows Performance Monitor but I don't think there's a way to make it log RAM usage by process.
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Oct 12, 2020 14:03
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Gort posted:Anyone know a good way to log what's using memory on a Windows server? Like if a server hit 100% memory utilisation last Tuesday, I could check the logs and see that 80% of the RAM was taken up by MySQL or whatever. Dumb question, isn't there any WMI performance counters for mySQL, like any other modern SGBD running on Windows ? If there is some, all you need is just a small script to have the RAM usage of your instance logged somewhere. Edit : Else, you can batch something around Get-Process in PowerShell Picardy Beet fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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Oct 12, 2020 14:25
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PerfMon? Maybe not the most powerful, but it's right there.
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Oct 12, 2020 15:32
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Biowarfare posted:Where are people getting windows server sysadmin jobs? Government will still have windows sysadmins for decades to come.
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Oct 12, 2020 15:52
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Sheep posted:Government will still have windows sysadmins for decades to come. 
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Oct 12, 2020 16:07
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Biowarfare posted:Where are people getting windows server sysadmin jobs? am i missing something? small companies only? My LinkedIn is a sea of Windows admin jobs while I’m trying to get out of it. There are plenty of companies that don’t have on house dev teams, don’t produce an app and aren’t 100% cloud native. Your job is going to be mostly janitoring some creaky lob apps, o365, and whatever other saas platforms the business remembers to tell you about. If you’re lucky you get to build some automations and integrations.
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Oct 12, 2020 16:19
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There's such a huge sea of companies out there that have absolutely no need for something like kubernetes, but will be running Microsoft things until the heat-death of the universe. Hell, we're still at the stage where "have a VPN, have enough bandwidth" is worthy of a story in Ars. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/10/future-of-collaboration-01/
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Oct 12, 2020 16:23
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Collateral Damage posted:PerfMon? Maybe not the most powerful, but it's right there. I didn't see a way to make PerfMon log what processes were using how much RAM at a given time.
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Oct 12, 2020 16:33
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Gort posted:I didn't see a way to make PerfMon log what processes were using how much RAM at a given time. You create a collector set, pick the items you want to monitor, then the location to save to disk. If you have azure you can install an azure monitor agent and then use log analytics.
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Oct 12, 2020 16:38
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The Fool posted:
This... And I work at one. My industry adopts technology at a fairly glacial pace. Our main line of business app is written entirely .NET C# and relies on MS SQL, AD, and Remote Desktop. (though it will run as a local install as well.). The company that makes it does provide their own "cloud" hosted option but it costs approx. 3-4x of running your own server on-site with no discounts for size. Every bit of software for our industry is like this; with the biggest name in the business not even having a cloud option yet. Also many of our vendors are still using lovely local apps for quoting/ordering purposes. (and in some cases you still need to fax the order in!). The closest to the "cloud" we have gotten thus far is using Google Apps/GSuite/G-whateverthefucktheyarecallednow. And mostly for email only.
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Oct 12, 2020 16:39
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I don't see Windows Admins going away, they'll just more commonly have some sort of Azure education on top of doing what ever it is they do.
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Oct 12, 2020 16:40
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lmao I'm trying to find an admin of any kind linux or windows job in just my own city and this poo poo is desolate.
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Oct 12, 2020 16:41
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The Fool posted:You create a collector set, pick the items you want to monitor, then the location to save to disk. Sure, but there doesn't seem to be an option in the collector set to select "RAM usage by process" or whatever, maybe I'm just terrible at this program. No Azure here, it's just a random Windows server in a room somewhere
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Oct 12, 2020 17:02
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Gort posted:Sure, but there doesn't seem to be an option in the collector set to select "RAM usage by process" or whatever, maybe I'm just terrible at this program. I mean, if you want to go free and are willing to deal with some pain, Nagios can do this. https://exchange.nagios.org/directory/Plugins/System-Metrics/Memory/Windows-Process-Memory-Monitoring/details
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Oct 12, 2020 17:07
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Gort posted:Sure, but there doesn't seem to be an option in the collector set to select "RAM usage by process" or whatever, maybe I'm just terrible at this program. iirc, you can do private bytes/process instance and I think it lets you pick the instance that you monitor e: 
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Oct 12, 2020 17:18
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"Private bytes, they're waaaaatching you..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsntlJZ9h1U
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Oct 12, 2020 17:25
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My place is pretty much the same. We're pretty much 100% on premises. Mainly Windows servers for whatever software all the different services need, I do a bit with Linux and docker for setting up apps, mainly stuff used by the IT team. I'm technically supposed to just be a network engineer but there's nobody else who really knows that stuff. I feel kind of hosed at this point. Zero experience with AWS/Azure so no idea how I'm going to move jobs.
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Oct 12, 2020 17:35
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uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:My place is pretty much the same. We're pretty much 100% on premises. Mainly Windows servers for whatever software all the different services need, I do a bit with Linux and docker for setting up apps, mainly stuff used by the IT team. I'm technically supposed to just be a network engineer but there's nobody else who really knows that stuff. Start using bits and pieces of Azure or M365. It's not an all or nothing thing. Azure and M365 offer solutions to problems that have no real equivalent to on-prem stuff.
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Oct 12, 2020 17:37
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Also, Azure and AWS both have very good trial programs.
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Oct 12, 2020 17:39
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stevewm posted:Our main line of business app is written entirely .NET C# and relies on MS SQL, AD, and Remote Desktop. (though it will run as a local install as well.). Just at like a meta "overall progress of humankind" level it really annoys me that this ended up becoming the standard technology deployment, at least in the USA.
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Oct 12, 2020 17:48
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Am I crazy because I want a Windows Server SysAdmin job? Currently a senior Helpdesk dingus at an MSP, so I do a couple hours of this work each day for a couple dozen different organizations that are my company's clients.
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Internet Explorer posted:Start using bits and pieces of Azure or M365. It's not an all or nothing thing. Azure and M365 offer solutions to problems that have no real equivalent to on-prem stuff. It's not my choice. My bosses are anti-cloud for everything. A DC on Azure would've been a massive help for us during the rona but they won't have any of it. We've recently been offered a centrally and fully funded, fully licensed, HA Prisma deployment on GCP for a minimum of 5 years. It would be a massive bonus for us and save over £100k of the publics' money by using it, but my boss decided to implement it in the most worthless and pointless way possible and he's still going to waste that money. Our current firewall setup is PA Pair -> DMZ -> old rear end Cisco 5525Xs that I can't even put a loving object on as a wildcarded hostname, let alone a loving FQDN. They won't even pay licensing for it so we can update it. This is the same guy who gave his domain admin password to the third party, who, after getting called out on it by the security engineer said he'd changed his password, but didn't, then when the third party kept using it and he called them to up to ask about it (he got called out again 3 days later) they lied and said nobody there had used it. Despite us having all the access logs and configuration changes on firewalls they made without telling anyone. He just accepted it. uhhhhahhhhohahhh fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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Interesting, thanks for the insights. We have some k8s running on onprem baremetal in addition to every cloud provider; it's simultaneously interesting and bizarre to watch as some of the oldschool programmers are having to deal with things like "why did my application reboot? please start an incident meeting we need to figure out how to prevent this" all shocked when they get the answer of "it will scale down and up when it feels like it or when it's lunchtime, set your pod affinity and replicas properly, and your application has to be immutable and write elsewhere". Internet Explorer posted:There's such a huge sea of companies out there that have absolutely no need for something like kubernetes, but will be running Microsoft things until the heat-death of the universe. Hell, we're still at the stage where "have a VPN, have enough bandwidth" is worthy of a story in Ars. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/10/future-of-collaboration-01/ I fuckin love not needing a VPN and just picking a client certificate in Firefox/plugging in a hardware key 12 rats tied together posted:Just at like a meta "overall progress of humankind" level it really annoys me that this ended up becoming the standard technology deployment, at least in the USA. Would you prefer Java 8
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Otis Reddit posted:Am I crazy because I want a Windows Server SysAdmin job? Currently a senior Helpdesk dingus at an MSP, so I do a couple hours of this work each day for a couple dozen different organizations that are my company's clients. Not at all! It's still a very active field and is the most logical jump from "senior helpdesk dingus." uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:It's not my choice. My bosses are anti-cloud for everything. A DC on Azure would've been a massive help for us during the rona but they won't have any of it. That's really lovely. I have been at places where I felt similarly trapped. If you can't get those above you to change their minds, all you can do is find a new job. Easier said that done, I know, especially in the middle of a pandemic. But if you feel like you're getting left behind, jump ship. It'll be good for your mental health. In the meantime, it might not be a bad idea to start exposing yourself to new stuff by watching things like Microsoft Mechanics.
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Oct 12, 2020 18:03
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GreenNight posted:I work at a manufacturing company and we have all that. On prem ERP which is growing extremely fast, 5 ESX hosts, call manager, on site call center, etc. If I may comment, I am a fan of on-prem ERP systems or at the least an on-prem failover system in case a construction crew cuts a fiber line or something like that. My previous job migrated to a cloud based solution for SAP hosted in Germany and manufacturing literally shut down if the cord got cut for whatever reason. I'd also say in a non-manufacturing environment then you can get away with a 100% cloud based solution. But when you have physical widgets being made then you should have something that works on premise.
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There are a TON of windows admin jobs here that barely seem to need any cloud work. I started applying to some when I had applied to all the network jobs. After I got this job I turned down a couple of them even though I have basically no experience lol. I’m a little worried about the future for me though, I would like to find a way to get on a devops type trajectory since that seems like the future, but I’m not sure how to do that right now as a Cisco network guy.
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Oct 12, 2020 21:42
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I've seen some openings for cloud networks admins, that would probably be the stepping stone. I'm thinking of applying for standard SysAdmin roles because to be frank, I'm not getting actual SysAdmin level experience where I am, and the market is bad enough right now that I'm not getting any traction on cloud-focused positions. Of course it doesn't help that at this point I'm only looking at remote positions, which is even smaller. 22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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Oct 12, 2020 21:47
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Vargatron posted:If I may comment, I am a fan of on-prem ERP systems or at the least an on-prem failover system in case a construction crew cuts a fiber line or something like that. My previous job migrated to a cloud based solution for SAP hosted in Germany and manufacturing literally shut down if the cord got cut for whatever reason. on premises Premise generally means something entirely different. The words are related and verrrry technically according to the etymology you could use premise as you have here, but in modern English it's not used as such (as in, the dictionary definition of the singular word does not include "tracts of land or buildings", see https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/premise). etymonline.com posted:premise (n.)
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Biowarfare posted:Where are people getting windows server sysadmin jobs? am i missing something? small companies only? Every MSP? Sure working for an MSP sucks since most of them are jack-of-all-trades with no specialist positions, but the vast majority of work I do for mine is with on-premises virtual or physical Windows servers.
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Oct 12, 2020 21:56
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Biowarfare posted:Would you prefer Java 8 I had to think about this for a minute but yes 100%, as long as it ran off of something posix adjacent.
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Cool, gave up my job to take on a 6 month contract with another company. After clearing my background check, drug screen etc, and having completed my 2 week notice at my current job I'm told by the contractor that there's an administrative hold up. Meanwhile the new employer is still telling me I'm on for orientation next Monday. Really awesome potentially being jobless due to no fault of my own.
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Oct 13, 2020 02:04
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Any hints for someone trying to break into the data analyst role? I have got my DA-100 cert, and im trying to spend more time building reports, but I have a limited dataset to work with and still have it technically count as work related. Im probably going to start working towards more azure certs, because my current job has the potential to morph into some MSP/DA hybrid and that would help, but i really just want out of the company I work for because there are core, fundamental problems that shifting role probably wont help with.
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Oct 13, 2020 02:21
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I have to hire a minimum wage helpdesk person and I feel real bad about it It's not even full time with benefits or anything But at least I won't make him rake rocks
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Oct 13, 2020 03:14
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Defenestrategy posted:Can you hold your company hostage for information? You can and you absolutely should. If your ex-employer is so terrible that any one employee has a bus factor that huge, AND they are dumb enough to fire you in such a manner, they can eat all the dicks and you should be getting gently caress you boat money.
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ratbert90 posted:You can and you absolutely should. If your ex-employer is so terrible that any one employee has a bus factor that huge, AND they are dumb enough to fire you in such a manner, they can eat all the dicks and you should be getting gently caress you boat money. Update, they finally got to turning off my access around end of business today. Also, I am not holding anything hostage. Every bit of my work is sitting in company owned spaces that they have the full ability to continue to use at their own leisure.
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CloFan posted:I have to hire a minimum wage helpdesk person and I feel real bad about it Seems like a bad idea, hiring someone who will inevitably gain unfettered access to systems/people* for minimum wage. Seems like a lot of shenanigan's can come from that.
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Sickening posted:Update, they finally got to turning off my access around end of business today. Also, I am not holding anything hostage. Every bit of my work is sitting in company owned spaces that they have the full ability to continue to use at their own leisure. You can and should hold your knowledge of how to use and where those scripts are hostage.
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