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Who is the #1 Overall Pick This poll is closed. |
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| Anthony Edwards |
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17 | 26.98% |
| Cole Anthony |
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3 | 4.76% |
| James Wiseman |
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12 | 19.05% |
| LaMelo Ball |
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19 | 30.16% |
| Other |
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12 | 19.05% |
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https://www.thestepien.com/2020/10/12/keon-johnson-predicting-improvement/
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Oct 12, 2020 18:04
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I've started to watch some 2021 stuff and Keon is so much fun. Would probably take him first this year without even thinking twice.
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Oct 12, 2020 18:21
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MourningView posted:I've started to watch some 2021 stuff and Keon is so much fun. Would probably take him first this year without even thinking twice. I wonder how many picks deep in 2021 you'd have to go before going "You know I'd take (Ball, Edwards, Hayes) over them
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Oct 12, 2020 20:12
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Dexo posted:I wonder how many picks deep in 2021 you'd have to go before going "You know I'd take (Ball, Edwards, Hayes) over them That's a really good question. Without thinking too much about it I'd put them around 7 or 8-12. So many 6'4 6'5 pgs coming out in the next few years. A couple obvious hair theory cases
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Oct 12, 2020 20:57
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Dexo posted:I wonder how many picks deep in 2021 you'd have to go before going "You know I'd take (Ball, Edwards, Hayes) over them Just getting started but for me there are like 4 guys (Cade, BJ Boston, Keon, and Jalen Johnson, and the gap with Cade and BJ Boston especially is massive) where it's not even a question and then probably like 6-8 more where I'd have to think really hard about it. And that's with Killian, with Edwards the number is way higher. I'm sure that will change once they actually play games next year, but it looks like a really good class MourningView fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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Oct 12, 2020 21:22
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Anyone have any good draft podcasts they’d recommend? I listen to Sam Vecenie’s on occasion, but not anything else draft specific.
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Oct 12, 2020 21:53
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Boonoo posted:Anyone have any good draft podcasts they’d recommend? Prep2Pro is very good
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Oct 12, 2020 22:36
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MourningView posted:Prep2Pro is very good oh my god, i just started listening to this and the host keeps saying "you know" super fast and several times a sentence. luckily many years of listening to basketball podcasters with awful vocal ticks has trained me for this moment
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Oct 12, 2020 23:16
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MourningView posted:Prep2Pro is very good Thanks! I’ll give this a listen.
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Oct 12, 2020 23:42
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Katana_Warrior posted:oh my god, i just started listening to this and the host keeps saying "you know" super fast and several times a sentence. luckily many years of listening to basketball podcasters with awful vocal ticks has trained me for this moment Yeah both of them have kind of annoying and very similar voices which can be rough at first, but they both work hard at it (they're both like 20 years old lol) and the content is good. They also get really good guests, PD Web is basically the unofficial third hosts
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Oct 13, 2020 00:25
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Katana_Warrior posted:oh my god, i just started listening to this and the host keeps saying "you know" super fast and several times a sentence. luckily many years of listening to basketball podcasters with awful vocal ticks has trained me for this moment This is another area where wrestling fans have an advantage by being trained by Dave Meltzer to ignore verbal ticks and sound quality issues, in fact I find such things to be inherently amusing now.
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Oct 13, 2020 00:28
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Rick posted:This is another area where wrestling fans have an advantage by being trained by Dave Meltzer to ignore verbal ticks and sound quality issues, in fact I find such things to be inherently amusing now. roaming into non-wrestling podcast land is weird because it's like, people quickly and concisely lay out their points and move on to new points in a timely fashion?
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Oct 13, 2020 00:36
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Rick posted:This is another area where wrestling fans have an advantage by being trained by Dave Meltzer to ignore verbal ticks and sound quality issues, in fact I find such things to be inherently amusing now. the shutdown fullcast has trained me to accept basically anything better than a tin can and a string as acceptable audio quality
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Oct 13, 2020 02:32
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Kibner posted:I don't remember if I posted this before, but this guy has done an extensive write up on Killian Hayes and his other stuff may be worth reading, too: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=24373441&fan_landing=true I love this guy's writing. Did he happen to do a writeup of Ja before last year's draft?
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Oct 13, 2020 15:27
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https://www.patreon.com/posts/42706679 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dX7nYz9f-y_5Fve9YBheQACeQ0FmvV3wkoUkZ6nkwyI/edit
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Oct 13, 2020 16:35
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Dexo posted:https://www.patreon.com/posts/42706679 Holy poo poo is that Breanna Stewart photo real
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Oct 13, 2020 16:47
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NickRoweFillea posted:I love this guy's writing. Did he happen to do a writeup of Ja before last year's draft? He only started doing stuff this year.
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Oct 13, 2020 17:01
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morestuff posted:Holy poo poo is that Breanna Stewart photo real no  still very lanky
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Oct 13, 2020 17:05
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Dexo posted:https://www.patreon.com/posts/42706679 gently caress it, i'm all in on the ant man now defense is for losers anyways
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Oct 13, 2020 21:39
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some draft thoughts i got rumblin around in my ole headbrain -cassius winston is the hot pick for the lakers but i actually like daniel oturu for them at 26th; they might be able to buy a second round pick and take nico mannion around for m a x i m u m v a l u e (and because lakers would likely be looking to buy second rounders anyways to fill out the rest of their roster for cheap) -assuming the kings trade buddy, cole anthony might make a lot of sense for their team as a guy they can slot right in at the 2 and run the offense when de'aaron fox is on the bench -there is zero chance saddiq bey doesn't get taken by a team in the late teens and then immediately flipped for a vet
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Oct 14, 2020 15:57
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Daniel Oturu is going to be completely unplayable on defense and the last thing that team needs is another center. Also Winston is better than Mannion at basically everything except being young (and tbh he was better than Mannion back when he was a freshman too) which doesn't matter if you're the Lakers and are in win now mode. They need guys who are for sure knock down shooters above all else and that's definitely not Nico.
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Oct 14, 2020 16:23
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https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1316395190819655680
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Oct 14, 2020 16:26
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This is excellent, because the smart-seeming lads from the podcast MorningView linked are very low on him for a lot of the mid-high lottery teams. Either way it goes, someone will end up looking like a goofball
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Oct 14, 2020 16:28
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What is even the best case scenario for Toppin? Montrez Harrell with a 3 point shot?
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Oct 14, 2020 16:29
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Paul Zuvella posted:What is even the best case scenario for Toppin? Montrez Harrell with a 3 point shot? Amar'e 2.0!!
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Oct 14, 2020 16:33
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morestuff posted:Amar'e 2.0!! Isn't he like 6'8"?
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Oct 14, 2020 16:35
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Paul Zuvella posted:What is even the best case scenario for Toppin? Montrez Harrell with a 3 point shot? Thick and Long Brandon Clarke with a better shot, but who can only play against slow PFs or thin centers
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Oct 14, 2020 16:36
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Katana_Warrior posted:Thick and Long Brandon Clarke with a better shot, but who can only play against slow PFs or thin centers That's kind of why I err'd towards Trez. I dont think he can play the 4 in the NBA. Dude just seems like a 5 to me because his lack of horizontal mobility.
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Oct 14, 2020 16:38
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Paul Zuvella posted:Isn't he like 6'8"? Listed at 6'9". Amar'e was listed at 6'10" and measured 6'8.25" at the combine
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Oct 14, 2020 16:41
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Paul Zuvella posted:That's kind of why I err'd towards Trez. I dont think he can play the 4 in the NBA. Dude just seems like a 5 to me because his lack of horizontal mobility. I think he has enough size and jumping ability to do some decent enough rim protection, but hes really top heavy in a way that so many true 5s can just bully him. it's tough to find a spot for a guy who can't switch or defend his own position
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Oct 14, 2020 16:44
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morestuff posted:Listed at 6'9". Amar'e was listed at 6'10" and measured 6'8.25" at the combine Obviously we have no actual proof if Amar'e grew or not, but he was a HS to NBA dude. He probably was closer to 6'11" in shoes during his player career.
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Oct 14, 2020 16:46
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I think cleveland should draft Obi regardless Let's watch the SexLand/Cedi/Obi/Love lineup try to defend a single pick and roll
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Oct 14, 2020 16:46
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Paul Zuvella posted:What is even the best case scenario for Toppin? Montrez Harrell with a 3 point shot? John Collins with a little playmaking is kind of what I've been going with as the upside
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Oct 14, 2020 16:55
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Katana_Warrior posted:I think cleveland should draft Obi regardless Toppin/Love is an elite name combination duo, too.
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Oct 14, 2020 17:20
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Veryslightlymad posted:Toppin/Love is an elite name combination duo, too. oh hell yeah!
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Oct 14, 2020 17:24
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Makes me miss the halcyon days of Rubio Gay Love Sessions
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Oct 14, 2020 17:43
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The thing that bothers me about Toppin is that from day one he's a burden on your center and wings to help on his man. The Mavericks have found rim running bigs who were a shrug on defense for about an NBA version of dollar fifty. To be worth more than them, he needs to be an incredible three point shooter and a 60% fg guy. He seems like a part time player on a good team, which sucks at #2 or #3 in the draffffffff Otherwise you're building your roster around the defensive limitations of your 4 man, which seems like a recipe for mediocrity
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Oct 14, 2020 20:28
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Dejan Bimble posted:The thing that bothers me about Toppin is that from day one he's a burden on your center and wings to help on his man. The Mavericks have found rim running bigs who were a shrug on defense for about an NBA version of dollar fifty. To be worth more than them, he needs to be an incredible three point shooter and a 60% fg guy. He seems like a part time player on a good team, which sucks at #2 or #3 in the draffffffff most 4s in the nba would've been 3s 15 years ago and as such only a few of them can really bang down in the low post and make you pay for it. all toppin has to do on defense to not be a catastrophic negative is to stay in front of his man, put a hand up if he shoots, and funnel him towards the center; anything past that is gravy in a sane draft with actual prospects he'd probably be going late lottery-early 20s but it's pretty loving bad out here when anthony edwards: god king emperor of caveats is probably the best pick in the draft
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Oct 14, 2020 21:07
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Declan MacManus posted:most 4s in the nba would've been 3s 15 years ago and as such only a few of them can really bang down in the low post and make you pay for it. all toppin has to do on defense to not be a catastrophic negative is to stay in front of his man, put a hand up if he shoots, and funnel him towards the center; anything past that is gravy There seems to be a hidden risk in taking sure thing obvious guys like Toppin, sometimes they aren't sure things and you might as well have taken a swing at whichever of the wings in this draft you like the measurements of, in hopes of getting the next Danny Granger, Pau George, Kawhi, etc. That's my general thought about the bums at the top of this draft
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Oct 14, 2020 21:25
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the super brain genius pick is to take devin vassell, poku, or kira lewis jr. and maybe grab grant riller in the second
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Oct 15, 2020 02:24
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